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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
November 19 2011 22:52 GMT
#5281
really quick +3 mech weaps for jinro
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 19 2011 22:52 GMT
#5282
On November 20 2011 07:51 SeaSwift wrote:
Naniwa calling Nestea an idiot was clearly not entirely serious. And I'm amazed people are bringing up Major and relating it to Naniwa.

nani clearly isn't BM like Major is any more.


He is quite BM. Not gg'ing in the GSL is a big no-no. People have lost much worse games and still gg'ed.
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 19 2011 22:52 GMT
#5283
On November 20 2011 07:50 Eufouria wrote:
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On November 20 2011 07:46 Grettin wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:45 Lunares wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:44 mango_destroyer wrote:
nani so bm i hope nestea beats him


Because he said Nestea doesn't have the best ZvP in Korea? I would agree with that. He has the best ZvZ by far, a great ZvP and a good ZvT but not the "best" in the those last 2.


Not just that, but Nani acts like a brat and is bad mannered in general, has always been, apparently since WC3 also. So he has a point.

He used to be like that, not so much any more, but apparently that was caused by a lot of personal problems he used to have.

Naniwa gets a lot of hate for how blunt he is sometimes, and I can't help but think that's partly to do with the language barrier, his English is good but its not great by any means.


his english isn't that bad that it could lead to him calling nestea an idiot out of lack of vocabulary.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
November 19 2011 22:52 GMT
#5284
How long till the next game starts?
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Trigger1101
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden80 Posts
November 19 2011 22:52 GMT
#5285
I really dont understand why naniwa says the things he does, its only hurting him. He needs to chill.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
November 19 2011 22:52 GMT
#5286
Naniwa acts the exact same way towards himself, so I'm not sure if it was an insult or just Naniwa being his regular self.

He called NesTea an idiot because he pulled the drones to attack, he didn't call him an idiot in general
laharl23
Profile Joined February 2011
United States582 Posts
November 19 2011 22:52 GMT
#5287
On November 20 2011 07:51 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
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On November 20 2011 07:48 ch33psh33p wrote:

On November 20 2011 07:46 trucane wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:43 ch33psh33p wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:42 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:40 hugman wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:40 Warrior Madness wrote:
What exactly did naniwa say after his wins yesterday? I missed that.


he said nestea was an idiot for sending all his drones on taldarim

He also said that Nestea's ZVP was much worse than any number of other korean zergs with Check having the strongest one.


The fact that Naniwa thinks Check has the best ZvP just shows how much shit he's spewing.

Its Coca, and its not even close.


I'm fairly certain that naniwa who is playing several hours in korea every single day has a better understanding on who has the better ZvP than you do

Look at who Naniwa lost to.

HE said what he said to stroke his own ego.

I kind of agree, he also dissed the entire wc3 community despite trying hard to be good at it and never achieving nothing more than being a complete nobody, he even called Grubby, a much smarter player than he will ever be, a mediocre player.


it was a joke against orc players (because he played ud)

you have to play wc3 to understand lol
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 19 2011 22:52 GMT
#5288
On November 20 2011 07:52 Drazerk wrote:
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On November 20 2011 07:51 Drazerk wrote:
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On November 20 2011 07:47 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

9:30

Lair on the way for Violet

Siege tech and another factory for Jinro


10:00


Third base on the way for jinro

Evo for Violet


11:00


baneling and roach speed on the way

More factories for Jinro


12:00


Mech weapons +2 starting


12:40


Top left gold being taken for violet


13:10


infestation pit and OL upgrades for Violet


14:00


Third almost goes down for Jinro but he saves it just in time

Blue flame research now starting


15:20


Hive and spire for Violet

Another base on the way for Jinro while getting +3 mech


16:00


Drop on the way from Jinro killing a drone


17:00


Lots of currupters in production for Violet


18:00

Greater spire on the way
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
November 19 2011 22:53 GMT
#5289
On November 20 2011 07:50 mordk wrote:
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On November 20 2011 07:46 trucane wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:43 ch33psh33p wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:42 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:40 hugman wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:40 Warrior Madness wrote:
What exactly did naniwa say after his wins yesterday? I missed that.


he said nestea was an idiot for sending all his drones on taldarim

He also said that Nestea's ZVP was much worse than any number of other korean zergs with Check having the strongest one.


The fact that Naniwa thinks Check has the best ZvP just shows how much shit he's spewing.

Its Coca, and its not even close.


I'm fairly certain that naniwa who is playing several hours in korea every single day has a better understanding on who has the better ZvP than you do


He's clearly wrong though. It's pretty much uncontestable now that CoCa has the best ZvP out there, Lucky isn't even that good, and say nothing about Check. They're just the players that beat him.

To be honest, it's probably more that Lucky and Check are good vs. Nani more than anything else. It's really hard to get a perspective on who is the "best" player in a match-up if you beat player X easier than you do Y, and it does feel like Y is better than X in that case.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 22:53:25
November 19 2011 22:53 GMT
#5290
On November 20 2011 07:50 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 07:46 Grettin wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:45 Lunares wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:44 mango_destroyer wrote:
nani so bm i hope nestea beats him


Because he said Nestea doesn't have the best ZvP in Korea? I would agree with that. He has the best ZvZ by far, a great ZvP and a good ZvT but not the "best" in the those last 2.


Not just that, but Nani acts like a brat and is bad mannered in general, has always been, apparently since WC3 also. So he has a point.

He used to be like that, not so much any more, but apparently that was caused by a lot of personal problems he used to have.

Naniwa gets a lot of hate for how blunt he is sometimes, and I can't help but think that's partly to do with the language barrier, his English is good but its not great by any means.


Maybe he has gotten "better" as well as Idra has, but the match versus Lucky didn't really show anything new, instead the "same old" Naniwa IMO. Yeah definitely, language barrier might have something to do it.

But anyway, no one is forcing anyone to like someone so.. :-)
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 22:53:21
November 19 2011 22:53 GMT
#5291
On November 20 2011 07:52 MCDayC wrote:
How long till the next game starts?


probably 7 minutes
VediVeci
Profile Joined October 2011
United States82 Posts
November 19 2011 22:53 GMT
#5292
Lol who's casting Jinro Violet? They keep missing drops like crazy
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10383 Posts
November 19 2011 22:53 GMT
#5293
On November 20 2011 07:52 Sneakyz wrote:
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On November 20 2011 07:48 StyLeD wrote:
Lost all respect for Naniwa. Why would you call someone an idiot when you beat them once?

There is a difference in saying pulling drones was idiotic and saying Nestea is an actual idiot.


what is the exact wording? the quote above says he called him an idiot for doing that

Also I'm surprised, Check having the best ZvP? hes not even in GSL lol
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 19 2011 22:53 GMT
#5294
On November 20 2011 07:52 Drazerk wrote:
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On November 20 2011 07:49 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:49 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:48 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:47 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

10:00


Third base on the way for jinro

Evo for Violet


11:00


baneling and roach speed on the way

More factories for Jinro


12:00


Mech weapons +2 starting


12:40


Top left gold being taken for violet


13:10


infestation pit and OL upgrades for Violet


14:00


Third almost goes down for Jinro but he saves it just in time

Blue flame research now starting


15:20


Hive and spire for Violet

Another base on the way for Jinro while getting +3 mech


16:00


Drop on the way from Jinro killing a drone


17:00


Lots of currupters in production for Violet


18:00

Greater spire on the way


19:00


Jinro taking the bottom right gold
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
November 19 2011 22:53 GMT
#5295
On November 20 2011 07:50 hugman wrote:

Sure but to say, as a spectator who's probably in gold, that a pro player is full of shit when someone asks him who he thinks is the best ZvPer is ridiculous. What the fuck makes spectators think they know all about balance and the players so well just from watching a tiny sample of games played?


Well, given that there are mutually exclusive opinions among pros in Korea (Oz says coca has best ZvP, nani says Lucky has best ZvP), some of them have to be wrong. "full of shit" is way to harsh a way to put it, but I would say it is probably Naniwa is wrong here. But then, I'm plat, so what do I know?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 19 2011 22:53 GMT
#5296
On November 20 2011 07:50 synaptik wrote:
i hope nestea crushes naniwa for all calling him idiotic after the invitational


If NesTea doesn't play in the dark like he did before and skip the brain farts then yeah, I don't like Nani's chances of beating him back-to-back in Bo3's.

The last Bo3 was very unorthodox and both played incredibly risky.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
November 19 2011 22:53 GMT
#5297
On November 20 2011 07:50 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 07:42 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:40 hugman wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:40 Warrior Madness wrote:
What exactly did naniwa say after his wins yesterday? I missed that.


he said nestea was an idiot for sending all his drones on taldarim

He also said that Nestea's ZVP was much worse than any number of other korean zergs with Check having the strongest one.


Check with the strongest...HAHAHAHAHAHA. But that's not what he said.


I believe Check has always had quite strong ZvP, though I don't think I would say it is the strongest. So while I'm not sure I would agree (because I obviously don't have first hand experience, or seen enough games) I don't think it is too far out there... especially since Check dropped down from ZvT and ZvZ from what I remember.
ray7792
Profile Joined September 2010
United States7 Posts
November 19 2011 22:53 GMT
#5298
On November 20 2011 07:50 Cinim wrote:
Just me who is really annoyed about how unproffesional MLG is on their streams etc. ?? I means.. they must have like almost 10 games to choose from atm and it's the same 2 matches on the 2 main streams.. so unproffesional. They did so many mistakes and they admitted it before, but when are they going to correct things like this? (


I'm actually glad they are only have 1 match on both streams. Each one of these games are so awesome, I would hate to have to pick between them. Although...ya atm both main streams are crowd shots but violet vs jinro is pretty damn sick on beta2
Wotamin, nagi
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
November 19 2011 22:53 GMT
#5299
On November 20 2011 07:49 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 07:46 trucane wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:43 ch33psh33p wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:42 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:40 hugman wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:40 Warrior Madness wrote:
What exactly did naniwa say after his wins yesterday? I missed that.


he said nestea was an idiot for sending all his drones on taldarim

He also said that Nestea's ZVP was much worse than any number of other korean zergs with Check having the strongest one.


The fact that Naniwa thinks Check has the best ZvP just shows how much shit he's spewing.

Its Coca, and its not even close.


I'm fairly certain that naniwa who is playing several hours in korea every single day has a better understanding on who has the better ZvP than you do

Then how about the Koreans like Oz who say CoCa is the best. I'm sure the Koreans know better than Naniwa.

CoCa has a 100% winrate vP in GSL for a reason.


He was clearly struggling with remember the names when answering that question. He never said anything about Coca so it's very possible he either haven't watch/played him much or just didn't remember to mention him. People act like Naniwa has wrote an essay on the matter.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
November 19 2011 22:53 GMT
#5300
On November 20 2011 07:51 SeaSwift wrote:
Naniwa calling Nestea an idiot was clearly not entirely serious. And I'm amazed people are bringing up Major and relating it to Naniwa.

nani clearly isn't BM like Major is any more.


Not sure, you make jokes if you are talking to a friend or a team mate, but not to somebody you have no ties to.
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