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On November 15 2011 09:22 nufcrulz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 04:09 Derez wrote:On November 15 2011 03:42 aisight wrote:On November 15 2011 03:35 nofacej wrote:On November 15 2011 03:09 aisight wrote:On November 15 2011 03:00 leungwk01 wrote:
Also, there should be a limit on the amount of times you can get into GSL using the MLG system. I agree, Koreans should also only be allowed to enter the qualifiers so many times before having to travel to America and compete in MLG to get into the GSL. Who is going to fund the trips of all of these unknown Korean players? No idea, but if we're going to force US/EU players to attempt to qualify for GSL from Korea, then it's only fair that Koreans have to then attempt to qualify from the US. Obviously the same thing. Seeing how the actual GSL tournament is actually held in Korea and all that. The fairer comparison would be koreans having to show up to MLG without the league exchange program, which they're doing already. I don't see many foreigners moving to korea and fighting their way through code B (is carn still there?). The point the first poster was making that it might not be entirely fair to koreans to keep sending MLG no. 9, no. 15 and no. 27 to code A, who then lose in the first round but yet get seeded again next code A season. I don't think its an unreasonable assesment of what gom is doing, they're blatantly favouring foreigners over arguably better Korean players that get held down in code B. A foreigner can show up to the code B qualifiers just like anyone else, and if you're actually living in Korea already, there's a lot to be said for a player making it on his own merits into code A instead of charity. Not sure if that implies that there needs to be a limit, but let's face it, at this point any foreigner in the top 25ish at an MLG can raise his hand saying he wants a free trip to korea. seriously youre going with this argument? it's easier for Koreans to show up to MLG who arent in the league exchange program because its only a weekend tournament. It's easy to just drop whatever you're doing and go somewhere for the weekend. But if they come to play in Code A, that's potentially a whole month in which they're going to stay in Korea. I'm fine with the current system. I actually feel they should give more code A seeds to foreigners. Like 3-4 in the up and downs plus 4 in Code A RO48
I believe quality of the players should take precedence over time constraints.
First and foremost, the tournaments should cater to the customers who pay for seasonal tickets rather than to players. I pay to see the highest quality games.
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On November 15 2011 04:09 tuho12345 wrote:Sad for SaSe/Nani and Sage. Especially for Sase and Nani, Sase has one of the best PvP in MLG and then suddenly fell off the chair lost 0-4 against Nani in MLG Global and now 0-2 vs JYP who is bad at PvP. Nani played the first game so beautiful. But man BLs is like pain in the ass, I don't even know how to stop them at all. Feel bad for him, Zerg's deathball > Protoss deathball for sure  Oh and Sage was just trying to be too cute in game 2. Forgg is pretty sick good, I can see him in code S next ss for sure, and winning GSL vs MVP in just a couple months.
you gotta be joking
JYP PvP is bad ?
LMAO
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Just watched the games, the QQ in this thread is seriously stupid, Naniwa was only 3 base for way too long and he tried to fight 12 brood lords with pure blink stalker, which is NEVER a good idea against that many broods (Unless you have 50+ stalkers).
Sad he got knocked out, it really sucks that him and Sase haven't done anything of note yet in Code A .
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On November 15 2011 03:42 aisight wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 03:35 nofacej wrote:On November 15 2011 03:09 aisight wrote:On November 15 2011 03:00 leungwk01 wrote:
Also, there should be a limit on the amount of times you can get into GSL using the MLG system. I agree, Koreans should also only be allowed to enter the qualifiers so many times before having to travel to America and compete in MLG to get into the GSL. Who is going to fund the trips of all of these unknown Korean players? No idea, but if we're going to force US/EU players to attempt to qualify for GSL from Korea, then it's only fair that Koreans have to then attempt to qualify from the US.
Are you serious? Lots of Koreans do fly over into the open bracket, and there's a huge difference between having the 20th place at MLg go to Korea since everyone declined than getting a top Korean invites to MLG. MLG greatly benefits from Korean exposure while gsl does benefit from more foreign viewership it's not helping to have them repeatedly failing in round 1
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On November 15 2011 09:22 nufcrulz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 04:09 Derez wrote:On November 15 2011 03:42 aisight wrote:On November 15 2011 03:35 nofacej wrote:On November 15 2011 03:09 aisight wrote:On November 15 2011 03:00 leungwk01 wrote:
Also, there should be a limit on the amount of times you can get into GSL using the MLG system. I agree, Koreans should also only be allowed to enter the qualifiers so many times before having to travel to America and compete in MLG to get into the GSL. Who is going to fund the trips of all of these unknown Korean players? No idea, but if we're going to force US/EU players to attempt to qualify for GSL from Korea, then it's only fair that Koreans have to then attempt to qualify from the US. Obviously the same thing. Seeing how the actual GSL tournament is actually held in Korea and all that. The fairer comparison would be koreans having to show up to MLG without the league exchange program, which they're doing already. I don't see many foreigners moving to korea and fighting their way through code B (is carn still there?). The point the first poster was making that it might not be entirely fair to koreans to keep sending MLG no. 9, no. 15 and no. 27 to code A, who then lose in the first round but yet get seeded again next code A season. I don't think its an unreasonable assesment of what gom is doing, they're blatantly favouring foreigners over arguably better Korean players that get held down in code B. A foreigner can show up to the code B qualifiers just like anyone else, and if you're actually living in Korea already, there's a lot to be said for a player making it on his own merits into code A instead of charity. Not sure if that implies that there needs to be a limit, but let's face it, at this point any foreigner in the top 25ish at an MLG can raise his hand saying he wants a free trip to korea. seriously youre going with this argument? it's easier for Koreans to show up to MLG who arent in the league exchange program because its only a weekend tournament. It's easy to just drop whatever you're doing and go somewhere for the weekend. But if they come to play in Code A, that's potentially a whole month in which they're going to stay in Korea. I'm fine with the current system. I actually feel they should give more code A seeds to foreigners. Like 3-4 in the up and downs plus 4 in Code A RO48
That's way extreme. From the way things are going we'd be lucky to get that many foreigners who can hold their own in just code A in a year. If you do it every season the foreigner seeds will continue to be thrown away.
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WOOHOOOOO! All my liquibets correct except Select and Tassadar, and I only bet Select cause I'm a bit of a fanboy and thought that he had the heart to win it. Oops! lol knew I shoulda gone with Tassadar! Looking forward to getting home tonight and watching some of these sets, namely fOrGG vs Sage and JYP vs SaSe. Poor Nani
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On November 15 2011 09:53 Kipsate wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GaZkI.jpg) Fuck yeah. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7YC0R.jpg) He is coming to get it.
![[image loading]](http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs139.snc1/5936_803298121969_842572_46815096_5976090_n.jpg)
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I was rewatching the vods on some chinese website with the GOM commentators for china...I can only understand maybe 25% of what they say but they are not bad really, and quite funny.
Although Sage's APM is equivalent or even higher than forgg, I think his useful APM is much lower...
Start watching around 10:30 in, Sage makes his second push towards the third of ForGG but has only 1 storm left, forGG dodges the worst of it and kites the zealots...before Sage warps in a second round of zealots. Then ForGG makes the clutch decision to pull scvs and cleans up the attack, after which Sage floats a fair bit and cannot keep up with macro.
Then he tries another warp in at the back which forGG cleans up with kiting, all the time maintaining consistent macro, but Sage isn't producing much again...in the meantime forGG is also pushing his main ball to Sage's nat.
It was a very good timing to hit actually because Sage had not been making stuff and because the robo bay was in his nat for some reason...it could have been scanned prior to that and forGG promptly sniped it. After that it was just a regular bigger ball vs smaller ball sc2 encounter.
IMO using "special tactics" (lol) is good, but you must also have the efficient APM to keep up everything else, or it is useless. Or else you will lose to good defence/multitasking and ordinary macro play.
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how did i know forGG hot progamer chicks photos would appear in this thread. LOL i'm surprised it took this long.
awesome games last night, sucks for the foreigners, but naniwa did exceptionally well, he just needed that last tech switch to help him in the end against the blords. Not to take away from lucky either, he played phenomenally, those transfuses were beautiful
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On November 15 2011 03:41 Poopi wrote:
I'm so scared for Polt.
I didn't see fOrGG's games but I know that he will destroy everyone, especially in TvT.
Polt is freakin' amazing tho, so he should stop fOrGG this season.
polt is known for his timing attacks in sc2. it would an interesting battle between 2 timing attackers.
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better luck foreigners
:/
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Couldn't watch any of the wolf commentated VOD's. Quality was so poor that it hurt my ears. Very disappointing, unacceptable Gomtv
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fOrGG taking no prisoners BW style. Hope to see him in Code S Ro4 in a few seasons.
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On November 15 2011 10:51 OopsOopsBaby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 03:41 Poopi wrote:
I'm so scared for Polt.
I didn't see fOrGG's games but I know that he will destroy everyone, especially in TvT.
Polt is freakin' amazing tho, so he should stop fOrGG this season. polt is known for his timing attacks in sc2. it would an interesting battle between 2 timing attackers.
Blizzard pathing will cause the timing attacks to become base trades :D
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I want Sase to win so badly at GSL
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I can't say I'm surprised to see Forgg stomp 2-0, but I am very happy =)
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I've been gone for a few days, but these results are hilarious. Top foreign players stepping up I see.
At least ForGG and Nada won.
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goddamnit, terrans are still always winning vs protosses, we need some new sick protoss
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On November 15 2011 07:43 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK PROTOSS GETTING KNOCKED OUT
Fuck fuck FUCK
Genius made it through but
HongUn, Ensnare, Sage, even Naniwa got knocked out? FUCK!
At least we still have JYP :D
also, damn forgg must be really good...
and i don't really care that much for soccer sorry, nada and soccer used to be on same team anyways, i'd take nada over soccer xD
Ensnare plays Terran.
Terran up
Good games. Rooting for ForGG but torn between polt and him. ah, decisions.
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EPT
