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hallx
Profile Joined November 2010
Pakistan163 Posts
November 26 2011 10:01 GMT
#401
On November 26 2011 18:59 Deindar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 18:54 Carush wrote:
On November 26 2011 18:54 Gin-san wrote:
Kind of happy that the terran advanced, but why does it have to be the fucking cheeser

he won with a legit strategy why u hatin?


A legit strategy... yes. That said, there's a reason Naama doesn't play "standard." It's because "standard" takes skill and decision making. His "legit strategy" was a gimmicky all-in that won him a game against a vastly better player not because he played well, but because his build completely surprised White-Ra. Of course White-Ra could have played much better and won the game, but it's just a testament to how good Naama's all-in build was that he managed to take a series off a player of such a higher caliber.



I don't even...
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
November 26 2011 10:01 GMT
#402
On November 26 2011 18:50 Turntablez wrote:
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On November 26 2011 18:50 dani` wrote:
On November 26 2011 18:47 Hall0wed wrote:
On November 26 2011 18:46 Turntablez wrote:
Setting koreans against eatchother.

Standard Dreamhack, standard.


My thoughts exactly. Some of the groupings and matches are a little suspicious as to how they turned out. All this Korean killing korean and EG and Liquid killing eachother.

They randomly matched groups and #1s play #2s, stop being so paranoid.

Example; Group D is matched with Group G resulting in White-Ra (#1 D) vs Naama (#2 G) & Ret (#1 G) vs ToD (#2 D)



Please show me a source of this information.

All I can give you is this source: http://www.dreamhack.se/dhw11/files/2011/11/DHW11-StarCraftIIRulebook-1.1.pdf

On the second day group stage #2 will be played, 16 will advance to the playoffs. At the end of the day the playoff will be drawn. All matches Best of three (BO3)

I did not see them draw it, so perhaps just believe them on their word? I know it's hard for you, but just try.

The group pairing part is not in the rules explicitly but is common sense, done to ensure no #1 and #2 can meet each other before the final again if they win everything. You can check the bracket to see it has most likely been done.
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
November 26 2011 10:01 GMT
#403
On November 26 2011 18:59 Deindar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 18:54 Carush wrote:
On November 26 2011 18:54 Gin-san wrote:
Kind of happy that the terran advanced, but why does it have to be the fucking cheeser

he won with a legit strategy why u hatin?


A legit strategy... yes. That said, there's a reason Naama doesn't play "standard." It's because "standard" takes skill and decision making. His "legit strategy" was a gimmicky all-in that won him a game against a vastly better player not because he played well, but because his build completely surprised White-Ra. Of course White-Ra could have played much better and won the game, but it's just a testament to how good Naama's all-in build was that he managed to take a series off a player of such a higher caliber.


I hope you're not talking about game 3. Whitera was just straightup outplayed.
Musclecore
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Sweden103 Posts
November 26 2011 10:01 GMT
#404
Mmmm, upsets. A tasty treat for lunch.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 10:02:26
November 26 2011 10:01 GMT
#405
On November 26 2011 18:59 Deindar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 18:54 Carush wrote:
On November 26 2011 18:54 Gin-san wrote:
Kind of happy that the terran advanced, but why does it have to be the fucking cheeser

he won with a legit strategy why u hatin?


A legit strategy... yes. That said, there's a reason Naama doesn't play "standard." It's because "standard" takes skill and decision making. His "legit strategy" was a gimmicky all-in that won him a game against a vastly better player not because he played well, but because his build completely surprised White-Ra. Of course White-Ra could have played much better and won the game, but it's just a testament to how good Naama's all-in build was that he managed to take a series off a player of such a higher caliber.


cloaked banshees into 6 minute expand = gimmicky all-in LOL. white-ra played like a bronze scrub that game. you're probably too biased to see it.

there's a reason why so many terrans don't do standard 1 rax fe -> 3 rax -> starport -> 5 rax as often. it's because it DOESNT work anymore, so terrans have to come up with a new way to beat protoss.

edit: not sure if getting trolled
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
November 26 2011 10:01 GMT
#406
On November 26 2011 18:59 Deindar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 18:54 Carush wrote:
On November 26 2011 18:54 Gin-san wrote:
Kind of happy that the terran advanced, but why does it have to be the fucking cheeser

he won with a legit strategy why u hatin?


A legit strategy... yes. That said, there's a reason Naama doesn't play "standard." It's because "standard" takes skill and decision making. His "legit strategy" was a gimmicky all-in that won him a game against a vastly better player not because he played well, but because his build completely surprised White-Ra. Of course White-Ra could have played much better and won the game, but it's just a testament to how good Naama's all-in build was that he managed to take a series off a player of such a higher caliber.


if white ra was so good in that series he would have built a cannon in his mineral line. but guess what? He wasnt good. He played poorly and got outplayed. It happens.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
November 26 2011 10:02 GMT
#407
This song sounds like "Oh Naama..." Anyone else hearing it?
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
November 26 2011 10:02 GMT
#408
Bleh wanted white-ra to win..
Wasnt that much AntiNaama, you guys are overexaggerating. Was more like White-Ra love then Naama hate.
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
November 26 2011 10:02 GMT
#409
Day9 is holding up the flow @ the signing. Mr bitter waits and waits, while day9 is talking with fans
I am not young enough to know everything.
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
November 26 2011 10:02 GMT
#410
Im really curious if Naniwa's death march will continue on into this tournie.
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
November 26 2011 10:02 GMT
#411
Good thing there's no liquibet for this, because id already be 0/2
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
sodapop
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden189 Posts
November 26 2011 10:02 GMT
#412
The only good thing about the results so far is that we might have a Mana - Naama finals rematch! How about that for a surprise?
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
November 26 2011 10:02 GMT
#413
On November 26 2011 19:02 Grend wrote:
Bleh wanted white-ra to win..
Wasnt that much AntiNaama, you guys are overexaggerating. Was more like White-Ra love then Naama hate.


No it was just Naama hate. They barely even talked about Whitera the entire game 3.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
November 26 2011 10:02 GMT
#414
On November 26 2011 19:02 AndAgain wrote:
This song sounds like "Oh Naama..." Anyone else hearing it?


Was thinking the same thing
I am not young enough to know everything.
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
November 26 2011 10:02 GMT
#415
On November 26 2011 18:59 Deindar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 18:54 Carush wrote:
On November 26 2011 18:54 Gin-san wrote:
Kind of happy that the terran advanced, but why does it have to be the fucking cheeser

he won with a legit strategy why u hatin?


A legit strategy... yes. That said, there's a reason Naama doesn't play "standard." It's because "standard" takes skill and decision making. His "legit strategy" was a gimmicky all-in that won him a game against a vastly better player not because he played well, but because his build completely surprised White-Ra. Of course White-Ra could have played much better and won the game, but it's just a testament to how good Naama's all-in build was that he managed to take a series off a player of such a higher caliber.


It wasn't a bloody all in, it was a fairly standard attack against someone who decided to double expand with not much of an army. His attack included some cloaked banshees, boo friggin hoo, they're a great unit for DPS
@followMVT
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
November 26 2011 10:03 GMT
#416
On November 26 2011 18:58 [17]Purple wrote:
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On November 26 2011 18:55 Swiv wrote:
nice, Naama.

The bias hate from tastosis is unbearable...


Ever watch GSL?

Indeed I do, that's why I prefer Code A

Mediocre, biased casting there, Congrats Naama!! Continue this return to glory!!
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
November 26 2011 10:03 GMT
#417
On November 26 2011 18:59 Deindar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 18:54 Carush wrote:
On November 26 2011 18:54 Gin-san wrote:
Kind of happy that the terran advanced, but why does it have to be the fucking cheeser

he won with a legit strategy why u hatin?


A legit strategy... yes. That said, there's a reason Naama doesn't play "standard." It's because "standard" takes skill and decision making. His "legit strategy" was a gimmicky all-in that won him a game against a vastly better player not because he played well, but because his build completely surprised White-Ra. Of course White-Ra could have played much better and won the game, but it's just a testament to how good Naama's all-in build was that he managed to take a series off a player of such a higher caliber.


Being able to prepare and execute very specific "all-in" builds takes skill imo and its much more fun to watch than standard play with mmm.
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
November 26 2011 10:03 GMT
#418
On November 26 2011 19:02 sodapop wrote:
The only good thing about the results so far is that we might have a Mana - Naama finals rematch! How about that for a surprise?

Would be sooooo awesome. But MaNa has to win this time :D
Deindar
Profile Joined May 2010
United States302 Posts
November 26 2011 10:03 GMT
#419
On November 26 2011 19:01 akalarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 18:59 Deindar wrote:
On November 26 2011 18:54 Carush wrote:
On November 26 2011 18:54 Gin-san wrote:
Kind of happy that the terran advanced, but why does it have to be the fucking cheeser

he won with a legit strategy why u hatin?


A legit strategy... yes. That said, there's a reason Naama doesn't play "standard." It's because "standard" takes skill and decision making. His "legit strategy" was a gimmicky all-in that won him a game against a vastly better player not because he played well, but because his build completely surprised White-Ra. Of course White-Ra could have played much better and won the game, but it's just a testament to how good Naama's all-in build was that he managed to take a series off a player of such a higher caliber.


cloaked banshees into 6 minute expand = gimmicky all-in LOL. white-ra played like a bronze scrub that game. you're probably too biased to see it.

there's a reason why so many terrans don't do standard 1 rax fe -> 3 rax -> starport -> 5 rax as often. it's because it DOESNT work anymore, so terrans have to come up with a new way to beat protoss.

edit: not sure if getting trolled


It wasn't obvious enough
I'll try harder next time.
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ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
November 26 2011 10:04 GMT
#420
Go GENIUS!!
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