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mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
November 29 2011 21:43 GMT
#2241
On November 30 2011 04:15 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 01:11 SeaSwift wrote:
On November 30 2011 01:07 NotSorry wrote:
What a prime BW player making a switch and beating GSL Champs within a short time frame, who would have thunk it...


Thanks for adding that the thread. No possible shitstorm can possibly arise from this statement.

It was 1 GSL Champion, singular. Just to make that clear.

who would be surprised by it? those who don't really know about bw of course. do we really need to pander to the ignorant?

eventually more bw pros will switch over and these people will have to learn the truth. if they thought big but old names from bw didn't do well and thus bw is not all that special, they were wrong. and the sooner they correct that wrong impression the better.

modern bw competition is just insane, even relative to the old days. appreciate this level of skill seems to be the only way going forward.

Do you HONESTLY think that not one single person who didn't play BW in current sc2 practices the same amount? Do you also think that not one of those people who practices a ton and has a great mindset also has the mechanics that they could have succeeded in BW? Will top BW players have an advantage over some? Obviously due to mechanics and their already regimented training. Does that guarantee that every top player will be a top player of BW? I'll let your delusional self decide that. But its already decided amongst people who love BW and dont enjoy sc2 so yah... perhaps you should go back to watching BW while its still around.

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jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
November 29 2011 22:04 GMT
#2242
wow forgg...
soo goood!
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
November 29 2011 23:04 GMT
#2243
Shit. Today made me sad.

Except for FORGG <3
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
November 30 2011 00:10 GMT
#2244
damn it NADA!
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Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
November 30 2011 00:40 GMT
#2245
Polt had a sizable build order advantage against ForGG in the second game, and ForGG still outproduced Polt by a good amount. I'm not one of those who hypes former BW pros to the high heavens, but the series wasn't close by any measure. The mechanical difference between the two players was glaringly obvious.

ForGG's mechanics...just too good.
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
November 30 2011 00:58 GMT
#2246
On November 30 2011 09:40 Qaatar wrote:
Polt had a sizable build order advantage against ForGG in the second game, and ForGG still outproduced Polt by a good amount. I'm not one of those who hypes former BW pros to the high heavens, but the series wasn't close by any measure. The mechanical difference between the two players was glaringly obvious.

ForGG's mechanics...just too good.


My thoughts exactly, couldn't have said it better. fOrGG was very impressive. Also poor JYP got absolutely smashed, like painfully so
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 30 2011 01:24 GMT
#2247
On November 30 2011 09:40 Qaatar wrote:
Polt had a sizable build order advantage against ForGG in the second game, and ForGG still outproduced Polt by a good amount. I'm not one of those who hypes former BW pros to the high heavens, but the series wasn't close by any measure. The mechanical difference between the two players was glaringly obvious.

ForGG's mechanics...just too good.


i would think forgg would the most skilled bw pro in sc2, maybe hyun once he gets going. so the performance and results of forgg would be a good indicator of what the current bw pros may achieve /if/ they switched over.

of course there's a chance that by the time they do switch they would have lost a lot of their capabilities, ala july/nada/boxer
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Xayvier
Profile Joined November 2010
United States387 Posts
November 30 2011 01:26 GMT
#2248
On November 29 2011 08:25 mrKamiya wrote:
LosirA > Alicia
Keen > YugiOh
Polt < forGG
Ryung < Brown
Bomber > JYP
Clide < Parting
Lucky > Nada
Tassadar < Cezanne

HOLY FUCK, I GOT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM CORRECT
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6105 Posts
November 30 2011 01:29 GMT
#2249
Wow forgg raped Polt so baaaaaaaaadly.
#1 Terran hater
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
November 30 2011 01:43 GMT
#2250
On November 30 2011 10:26 mrKamiya wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 08:25 mrKamiya wrote:
LosirA > Alicia
Keen > YugiOh
Polt < forGG
Ryung < Brown
Bomber > JYP
Clide < Parting
Lucky > Nada
Tassadar < Cezanne

HOLY FUCK, I GOT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM CORRECT


I hate you..... I was 2/8....
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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kash2k
Profile Joined November 2010
139 Posts
November 30 2011 01:47 GMT
#2251
Polt had great ideas but his macro wasn't what it should be.

That resulted in a convincing victory for Fin.

I think recently (not all players, but majority) GSL players prefer tactics over mechanics and maybe that is why they holding off on producing units non-stop.

TOP, SuperNova and even Jinro had very strong results when their game was oriented on making units non-stop no matter what.

Maybe it's just Polt who didn't have a good day, but for me it seems that lots of GSL players focus too much on that one crushing engagement and macro falling off their priority list.

Simply outproduced.

Cheering for Kyrix, Genius, SlayerSBoxer and ret!
BarbieHsu
Profile Joined September 2011
574 Posts
November 30 2011 01:59 GMT
#2252
On November 30 2011 10:47 kash2k wrote:
Polt had great ideas but his macro wasn't what it should be.

That resulted in a convincing victory for Fin.

I think recently (not all players, but majority) GSL players prefer tactics over mechanics and maybe that is why they holding off on producing units non-stop.

TOP, SuperNova and even Jinro had very strong results when their game was oriented on making units non-stop no matter what.

Maybe it's just Polt who didn't have a good day, but for me it seems that lots of GSL players focus too much on that one crushing engagement and macro falling off their priority list.

Simply outproduced.



I'm not sure, but hasn't macro always been Polt's weak point?
ticki
Profile Joined December 2010
56 Posts
November 30 2011 02:03 GMT
#2253
On November 30 2011 10:59 BarbieHsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 10:47 kash2k wrote:
Polt had great ideas but his macro wasn't what it should be.

That resulted in a convincing victory for Fin.

I think recently (not all players, but majority) GSL players prefer tactics over mechanics and maybe that is why they holding off on producing units non-stop.

TOP, SuperNova and even Jinro had very strong results when their game was oriented on making units non-stop no matter what.

Maybe it's just Polt who didn't have a good day, but for me it seems that lots of GSL players focus too much on that one crushing engagement and macro falling off their priority list.

Simply outproduced.



I'm not sure, but hasn't macro always been Polt's weak point?


Pretty sure that Macro is basically all that polt has
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 02:05:41
November 30 2011 02:05 GMT
#2254
On November 30 2011 10:59 BarbieHsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 10:47 kash2k wrote:
Polt had great ideas but his macro wasn't what it should be.

That resulted in a convincing victory for Fin.

I think recently (not all players, but majority) GSL players prefer tactics over mechanics and maybe that is why they holding off on producing units non-stop.

TOP, SuperNova and even Jinro had very strong results when their game was oriented on making units non-stop no matter what.

Maybe it's just Polt who didn't have a good day, but for me it seems that lots of GSL players focus too much on that one crushing engagement and macro falling off their priority list.

Simply outproduced.



I'm not sure, but hasn't macro always been Polt's weak point?


His only strong point during the time he was getting results was his understanding of the game and TvP/TvT at the time, plus preparation. He's mechanically average at best.

You can't bank on that to give you any kind long term success.
BWVanguard
Profile Joined November 2011
United States38 Posts
November 30 2011 02:20 GMT
#2255
On November 30 2011 10:47 kash2k wrote:
Polt had great ideas but his macro wasn't what it should be.

That resulted in a convincing victory for Fin.

I think recently (not all players, but majority) GSL players prefer tactics over mechanics and maybe that is why they holding off on producing units non-stop.

TOP, SuperNova and even Jinro had very strong results when their game was oriented on making units non-stop no matter what.

Maybe it's just Polt who didn't have a good day, but for me it seems that lots of GSL players focus too much on that one crushing engagement and macro falling off their priority list.

Simply outproduced.



Polt was focused on macro in game 2 and was doing a damn good job until he completely fell apart. Hard to macro when you have siege tanks and banshees just destroying your scv count. His poor response to the banshees + not pulling scvs from nat in time from tanks + fail drop into siege tank range was sad to watch. Seen Polt play SO much better than that.
andrea20
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada441 Posts
November 30 2011 02:23 GMT
#2256
Goddammit Clide why did you lose

Just about the nicest guy in the GSL and he couldn't catch a break. Oh well, at least he's in the up and downs!
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
November 30 2011 02:41 GMT
#2257
Artosis cursed him to the max
CrispyTender
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada166 Posts
November 30 2011 03:58 GMT
#2258
ForGG WOWWWWWWWWWW that was some cool tvt.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
November 30 2011 04:26 GMT
#2259
I ragequit the internet last night after + Show Spoiler [proleague spoiler] +
KT lost
and totally forgot fOrGG played last night. Game 1 was quite nice. He kept his momentum going the whole game and showed smooth micro and macro throughout. Guess I need to go update his fanclub.

Seeker don't listen to the haters. Your OP is awesome. Maybe put the polls in spoilers if you feel it's too long but don't cater to the humorless and the lazy.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37043 Posts
November 30 2011 04:28 GMT
#2260
On November 30 2011 13:26 red4ce wrote:
I ragequit the internet last night after + Show Spoiler [proleague spoiler] +
KT lost
and totally forgot fOrGG played last night. Game 1 was quite nice. He kept his momentum going the whole game and showed smooth micro and macro throughout. Guess I need to go update his fanclub.

Seeker don't listen to the haters. Your OP is awesome. Maybe put the polls in spoilers if you feel it's too long but don't cater to the humorless and the lazy.


Haha, thanks red4ce. I did put my polls in spoilers though, it made it look much cleaner. I honestly don't mind when ppl give me feedback, because in the end, it just helps me become a better LR thread maker
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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