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On November 18 2011 12:53 VPCursed wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 12:32 Killerhands wrote:On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it. Cursed... take the fanboy hat off for a second and watch the games... He played SUPER GREEDY and made quite a few poor decisions. Don't use maps as a scapegoat for poor play from one of your favorite players.  fine, TT.. so angry he didnt make it
super greedy? where was stephanos greed? he just lost all games cause he move commands his army into strange positions and played rly poorly lategame, which is usually clearly his strengh. 8 broodlords movecommand into stimmarines? aye, drewbie played that great :D
Games like that happen, ppl who discredit stephano cause of such a stupid bo3 are just the worst anti-fanboys ever. the games do not change the fact that stephano remains top 3 foreiger with idra and huk at all. Every player loses games he shouldnt from time to time, even idra and huk.
I just wanna remind you, that this game was most likely played a day after some event (since we know that was the reason stephano forfeit his WB1 game). Fruthermore, im pretty sure stephano didnt have the time (or didnt care) to even play the maps once. Dont put too much into these games plz, stephano clearly did mistakes he would never do when it matters.
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On November 18 2011 13:05 ChuCky.Ca wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it. Fanboy much
My question would be: who is the fanboy here? youre from canada, drewbie is from canada. I hope you dont believe drewbie could ever win a map from stpehano in a real game that matters on maps that stephano has seen before.
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On November 18 2011 13:11 ThisGS wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 12:53 VPCursed wrote:On November 18 2011 12:32 Killerhands wrote:On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it. Cursed... take the fanboy hat off for a second and watch the games... He played SUPER GREEDY and made quite a few poor decisions. Don't use maps as a scapegoat for poor play from one of your favorite players. fine, TT.. so angry he didnt make it super greedy? where was stephanos greed? he just lost all games cause he move commands his army into strange positions and played rly poorly lategame, which is usually clearly his strengh. 8 broodlords movecommand into stimmarines? aye, drewbie played that great :D Games like that happen, ppl who discredit stephano cause of such a stupid bo3 are just the worst anti-fanboys ever. the games do not change the fact that stephano remains top 3 foreiger with idra and huk at all. Every player loses games he shouldnt from time to time, even idra and huk. I just wanna remind you, that this game was most likely played a day after some event (since we know that was the reason stephano forfeit his WB1 game). Fruthermore, im pretty sure stephano didnt have the time (or didnt care) to even play the maps once. Dont put too much into these games plz, stephano clearly did mistakes he would never do when it matters.
You contradict yourself completely in this post. Stephano played bad, don't make excuses. He's not perfect
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On November 18 2011 13:14 ThisGS wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 13:05 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it. Fanboy much My question would be: who is the fanboy here? youre from canada, drewbie is from canada. I hope you dont believe drewbie could ever win a map from stpehano in a real game that matters on maps that stephano has seen before.
Fanboy much
+ Show Spoiler +Because Drewbie is a pro at those brand new maps comparatively? Seriously, Stephano lost. Get over it. He's not infallible. Did you see him get RAPED on Metalopolis by a joke of a push in the IPL Team Arena, without even winning a single game? He played extremely poorly there too. He's a fantastic player, but it's just plain silly to think that he could never lose. He's even lost to Goody before, so he could surely lose to Drewbie. Stranger things have happened.
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On November 18 2011 13:14 ThisGS wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 13:05 ChuCky.Ca wrote:On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it. Fanboy much My question would be: who is the fanboy here? youre from canada, drewbie is from canada. I hope you dont believe drewbie could ever win a map from stpehano in a real game that matters on maps that stephano has seen before.
Who the fuck said Im a Drewbie fan just cause Im from Canada that is kinda fucked up of a thing to say weird. why are you standing up for Stephano you shouldn't be hes from France your from Germany by your logic that cant happen. you must only like TLO and Goody
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LOL Stephano fanboys making up excuses for why he lost? How sad and yet predictable.
He got whooped, get over it. It happens to all good players.
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Relax, I actually think this guy has a point. It's just weird to use new maps in a qualification tournament for a big event, because the results will be somewhat random, since nobody knows how to play on those maps. It's just easier for a weaker player to win IN GENERAL. And since they won't use those maps in the finals, I don't see why you would use them in the qualification-tournament...
It feels like the NASL just wanted to try those maps in competitive play, but they should have used a separate tournament for this...
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On November 18 2011 13:11 ThisGS wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 12:53 VPCursed wrote:On November 18 2011 12:32 Killerhands wrote:On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it. Cursed... take the fanboy hat off for a second and watch the games... He played SUPER GREEDY and made quite a few poor decisions. Don't use maps as a scapegoat for poor play from one of your favorite players. fine, TT.. so angry he didnt make it super greedy? where was stephanos greed? he just lost all games cause he move commands his army into strange positions and played rly poorly lategame, which is usually clearly his strengh. 8 broodlords movecommand into stimmarines? aye, drewbie played that great :D Games like that happen, ppl who discredit stephano cause of such a stupid bo3 are just the worst anti-fanboys ever. the games do not change the fact that stephano remains top 3 foreiger with idra and huk at all. Every player loses games he shouldnt from time to time, even idra and huk. I just wanna remind you, that this game was most likely played a day after some event (since we know that was the reason stephano forfeit his WB1 game). Fruthermore, im pretty sure stephano didnt have the time (or didnt care) to even play the maps once. Dont put too much into these games plz, stephano clearly did mistakes he would never do when it matters.
you've only joined TL for a month and you are already behaving like this. nobody is discrediting stephano, people just pointed that he played bad and deserved to lose. but you storm in with the most typical fanboy-ish defence: 1. he's /still/ top X player in the world 2. it's just random bo3 3. didn't care or have time. cmon. you can do so much better than that.
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Am I allowed to post about HoN in this thread? If no then I'll delete this post.
This HoN game is too similar to Dota, like, pointlessly similiar in every aspect. Why the hell did they make it like this? LoL is a game on its own, with similar concepts but very different gameplay and it's own flavor. HoN is a carbon copy of Dota, why bother?
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On November 18 2011 14:34 nokz88 wrote:
Am I allowed to post about HoN in this thread? If no then I'll delete this post.
This HoN game is too similar to Dota, like, pointlessly similiar in every aspect. Why the hell did they make it like this? LoL is a game on its own, with similar concepts but very different gameplay and it's own flavor. HoN is a carbon copy of Dota, why bother?
Cant wait to see your reaction when you see DotA 2.
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What's up with the coverage? Impossible to find out about results. Every bracket I've looked at (binarybeast & liquipedia amongst others) is lacking alot.
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On November 18 2011 14:59 Sea_Food wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 14:34 nokz88 wrote:
Am I allowed to post about HoN in this thread? If no then I'll delete this post.
This HoN game is too similar to Dota, like, pointlessly similiar in every aspect. Why the hell did they make it like this? LoL is a game on its own, with similar concepts but very different gameplay and it's own flavor. HoN is a carbon copy of Dota, why bother? Cant wait to see your reaction when you see DotA 2.
Except Dota 2 is suppose to be a carbon copy of dota since IceFrog is working on it, the current maker of dota.
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Singapore20 Posts
What I have learned from Day9 is: "good player" and "good play" are two different things.
Stephano is a (very?) good player, but he play terribly in this tourney, Drewbie deserved his win...
Please take a look at MC, he's one of the best Protoss player out there, but sometimes I can see that he play horribly bad...
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Grubby. 
Somewhat disappointing results today.
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On November 18 2011 14:33 Doraemon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 13:11 ThisGS wrote:On November 18 2011 12:53 VPCursed wrote:On November 18 2011 12:32 Killerhands wrote:On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it. Cursed... take the fanboy hat off for a second and watch the games... He played SUPER GREEDY and made quite a few poor decisions. Don't use maps as a scapegoat for poor play from one of your favorite players. fine, TT.. so angry he didnt make it super greedy? where was stephanos greed? he just lost all games cause he move commands his army into strange positions and played rly poorly lategame, which is usually clearly his strengh. 8 broodlords movecommand into stimmarines? aye, drewbie played that great :D Games like that happen, ppl who discredit stephano cause of such a stupid bo3 are just the worst anti-fanboys ever. the games do not change the fact that stephano remains top 3 foreiger with idra and huk at all. Every player loses games he shouldnt from time to time, even idra and huk. I just wanna remind you, that this game was most likely played a day after some event (since we know that was the reason stephano forfeit his WB1 game). Fruthermore, im pretty sure stephano didnt have the time (or didnt care) to even play the maps once. Dont put too much into these games plz, stephano clearly did mistakes he would never do when it matters. you've only joined TL for a month and you are already behaving like this. nobody is discrediting stephano, people just pointed that he played bad and deserved to lose. but you storm in with the most typical fanboy-ish defence: 1. he's /still/ top X player in the world 2. it's just random bo3 3. didn't care or have time. cmon. you can do so much better than that.
you kidding right ? after his IPL3 victory a bunch of posts saying his victory wasnt great beacause he didnt have to face good players, for ESWC he could hear french casters, his victory over markineking was beacause mkp played bad. there are plenty more (boxer at mlg, the stc...) Stephano is the most hated succeful player of all the sc2 scene. and nobody stated he cannot loose a game at all. remember IEM Ny Gatored 3-0 top and 2-1 DRG in the groupstage, nobody can always win. and there is no so called stephano "fanboys" or other players who said that once
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On November 18 2011 14:28 Awesomeness wrote:
Relax, I actually think this guy has a point. It's just weird to use new maps in a qualification tournament for a big event, because the results will be somewhat random, since nobody knows how to play on those maps. It's just easier for a weaker player to win IN GENERAL. And since they won't use those maps in the finals, I don't see why you would use them in the qualification-tournament...
It feels like the NASL just wanted to try those maps in competitive play, but they should have used a separate tournament for this...
This happened in broodwar too. People bitching about new maps. Thank god the organizers are thinking about the long term instead of the short term like most fans otherwise it would take forever to get balanced maps. To host a different tournament just to test new maps is a great idea but not many organizations can justify making a new random tourney that most good players will ignore. That's a lot of time and organization. The players will thank them later when we actually have a decent map pool.
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On November 18 2011 14:34 nokz88 wrote:
Am I allowed to post about HoN in this thread? If no then I'll delete this post.
This HoN game is too similar to Dota, like, pointlessly similiar in every aspect. Why the hell did they make it like this? LoL is a game on its own, with similar concepts but very different gameplay and it's own flavor. HoN is a carbon copy of Dota, why bother?
This has been argued to death, on both sides, last year.
Ever since HoN started adding it's own heroes and map / item tweaks to this day it has progressed into a game of it's own already.
If you're honestly just stumbling upon it NOW, and want to know more feel free to PM me. But if this post is just a way of you bashing HoN then it's time you move on really.
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On November 18 2011 18:44 JohnMatrix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 14:33 Doraemon wrote:On November 18 2011 13:11 ThisGS wrote:On November 18 2011 12:53 VPCursed wrote:On November 18 2011 12:32 Killerhands wrote:On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it. Cursed... take the fanboy hat off for a second and watch the games... He played SUPER GREEDY and made quite a few poor decisions. Don't use maps as a scapegoat for poor play from one of your favorite players. fine, TT.. so angry he didnt make it super greedy? where was stephanos greed? he just lost all games cause he move commands his army into strange positions and played rly poorly lategame, which is usually clearly his strengh. 8 broodlords movecommand into stimmarines? aye, drewbie played that great :D Games like that happen, ppl who discredit stephano cause of such a stupid bo3 are just the worst anti-fanboys ever. the games do not change the fact that stephano remains top 3 foreiger with idra and huk at all. Every player loses games he shouldnt from time to time, even idra and huk. I just wanna remind you, that this game was most likely played a day after some event (since we know that was the reason stephano forfeit his WB1 game). Fruthermore, im pretty sure stephano didnt have the time (or didnt care) to even play the maps once. Dont put too much into these games plz, stephano clearly did mistakes he would never do when it matters. you've only joined TL for a month and you are already behaving like this. nobody is discrediting stephano, people just pointed that he played bad and deserved to lose. but you storm in with the most typical fanboy-ish defence: 1. he's /still/ top X player in the world 2. it's just random bo3 3. didn't care or have time. cmon. you can do so much better than that. you kidding right ? after his IPL3 victory a bunch of posts saying his victory wasnt great beacause he didnt have to face good players, for ESWC he could hear french casters, his victory over markineking was beacause mkp played bad. there are plenty more (boxer at mlg, the stc...) Stephano is the most hated succeful player of all the sc2 scene. and nobody stated he cannot loose a game at all. remember IEM Ny Gatored 3-0 top and 2-1 DRG in the groupstage, nobody can always win. and there is no so called stephano "fanboys" or other players who said that once
I seriously doubt that.
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On November 18 2011 19:00 nam nam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 18:44 JohnMatrix wrote:On November 18 2011 14:33 Doraemon wrote:On November 18 2011 13:11 ThisGS wrote:On November 18 2011 12:53 VPCursed wrote:On November 18 2011 12:32 Killerhands wrote:On November 18 2011 12:29 VPCursed wrote:
drewbie beating stephano?
no offense to NASL or drewbie but.. really? Do you guys really have to have fucking unknown maps for a buy in tourney. If you want to test maps find another place to do it. Cursed... take the fanboy hat off for a second and watch the games... He played SUPER GREEDY and made quite a few poor decisions. Don't use maps as a scapegoat for poor play from one of your favorite players. fine, TT.. so angry he didnt make it super greedy? where was stephanos greed? he just lost all games cause he move commands his army into strange positions and played rly poorly lategame, which is usually clearly his strengh. 8 broodlords movecommand into stimmarines? aye, drewbie played that great :D Games like that happen, ppl who discredit stephano cause of such a stupid bo3 are just the worst anti-fanboys ever. the games do not change the fact that stephano remains top 3 foreiger with idra and huk at all. Every player loses games he shouldnt from time to time, even idra and huk. I just wanna remind you, that this game was most likely played a day after some event (since we know that was the reason stephano forfeit his WB1 game). Fruthermore, im pretty sure stephano didnt have the time (or didnt care) to even play the maps once. Dont put too much into these games plz, stephano clearly did mistakes he would never do when it matters. you've only joined TL for a month and you are already behaving like this. nobody is discrediting stephano, people just pointed that he played bad and deserved to lose. but you storm in with the most typical fanboy-ish defence: 1. he's /still/ top X player in the world 2. it's just random bo3 3. didn't care or have time. cmon. you can do so much better than that. you kidding right ? after his IPL3 victory a bunch of posts saying his victory wasnt great beacause he didnt have to face good players, for ESWC he could hear french casters, his victory over markineking was beacause mkp played bad. there are plenty more (boxer at mlg, the stc...) Stephano is the most hated succeful player of all the sc2 scene. and nobody stated he cannot loose a game at all. remember IEM Ny Gatored 3-0 top and 2-1 DRG in the groupstage, nobody can always win. and there is no so called stephano "fanboys" or other players who said that once I seriously doubt that.
Cue Idra
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everyone has their slumps; and what we all learned is that LAN play is different from online play.
koreans always get a power up at LAN play; LANS are the only thing that matter anyway.
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