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On November 20 2011 10:24 kofman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 10:23 Jacobs Ladder wrote:On November 20 2011 10:22 Logros wrote:On November 20 2011 10:21 Asha` wrote: Disgusting seeing MVP lose toa blind all in like this despite being so incredibly prepared for it.
MC pretty damn lucky. MVP made his 3rd CC almost at the same time as MC's 2nd nexus. If he would've gone a normal build he would've been fine. This EXACTLY. A greedy build losing to an All-in? Must be unfair! Either that or MC played GREAT. Greedy build??? He had FOUR BUNKERS! Plus, he walled off with depots, had great repair, and had stim. What else does he need?
More army units, his army production paled in comparison to MC's. 4 Bunkers won't stop that attack without army reinforcements.
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On November 20 2011 10:23 Nocteo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 10:23 Legend` wrote:On November 20 2011 10:22 kofman wrote: 4 bunkers, stim depot wall-offs, and he still can't stop a 6-gate... this is ridiculous. Fast medivacs is the hard counter to 6gate, not a double command center + delayed tech build With fast medivacs you won't have enough units to hold it.
Yes you would. He went 3 CC before even building his 2nd rax or getting gas. Think how much that delays your tech.
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On November 20 2011 10:24 kofman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 10:23 Jacobs Ladder wrote:On November 20 2011 10:22 Logros wrote:On November 20 2011 10:21 Asha` wrote: Disgusting seeing MVP lose toa blind all in like this despite being so incredibly prepared for it.
MC pretty damn lucky. MVP made his 3rd CC almost at the same time as MC's 2nd nexus. If he would've gone a normal build he would've been fine. This EXACTLY. A greedy build losing to an All-in? Must be unfair! Either that or MC played GREAT. Greedy build??? He had FOUR BUNKERS! Plus, he walled off with depots, had great repair, and had stim. What else does he need? Did you not see the 3rd orbital?
delayed his medivac/factory tech by a lot.
you guys wonder why he loses.....
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Its crazy how when MVP loses to a timing attack that he prepared for perfectly, people just say "he played greedy", while whenever Toss loses to 111 or 3 rax or anything like that, its immediatly imba.
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On November 20 2011 10:24 scaban84 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 10:23 Black Gun wrote: omfg, this game made me so angry as a terran player. what more could mvp have done in terms of defense? how are you actually supposed to hold an attack like this one?
id be really curious for higher level players in here explaining to me what mvp did wrong that game.... He played greedy by going for a third CC. He had no Siege Tanks.
Tanks aren't what you want, once medivacs hit protoss pretty much auto losses in a 6 gate allin situation. Mvp lost that game, because of the early CC and double ebay.
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No gif, but hopefully this will tide you all over ;o
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On November 20 2011 10:24 TYJ.Aoy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 10:23 Eppa! wrote:On November 20 2011 10:23 Black Gun wrote: omfg, this game made me so angry as a terran player. what more could mvp have done in terms of defense? how are you actually supposed to hold an attack like this one?
id be really curious for higher level players in here explaining to me what mvp did wrong that game.... Try to scout? And do what in response?Make 10 bunkers?That game was 100% unreasonable, period, period.
A good response would not be to build 3 command centers.
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I guess I didnt see the 3rd cc by mvp. That game makes sense now. Also this outcome sucks for idra.
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On November 20 2011 10:24 Goshdarnit wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 10:22 tuho12345 wrote: Fuck yes MC, punish that greedy terran Greedy? did he need 5 bunkers? oh wait that wouldnt have helped. He need medivacs or tanks but how could he have gotten them? I actually don't know what should MvP have done? I dont' play T.
What should he have done? Not go triple CC in the first five minutes against 6+ gate timings.
As little as I like watching a six gate with guardian shield and forcefields roll over a Terran player in a ten minute game, there has to be some build that can counter a Terran going triple early command center.
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On November 20 2011 10:24 Goshdarnit wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 10:22 tuho12345 wrote: Fuck yes MC, punish that greedy terran Greedy? did he need 5 bunkers? oh wait that wouldnt have helped. He need medivacs or tanks but how could he have gotten them? I actually don't know what should MvP have done? I dont' play T.
he had 3 cc at 6min mark and 1 rax, thats not greedy for u?
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On November 20 2011 10:25 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 10:21 Asha` wrote: Disgusting seeing MVP lose to a blind all in like this despite being so incredibly prepared for it.
MC pretty damn lucky. MVP threw down two CCs early, dude. If a Protoss can't punish that, then I'd just throw up my hands and quit this game. And I play Terran.
The better question is, why does he feel the need to throw down 2 ccs and 2 eng bays?
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On November 20 2011 10:24 EEhantiming wrote:MC vs MVPPoll: Recommend Game 3?Yes (64) 63% No (25) 25% If you have time (13) 13% 102 total votes Your vote: Recommend Game 3? (Vote): Yes (Vote): No (Vote): If you have time
abso-fucking-lutely if that includes the ceremony! :D
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On November 20 2011 10:24 Hall0wed wrote:Hey look more tears!!! MMMMM so yummy and so salty. Keep em flowing son!
I wonder how much rage this would have generated if a terran did this about 111.
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On November 20 2011 10:23 Al Bundy wrote: TvP is MVP's worst matchup, while MC is one of the best Protosses in the world. This outcome isn't that surprising. Nope, considering the history between MVP and MC, this is HUGELY surprising. Blanket statements and generalizations are bad.
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Lol guys, MVP lost that because he went super greedy with an early 3rd. Had the medevacs have been earlier(He delayed them IIRC, normally when 1 rax FE its 3 rax, then medevacs or 4 rax and push out with marines) he would have done much much better.
No Imba, MVP was kinda greedy and he almost held it. I think that with more Bunkers he could have held it much better
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On November 20 2011 10:23 Black Gun wrote: omfg, this game made me so angry as a terran player. what more could mvp have done in terms of defense? how are you actually supposed to hold an attack like this one?
id be really curious for higher level players in here explaining to me what mvp did wrong that game....
It's not so much what MVP did wrong, it's what MC did right. MVP played really greedy and MC made use of that with a perfect timing push. If MC would have attacked 2 minutes later MVP's third CC would have been paid off and MVP would have had enough units. MVP took a risk and paid for it. That attack wasn't about 'what should he have done more' at all
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On November 20 2011 10:26 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 10:25 Grettin wrote: My god..
MC vs IdrA DongRaeGu vs MMA NaNiwa vs NesTea HerO vs HuK Holy fuck. Such good games this MLG
Yep, and i'm already out of beer and everything else. It's not even championship sunday yet. T_T
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On November 20 2011 10:24 kofman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 10:23 Jacobs Ladder wrote:On November 20 2011 10:22 Logros wrote:On November 20 2011 10:21 Asha` wrote: Disgusting seeing MVP lose toa blind all in like this despite being so incredibly prepared for it.
MC pretty damn lucky. MVP made his 3rd CC almost at the same time as MC's 2nd nexus. If he would've gone a normal build he would've been fine. This EXACTLY. A greedy build losing to an All-in? Must be unfair! Either that or MC played GREAT. Greedy build??? He had FOUR BUNKERS! Plus, he walled off with depots, had great repair, and had stim. What else does he need?
I'm Terran, and I don't think four bunkers should make you impervious to everything. Protoss can counter bunker repairing with forcefields, which is why you can't rely on that.
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On November 20 2011 10:26 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2011 10:25 Zorgaz wrote: IdrA NEEDS to win this. I can't stand seeing him lose to himself against MC again.... ^^ I think Idra has lost to MC in almost every single tournament they have both been in.
Idras mindset has super improved now. I don't think MC can force Idra into a tilt this time.
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