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Please stop the tournament comparison discussion. Especially regarding players their runs (Stephano seems to be the current topic). Stay on topic and stick to the games. Consequences will be met out to further derailment.

In addition leave the usual out of this topic:

-Balance complaints
-Map complaints
-Stream complaints
-Caster/player bashing
-Off topic discussions

Logically continue this list with things that are obviously frowned
upon. Enjoy the free and wonderful event with loads of games and coverage!
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9384 Posts
November 26 2011 01:49 GMT
#5941
On November 26 2011 09:36 murphs wrote:
I am absolutely delighted that Terran is having a poor showing for once. Aiur knows we have enough Terrans in GSL, nice to see other tournaments giving some variety.


For once?
Your kidding right. No foreign terran player has one a major live tournament in 1 year.
Petrina
Profile Joined December 2010
United States178 Posts
November 26 2011 01:50 GMT
#5942
I am so happy for my countryman NightEnD making it in last 16! Go NightEnD!
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
November 26 2011 02:28 GMT
#5943
On November 26 2011 10:14 Weson wrote:
White-ra vs Naama
NightEnd vs Sase
DongRaeGu vs Naniwa
Puma vs Genius
Seiplo vs Huk
Sheth vs Hero
Nerchio vs Mana
Ret vs ToD

White-ra vs Sase
DongRaeGu vs Genius
Huk vs Sheth
Nerchio vs Ret

White-ra vs DongRaeGu
Ret vs Sheth

DongRaeGu vs Sheth

I wouldn't be surprised if Nani beat DRG; particularly after MLG.

Genius beating PuMa would also surprise me. Nerchio won't lose a ZvZ and Sheth beating HerO and HuK I think would be considered an upset. Not saying he can't because he is so awesome but yeah..

I can see Nerchio making the finals
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
November 26 2011 02:44 GMT
#5944
Puma will 1-1-1 to victory all day
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 03:00:44
November 26 2011 02:59 GMT
#5945
It wouldn't be a tournament if Sheth and Hero didn't have to play each other in it. -_-

Also holy Protoss batman.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
November 26 2011 03:02 GMT
#5946
Holy DreamPvP batman.

Welp, I guess we have

GomTvT
BliZvZcon
And now PvP fest.

Haha. And judging by the banner there was a lot of whinning. Oh you LR threads
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
November 26 2011 03:10 GMT
#5947
-.- well honestly I can't call who wins... tksgiving/family time = less sc time need to watch vods
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
November 26 2011 03:13 GMT
#5948
Finally I'm not the only one losing to toss ;D
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
WCH
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada239 Posts
November 26 2011 03:15 GMT
#5949
any vods?
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
November 26 2011 03:39 GMT
#5950
I think lots of Terran players like to state the fact that terran isn't doing too well in this tournament to start whining about balance, but the truth is, despite some exceptions, the top 16 reflects pretty much perfectly upon the current Euro SC2 scene. Protoss has always been strong in europe in comparison to Korea so this is only the most predictable of outcomes.

I miss a few players, namely Kas, ThorZain and Stephano, but apart from that, considering the player pool, top 16 reflects pretty well on the reality of EU server. This is clearly not about balance between races, as protoss has always been relatively solid within europe, it's actually about korean terran being above "rest of the world terran", EU mechanics and play just isn't on korean level, which would explain the huge metagame difference between korea and the rest of the world.
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
November 26 2011 04:25 GMT
#5951
On November 25 2011 15:57 itkovian wrote:

I'm really liking the racial distributions this round, its pretty even. 12-10-10. Hopefully it can stay that way through the rounds so we can mitigate the QQ


Damn, I jinxed it. I guess european protoss are too good
=)=
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
November 26 2011 04:35 GMT
#5952
Terran is a race that benefits from really good multitasking and micro, there aren't that many top tier non-korean terrans but it's not a balance issue, it will just take some time
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
November 26 2011 04:50 GMT
#5953
thats alot of brotoss bro.
Raiznhell
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada786 Posts
November 26 2011 04:52 GMT
#5954
On November 26 2011 12:39 mordk wrote:
I think lots of Terran players like to state the fact that terran isn't doing too well in this tournament to start whining about balance, but the truth is, despite some exceptions, the top 16 reflects pretty much perfectly upon the current Euro SC2 scene. Protoss has always been strong in europe in comparison to Korea so this is only the most predictable of outcomes.

I miss a few players, namely Kas, ThorZain and Stephano, but apart from that, considering the player pool, top 16 reflects pretty well on the reality of EU server. This is clearly not about balance between races, as protoss has always been relatively solid within europe, it's actually about korean terran being above "rest of the world terran", EU mechanics and play just isn't on korean level, which would explain the huge metagame difference between korea and the rest of the world.


This Tournament plus the last couple of MLGs plus the fact that very soon there's only going to be a handful of Terrans in GSL not to mention the last korean weekly had 3 protoss in the top 4. NASL divisions right now Terrans are for the most part doing badly.
Cake or Death?
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
November 26 2011 05:18 GMT
#5955
On November 26 2011 13:52 Raiznhell wrote:
the fact that very soon there's only going to be a handful of Terrans in GSL

You're hilarious.
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 05:36:56
November 26 2011 05:35 GMT
#5956
this bracket doesnt seem very random to me

i dont mean its fishy or anything
Keyz1
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada94 Posts
November 26 2011 05:46 GMT
#5957
Why is it that protoss players like HuK, HerO, NaNiwa, SaSe, MaNa etc. get so far in tournaments, not to mention completely right out win them and take down big Zerg and Terran players?

Protoss can't be that bad.

canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
November 26 2011 06:14 GMT
#5958
On November 26 2011 14:18 Severian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 13:52 Raiznhell wrote:
the fact that very soon there's only going to be a handful of Terrans in GSL

You're hilarious.

Note "very soon"

If i remember right, the racial number between 3 races in code S+A last month was 17P-28T-19Z, and this month is 22P-29T-21Z or something.

Of course it's gonna take a while to weed out the Terran because of tournament system, but it's undeniable that Terran is on the decline in GSL.

It's not a bad thing to see it though.
Gargara
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania150 Posts
November 26 2011 06:51 GMT
#5959
On November 26 2011 14:35 Govou wrote:
this bracket doesnt seem very random to me

i dont mean its fishy or anything


I think the groups were seletcted random, it's A/C, B/F, D/G and E/H 1st vs 2nd in each.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
November 26 2011 07:04 GMT
#5960
On November 26 2011 13:52 Raiznhell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 12:39 mordk wrote:
I think lots of Terran players like to state the fact that terran isn't doing too well in this tournament to start whining about balance, but the truth is, despite some exceptions, the top 16 reflects pretty much perfectly upon the current Euro SC2 scene. Protoss has always been strong in europe in comparison to Korea so this is only the most predictable of outcomes.

I miss a few players, namely Kas, ThorZain and Stephano, but apart from that, considering the player pool, top 16 reflects pretty well on the reality of EU server. This is clearly not about balance between races, as protoss has always been relatively solid within europe, it's actually about korean terran being above "rest of the world terran", EU mechanics and play just isn't on korean level, which would explain the huge metagame difference between korea and the rest of the world.


This Tournament plus the last couple of MLGs plus the fact that very soon there's only going to be a handful of Terrans in GSL not to mention the last korean weekly had 3 protoss in the top 4. NASL divisions right now Terrans are for the most part doing badly.

man Terran whining is so baseless. A handfull? Of the top 8 in GSL this season 5 were terran, 2 toss, 1 zerg. Those are the people in code s next season guaranteed. Thats a handful for sure. Sad thing is there are less for the other 2 races. When will you be happy? 8 terrans?

Round of 32 this season had 19 terran 5 protoss and 8 zerg. That about where you want it? Man. If a few of those terrans dont make it back it will only be because the crappy ones were riding the terran wave and its been brought down to the level of the other races lately. Terran also had half of the round of 16. Got any more complaints? To answer them I'll point out the round of 4. It has 2 terrans. This has been one of the most balanced GSL's in recent memory with zerg having the poorest performance.
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