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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 22:51:23
November 19 2011 22:50 GMT
#5261
On November 20 2011 07:42 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
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On November 20 2011 07:40 hugman wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:40 Warrior Madness wrote:
What exactly did naniwa say after his wins yesterday? I missed that.


he said nestea was an idiot for sending all his drones on taldarim

He also said that Nestea's ZVP was much worse than any number of other korean zergs with Check having the strongest one.


Check with the strongest...HAHAHAHAHAHA. But that's not what he said.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Cinim
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark866 Posts
November 19 2011 22:50 GMT
#5262
Just me who is really annoyed about how unproffesional MLG is on their streams etc. ?? I means.. they must have like almost 10 games to choose from atm and it's the same 2 matches on the 2 main streams.. so unproffesional. They did so many mistakes and they admitted it before, but when are they going to correct things like this? (
Hell, it's about time
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
November 19 2011 22:50 GMT
#5263
On November 20 2011 07:47 SeaSwift wrote:
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On November 20 2011 07:46 trucane wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:43 ch33psh33p wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:42 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:40 hugman wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:40 Warrior Madness wrote:
What exactly did naniwa say after his wins yesterday? I missed that.


he said nestea was an idiot for sending all his drones on taldarim

He also said that Nestea's ZVP was much worse than any number of other korean zergs with Check having the strongest one.


The fact that Naniwa thinks Check has the best ZvP just shows how much shit he's spewing.

Its Coca, and its not even close.


I'm fairly certain that naniwa who is playing several hours in korea every single day has a better understanding on who has the better ZvP than you do


True, but bear in mind that better player =/= better accuracy in statements. Idra is still going on about P being overpowered when they were suffering for months in Korea PvZ.


Sure but to say, as a spectator who's probably in gold, that a pro player is full of shit when someone asks him who he thinks is the best ZvPer is ridiculous. What the fuck makes spectators think they know all about balance and the players so well just from watching a tiny sample of games played?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
November 19 2011 22:51 GMT
#5264
On November 20 2011 07:49 Femari wrote:
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On November 20 2011 07:46 trucane wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:43 ch33psh33p wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:42 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:40 hugman wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:40 Warrior Madness wrote:
What exactly did naniwa say after his wins yesterday? I missed that.


he said nestea was an idiot for sending all his drones on taldarim

He also said that Nestea's ZVP was much worse than any number of other korean zergs with Check having the strongest one.


The fact that Naniwa thinks Check has the best ZvP just shows how much shit he's spewing.

Its Coca, and its not even close.


I'm fairly certain that naniwa who is playing several hours in korea every single day has a better understanding on who has the better ZvP than you do

Then how about the Koreans like Oz who say CoCa is the best. I'm sure the Koreans know better than Naniwa.

CoCa has a 100% winrate vP in GSL for a reason.


Let's leave it at this. The players will practice with players they think are good at the matchup. Enough said.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 19 2011 22:51 GMT
#5265
On November 20 2011 07:50 Eufouria wrote:
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On November 20 2011 07:46 Grettin wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:45 Lunares wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:44 mango_destroyer wrote:
nani so bm i hope nestea beats him


Because he said Nestea doesn't have the best ZvP in Korea? I would agree with that. He has the best ZvZ by far, a great ZvP and a good ZvT but not the "best" in the those last 2.


Not just that, but Nani acts like a brat and is bad mannered in general, has always been, apparently since WC3 also. So he has a point.

He used to be like that, not so much any more, but apparently that was caused by a lot of personal problems he used to have.

Naniwa gets a lot of hate for how blunt he is sometimes, and I can't help but think that's partly to do with the language barrier, his English is good but its not great by any means.


He's still quite BM. He didn't gg in the GSL, and that is the only second time in history and there have been probably a thousand plus games played in the GSL in the last year.
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SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
November 19 2011 22:51 GMT
#5266
Naniwa calling Nestea an idiot was clearly not entirely serious. And I'm amazed people are bringing up Major and relating it to Naniwa.

nani clearly isn't BM like Major is any more.
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
November 19 2011 22:51 GMT
#5267
On November 20 2011 07:48 ch33psh33p wrote:

Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 07:46 trucane wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:43 ch33psh33p wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:42 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:40 hugman wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:40 Warrior Madness wrote:
What exactly did naniwa say after his wins yesterday? I missed that.


he said nestea was an idiot for sending all his drones on taldarim

He also said that Nestea's ZVP was much worse than any number of other korean zergs with Check having the strongest one.


The fact that Naniwa thinks Check has the best ZvP just shows how much shit he's spewing.

Its Coca, and its not even close.


I'm fairly certain that naniwa who is playing several hours in korea every single day has a better understanding on who has the better ZvP than you do

Look at who Naniwa lost to.

HE said what he said to stroke his own ego.

I kind of agree, he also dissed the entire wc3 community despite trying hard to be good at it and never achieving nothing more than being a complete nobody, he even called Grubby, a much smarter player than he will ever be, a mediocre player.
SC2ShoWTimE
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany722 Posts
November 19 2011 22:51 GMT
#5268
i think mc also said that nestea isnt as scary as some other zergs, but as a spectator it´s impossible to tell. we didnt see very much zvp from nestea in gsl.
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
November 19 2011 22:51 GMT
#5269
On November 20 2011 07:50 Lunares wrote:
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On November 20 2011 07:49 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
this is retarded why didn't they show MVP vs MC? godang it

Anyways, what happened with naniwa? (the idiot thing)


They will show MVP vs MC? It's after Hero/Ret (or possible Kiwi vs DRG and then MC vs MVP)


Oh, thanks for replying. I didn't know they would hold up the rounds like that :D
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-19 22:52:11
November 19 2011 22:51 GMT
#5270
On November 20 2011 07:50 nam nam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 07:46 mango_destroyer wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:45 Lunares wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:44 mango_destroyer wrote:
nani so bm i hope nestea beats him


Because he said Nestea doesn't have the best ZvP in Korea? I would agree with that. He has the best ZvZ by far, a great ZvP and a good ZvT but not the "best" in the those last 2.


because he didn`t gg after losing to lucky in gsl which no player has ever done except inca who ended up apologizing quickly afterwards. And calling Nestea an idiot isn`t exactly manner.


I hope you hold Idra to the same standard.


idra GG`d every single game he played in GSL. I am not talking about lesser tournaments.

and yes idra is bm i hope he loses too.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 19 2011 22:51 GMT
#5271
On November 20 2011 07:50 Drazerk wrote:
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On November 20 2011 07:50 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:49 Drazerk wrote:
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On November 20 2011 07:48 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:47 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:47 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:46 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:46 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:46 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

7:30


Tech lab and an armoury for Jinro

Violet is getting a bane ling nest and a roach warren


8:10


Third hatch is up but hellions are harassing


9:00

Mech +1 starting


9:30

Lair on the way for Violet

Siege tech and another factory for Jinro


10:00


Third base on the way for jinro

Evo for Violet


11:00


baneling and roach speed on the way

More factories for Jinro


12:00


Mech weapons +2 starting


12:40


Top left gold being taken for violet


13:10


infestation pit and OL upgrades for Violet


14:00


Third almost goes down for Jinro but he saves it just in time

Blue flame research now starting


15:20


Hive and spire for Violet

Another base on the way for Jinro while getting +3 mech
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
November 19 2011 22:51 GMT
#5272
Lol just saw this Nestea naniwa video. Lol, while naniwa didn't BM nestea or anything he is saying nonesense. nestea and losira have amongst the best PvZ in the world. And lol"All the Z I have lost are better players".

I mean its not much drama per say, but when you see people saying nestea is slumping for:
-Getting RO16 in GSL
-2nd Place at blizzcon
-2nd Place at MLG global invitational

Nestea is amongst the best on the world. And I don't get why naniwa is making a judgement like that when the series they played were reasonable close. Even when nestea droned blindly before his all in he held it off quite a lot.

But oh well, Naniwas opinion.
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37058 Posts
November 19 2011 22:51 GMT
#5273
Oo;; Ret vs HerO?!?!? THAT'S GONNA BE AMAZING!!

Have these two ever faced off against each other before?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17725 Posts
November 19 2011 22:51 GMT
#5274
On November 20 2011 07:49 RaiKageRyu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 07:46 Pipeline wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:39 Fiel wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:39 Eee wrote:
why does the crowd hate Nestea? show some love FFS?
This crowd isent giving a good first impression of an MLG event to Nestea.


The crowd wants a foreigner to win. It's homefield advantage, not that people hate Nestea.


Its still a terrible crowd compared to previous MLG events. Orlando, Dallas, Columbus... I feel bad for Nestea (and the players in general) because the crowd looks lazy and acts lazy ....


Chairs tend to do that for people. I think the best crowd was still at Columbus when they had scarcely any chairs.

chairs are killing esports!
"Expert" mods4ever.com
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 19 2011 22:51 GMT
#5275
Will they show Oz vs Ganzi ?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 19 2011 22:52 GMT
#5276
On November 20 2011 07:51 Drazerk wrote:
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On November 20 2011 07:50 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:50 Drazerk wrote:
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On November 20 2011 07:48 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:47 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:47 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:46 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:46 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

8:10


Third hatch is up but hellions are harassing


9:00

Mech +1 starting


9:30

Lair on the way for Violet

Siege tech and another factory for Jinro


10:00


Third base on the way for jinro

Evo for Violet


11:00


baneling and roach speed on the way

More factories for Jinro


12:00


Mech weapons +2 starting


12:40


Top left gold being taken for violet


13:10


infestation pit and OL upgrades for Violet


14:00


Third almost goes down for Jinro but he saves it just in time

Blue flame research now starting


15:20


Hive and spire for Violet

Another base on the way for Jinro while getting +3 mech


16:00


Drop on the way from Jinro killing a drone
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
November 19 2011 22:52 GMT
#5277
On November 20 2011 07:48 StyLeD wrote:
Lost all respect for Naniwa. Why would you call someone an idiot when you beat them once?

There is a difference in saying pulling drones was idiotic and saying Nestea is an actual idiot.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
November 19 2011 22:52 GMT
#5278
Oh MLG... why do you have a sick lineup with 6 amazing casters and then you only use two of them at a time? Gief MC vs MVP on one of the streams.. Won't manage to stay up to see them fight it out otherwise =(
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
November 19 2011 22:52 GMT
#5279
On November 20 2011 07:50 Cinim wrote:
Just me who is really annoyed about how unproffesional MLG is on their streams etc. ?? I means.. they must have like almost 10 games to choose from atm and it's the same 2 matches on the 2 main streams.. so unproffesional. They did so many mistakes and they admitted it before, but when are they going to correct things like this? (


You mean casters have to take BREAKS? HOLY GOD. They are showing ALL the winners bracket matches. Right now there are only deep losers bracket matches getting played. There are some good matches there (Ganzi vs Oz and Jinro vs Violet, the latter is being casted) but besides that there are no games being played right now to show anyway.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
November 19 2011 22:52 GMT
#5280
On November 20 2011 07:52 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2011 07:51 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:50 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:50 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:49 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:49 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:48 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:47 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:47 Drazerk wrote:
On November 20 2011 07:46 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

9:00

Mech +1 starting


9:30

Lair on the way for Violet

Siege tech and another factory for Jinro


10:00


Third base on the way for jinro

Evo for Violet


11:00


baneling and roach speed on the way

More factories for Jinro


12:00


Mech weapons +2 starting


12:40


Top left gold being taken for violet


13:10


infestation pit and OL upgrades for Violet


14:00


Third almost goes down for Jinro but he saves it just in time

Blue flame research now starting


15:20


Hive and spire for Violet

Another base on the way for Jinro while getting +3 mech


16:00


Drop on the way from Jinro killing a drone


17:00


Lots of currupters in production for Violet
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