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Here we go again. This weekend is about good games and good fun. Don't rain on that parade. Play nice guys. Here's the very standard and friendly:

- NO Balance Whine.
- NO Player Bashing.
- NO Caster Bashing.
- NO BM whatsoever.

Breaking these rules (from pg 166 forward) will be met with severe punishment.
Terminal
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 19:29:12
November 20 2011 19:28 GMT
#4621
IT'S ZVZ... seriously. The tide can turn instantly.. so at least try?
kammeyer
Profile Joined June 2010
United States275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 19:28:32
November 20 2011 19:28 GMT
#4622
The game wasn't over. Anyone who thinks so clearly doesn't understand how volatile ZvZ is. A slip up in micro or a capitalization in micro could have changed the entire game.

It's dumb to think otherwise.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
November 20 2011 19:28 GMT
#4623
Idra should take a note from Nestea's book in ZvZ. He's come back from bigger disadvantages this weekend.
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
November 20 2011 19:28 GMT
#4624
Idra was behind like 10 drones so almost no chance the supply was in lings that wouldnt help anything. (check vod)
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
November 20 2011 19:28 GMT
#4625
On November 21 2011 04:26 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 04:24 illsick wrote:
why does idra do that lol

Here's an actual explanation:

Idra plays with the mindset that gimmicky shit is stupid and he should stay away from it. Idra dislikes ling/bling wars because of this. Now he already lost a bunch of drones to a small ling attack and he must have tilted at this point and tried to counter with banelings. When he saw leenock's defense/banelings and how far ahead he was (not really that much but still) Idra realised that he had tilted and said "fuck it I need a reset" and decided to throw the game.

The banelings morphing was the moment he tilted, not when he left (I mean he even gg'd).

So yeah, there you go.


Yeah that´s kinda a good analysis i suppose, however this mentality gets you nowhere in such a tournament.
Broodwar for life!
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 19:30:51
November 20 2011 19:28 GMT
#4626
On November 21 2011 04:25 nath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 04:23 chadissilent wrote:
Idra GGs when the players are sitting at even supply. Brilliant.

he lost 6 drones. but yeah i think he was only behind 2 or 3. and ling/bling micro or just gambling on squeezing out a few more drones than is safe coulda won so it definitely wasnt over.


It was over.
If you watched the production tab you wouldve seen that idra produced only lings and blings after he lost those 6 drones, while leenock produced almost exclusively drones, which puts idra behind 6-10 drones.
After idra saw that there were that many lings and blings for defense, he knew it would be almost impossible to do anything.

I wouldve liked if he atleast tried that agression, even after seeing all those blings and lings as defense, but i can understand why he left there.
_Depression
Profile Joined October 2011
United States251 Posts
November 20 2011 19:28 GMT
#4627
On November 21 2011 04:27 Teejing wrote:
will there be vods i can watch of haypro vs mvp without membership?


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=free mlg silver
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
November 20 2011 19:28 GMT
#4628
On November 21 2011 04:27 Camlito wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 04:25 Nizaris wrote:
On November 21 2011 04:24 evolute wrote:
That was soo over.

He lost 6 drones, had a later expansion, had less banelings, and had less zerglings.


doesn't matter if it looks like it's over, one good baneling explosion and he was back in the game.


Leenock had 1 more bane, a spine, 2 queens and a better eco. It was over. He simply didn't embarassingly send banes in, and if he did people on TL would probably bash his zvz - -;


That's just a ridiculous statement and is only applicable if two robots are playing the game. It's like saying you should leave every game you fall a bit behind in.
JMDj
Profile Joined September 2010
United States454 Posts
November 20 2011 19:28 GMT
#4629
No disrespect to Idra, he is absolutely my favorite player, but he needs to get his head out of his ass. He is a professional and there was no reason for him to GG out of that game. Was he behind? Yes. Was he so far behind that the game was over? Not even close. Idra has played ONE series so far at MLG there's no way he should be fatigued or anything like that JUST PLAY OUT THE DAMN GAME.

anonymitylol
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada4477 Posts
November 20 2011 19:28 GMT
#4630
On November 21 2011 04:27 FryktSkyene wrote:
My god i'(T)M glad (T)IdrA isn't (T)Protoss he would be down 1 stalker and insta-quit in a 4 gate battle without microing it out\


-.-


Nice Wiki-izing there
gold on my wrist phone in my pocket
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
November 20 2011 19:28 GMT
#4631
Why the fuck would you cast MVP on a beta stream =/

MLG might as well be IdraTV sometimes ><

Haypro playing pretty good so far :O
paintfive
Profile Joined September 2011
785 Posts
November 20 2011 19:28 GMT
#4632
omfg haypro is on FIRE
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
November 20 2011 19:28 GMT
#4633
On November 21 2011 04:27 Corrupted wrote:
People (including Idra), seem to think he's incapable of overcoming a deficit. If his macro is good enough to win games when they are even, why can't it be good enough to overcome a disadvantage?


Its ZvZ, good macro cant overcome mathmatics.

Enough discussing Idra, Haypro needs our support.
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
November 20 2011 19:28 GMT
#4634
On November 21 2011 04:26 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 04:24 illsick wrote:
why does idra do that lol

Here's an actual explanation:

Idra plays with the mindset that gimmicky shit is stupid and he should stay away from it. Idra dislikes ling/bling wars because of this. Now he already lost a bunch of drones to a small ling attack and he must have tilted at this point and tried to counter with banelings. When he saw leenock's defense/banelings and how far ahead he was (not really that much but still) Idra realised that he had tilted and said "fuck it I need a reset" and decided to throw the game.

The banelings morphing was the moment he tilted, not when he left (I mean he even gg'd).

So yeah, there you go.


cancelled spine, in my opinion.
That spine would be useful if you had any intention of continuing the game. As soon as he cancels the spine he is thinking "i don't even care if he counterattacks, this game is over"
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
November 20 2011 19:28 GMT
#4635
Haypro is like... awesome.. WTF?
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
November 20 2011 19:28 GMT
#4636
On November 21 2011 04:24 Blaec wrote:
Idra lost his queen and was down on drones with no tech or army advantage.

yep. but at least you can f...ing try to come back. there's always a small possibility that the opponent makes a big mistake.
watch mvp when he's behind. he NEVER gives up. (just think of that game vs. losira yesterday)
first we make expand, then we defense it.
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
November 20 2011 19:28 GMT
#4637
haypro is bloody crushing with him

what is this
@followMVT
Luk_e
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany550 Posts
November 20 2011 19:29 GMT
#4638
haypro is in such good shape today, simply amazing
Nanar
Profile Joined July 2011
United States16 Posts
November 20 2011 19:29 GMT
#4639
hayder looking good...?
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
November 20 2011 19:29 GMT
#4640
On November 21 2011 04:27 Fubi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 04:23 Poopi wrote:
On November 21 2011 04:22 CEPEHDREI wrote:
marconofrio Marc Onofrio
@ESFI Here's a fun fact: NaNiwa is 4-1 and gtd. $15,000. Leenock is 21-3 and only gtd. $3000.


gotta love the system. but leenock is still there so i wont bitch too much

And how many games NaNiwa played in order to be seeded?
Seriously XD you expect someone to come only at the last tournament, and win more/equal with as much matches than someone who only missed one tournament?

Yes, I expect the player doing better at THIS tournament to win more from THIS tournament. Hard logic i know.

Yeah, because all of those Open Bracket players at the start were really hard for Leenock to beat.

Meanwhile NaNiWa has beaten HuK, MVP, NesTea twice.....
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
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