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zxdyn
Profile Joined May 2010
United States23 Posts
November 12 2011 14:07 GMT
#101
nice game!!
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 17:23:31
November 12 2011 14:10 GMT
#102
(T)Läjten in red at 5, (Z)DaSakura in blue at 11. dasakura hatch first, and laejten drops a bunker in the nat mineral line off an otherwise standard opening. the canadian pulsl only 2 drones to chase away the scv, 1 of those turned into a spine crawler. the marine arrives at the zerg nat and runs straight into the bunker - 6 spawned lings weren't in time. laejten addsa factory, and the spine crawler finishes and starts poking away at the bunker. the scv is barely alive to repair, but the lings swarm in and eliminate the bunker before it can even be salvaged. laejten building a cc in base and floats her factory over to land on the soon-completed reactor.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
SilverLeagueElite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States626 Posts
November 12 2011 14:11 GMT
#103
On November 12 2011 22:27 artynko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 22:19 namste wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:17 baal80 wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:14 artynko wrote:
Love how they are overplaying all the girly stuff. Had this been done in more "serious" manner people would be complaining about the quality all the time.

Well... what can you really say about the quality apart from that it's just awful?


Also can't complain about quality of the gameplay because that's a taboo when it comes to female gaming.

There is no benchmark of what is a high level for woman yet. It is like we are comparing men tennis to woman tennis, women are awful when compared to men. And yet still theirs tourneys are arguably more fun to watch then men.

Starcraft 2 is mostly cerebral so there is nothing preventing women from playing at the level of other top players. When watching pixels being pushed around, nothing differentiates them from other players except their gender. To have separate benchmarks for men & women makes me uncomfortable.
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
November 12 2011 14:12 GMT
#104
"you were sleeping in the same bed?!" "OH LOOK AT THAT EVO CHAMBER"

awkward :D
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
November 12 2011 14:12 GMT
#105
On November 12 2011 23:11 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 22:27 artynko wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:19 namste wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:17 baal80 wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:14 artynko wrote:
Love how they are overplaying all the girly stuff. Had this been done in more "serious" manner people would be complaining about the quality all the time.

Well... what can you really say about the quality apart from that it's just awful?


Also can't complain about quality of the gameplay because that's a taboo when it comes to female gaming.

There is no benchmark of what is a high level for woman yet. It is like we are comparing men tennis to woman tennis, women are awful when compared to men. And yet still theirs tourneys are arguably more fun to watch then men.

Starcraft 2 is mostly cerebral so there is nothing preventing women from playing at the level of other top players. When watching pixels being pushed around, nothing differentiates them from other players except their gender. To have separate benchmarks for men & women makes me uncomfortable.


Let's not go there. I think this topic has been discussed enough on this site already, just enjoy the tournament.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 09:07:41
November 12 2011 14:14 GMT
#106
On November 12 2011 23:10 Antoine wrote:
(T)Läjten in red at 5, (Z)DaSakura in blue at 11. dasakura hatch first, and laejten drops a bunker in the nat mineral line off an otherwise standard opening. the canadian pulsl only 2 drones to chase away the scv, 1 of those turned into a spine crawler. the marine arrives at the zerg nat and runs straight into the bunker - 6 spawned lings weren't in time. laejten addsa factory, and the spine crawler finishes and starts poking away at the bunker. the scv is barely alive to repair, but the lings swarm in and eliminate the bunker before it can even be salvaged. laejten building a cc in base and floats her factory over to land on the soon-completed reactor.

dasakura adding a pair of evo chambers while laejten starts stim and an ebay. dasakura also adding a baneling nest, at the same time laejten tries to poke in with 5 hellions but the simcity in the zerg natural easily defends that. laejten's oc has landed in the nat and she starts some turrets. dasakura 's lair tech is done just before +1 attack and just as +1 ground carapace is starting. laejeten does a good job of preventing creep spread with that hellion force but loses 1 of those hellions to a huge swarm of lings. dasakura starts her 3rd and baneling speed while laejten moves into tank, also starting her 3rd. dasakura continuing with teh upgrades and plops down the infestor pit.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
ThinJ
Profile Joined April 2011
United States58 Posts
November 12 2011 14:17 GMT
#107
Man they're really playing up the girly angle. I feel like that's kind of marginalizing what's otherwise a decent little tournament.

I guess we don't need to talk about the stream quality anymore. If I was a sponsor I'd be pretty upset how choppy the games are though.
Mostly a lurker.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 09:08:04
November 12 2011 14:18 GMT
#108
On November 12 2011 23:14 Antoine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 23:10 Antoine wrote:
(T)Läjten in red at 5, (Z)DaSakura in blue at 11. dasakura hatch first, and laejten drops a bunker in the nat mineral line off an otherwise standard opening. the canadian pulsl only 2 drones to chase away the scv, 1 of those turned into a spine crawler. the marine arrives at the zerg nat and runs straight into the bunker - 6 spawned lings weren't in time. laejten addsa factory, and the spine crawler finishes and starts poking away at the bunker. the scv is barely alive to repair, but the lings swarm in and eliminate the bunker before it can even be salvaged. laejten building a cc in base and floats her factory over to land on the soon-completed reactor.

dasakura adding a pair of evo chambers while laejten starts stim and an ebay. dasakura also adding a baneling nest, at the same time laejten tries to poke in with 5 hellions but the simcity in the zerg natural easily defends that. laejten's oc has landed in the nat and she starts some turrets. dasakura 's lair tech is done just before +1 attack and just as +1 ground carapace is starting. laejeten does a good job of preventing creep spread with that hellion force but loses 1 of those hellions to a huge swarm of lings. dasakura starts her 3rd and baneling speed while laejten moves into tank, also starting her 3rd. dasakura continuing with teh upgrades and plops down the infestor pit.

laejten's blue flame completes about the same time as dasakura's pathogen glands completes. dasakura runs a force of lings and banes into laejten's camp outside the terran 3rd, but the outcome isn't much for either side to write home about. dasakura does have a more forward match presence, and takes the previously gold middle base, easily dismantling the small terran group iat the xel'naga.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
BlazingGlory
Profile Joined February 2010
Bulgaria855 Posts
November 12 2011 14:20 GMT
#109
On November 12 2011 23:11 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 22:27 artynko wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:19 namste wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:17 baal80 wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:14 artynko wrote:
Love how they are overplaying all the girly stuff. Had this been done in more "serious" manner people would be complaining about the quality all the time.

Well... what can you really say about the quality apart from that it's just awful?


Also can't complain about quality of the gameplay because that's a taboo when it comes to female gaming.

There is no benchmark of what is a high level for woman yet. It is like we are comparing men tennis to woman tennis, women are awful when compared to men. And yet still theirs tourneys are arguably more fun to watch then men.

Starcraft 2 is mostly cerebral so there is nothing preventing women from playing at the level of other top players. When watching pixels being pushed around, nothing differentiates them from other players except their gender. To have separate benchmarks for men & women makes me uncomfortable.


Women dont fare too well in chess too. We wont get a female pro-gamer any time soon. Maybe when some serious human-enhancement project is employed.
Nevertheless i enjoy the tournament so far and i have nothing to complain.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-13 09:08:21
November 12 2011 14:21 GMT
#110
On November 12 2011 23:18 Antoine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 23:14 Antoine wrote:
On November 12 2011 23:10 Antoine wrote:
(T)Läjten in red at 5, (Z)DaSakura in blue at 11. dasakura hatch first, and laejten drops a bunker in the nat mineral line off an otherwise standard opening. the canadian pulsl only 2 drones to chase away the scv, 1 of those turned into a spine crawler. the marine arrives at the zerg nat and runs straight into the bunker - 6 spawned lings weren't in time. laejten addsa factory, and the spine crawler finishes and starts poking away at the bunker. the scv is barely alive to repair, but the lings swarm in and eliminate the bunker before it can even be salvaged. laejten building a cc in base and floats her factory over to land on the soon-completed reactor.

dasakura adding a pair of evo chambers while laejten starts stim and an ebay. dasakura also adding a baneling nest, at the same time laejten tries to poke in with 5 hellions but the simcity in the zerg natural easily defends that. laejten's oc has landed in the nat and she starts some turrets. dasakura 's lair tech is done just before +1 attack and just as +1 ground carapace is starting. laejeten does a good job of preventing creep spread with that hellion force but loses 1 of those hellions to a huge swarm of lings. dasakura starts her 3rd and baneling speed while laejten moves into tank, also starting her 3rd. dasakura continuing with teh upgrades and plops down the infestor pit.

laejten's blue flame completes about the same time as dasakura's pathogen glands completes. dasakura runs a force of lings and banes into laejten's camp outside the terran 3rd, but the outcome isn't much for either side to write home about. dasakura does have a more forward match presence, and takes the previously gold middle base, easily dismantling the small terran group iat the xel'naga.

dasakura nearing a maxed army of banes lings and infestors. laejten drops marines and hellions in the main, but decent overlord placement limits the damage. ulralisk spotted, with ultra upgrades finishing. laejten at 165 when dasakura remaxes on banes infestors lings and a few ultras. the terran mech army is somewhat low on upgrades, with a 2nd armory just finishing. laejten tries to move forward to take out the zerg fourth but the zerg attacks traight across the center, bypassing many of the tanks and rolling over the terran force. the zerg continues to swarm all the way into the natural, with decent tank spread from the swede eliminating a lot of the force but dasakura's superior economy keeps her near max and her army is still ramapaging in the terran nat. laejten ggs.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
November 12 2011 14:22 GMT
#111
Sakura basically won that on upgrades alone.

The stream is still choppy tonight but at least it's watchable.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
rushian
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom568 Posts
November 12 2011 14:25 GMT
#112
DaSakura looks like a really sound allround plyer
"Love every protoss unit" - oGsMC
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
November 12 2011 14:26 GMT
#113
On November 12 2011 23:20 BlazingGlory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 23:11 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:27 artynko wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:19 namste wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:17 baal80 wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:14 artynko wrote:
Love how they are overplaying all the girly stuff. Had this been done in more "serious" manner people would be complaining about the quality all the time.

Well... what can you really say about the quality apart from that it's just awful?


Also can't complain about quality of the gameplay because that's a taboo when it comes to female gaming.

There is no benchmark of what is a high level for woman yet. It is like we are comparing men tennis to woman tennis, women are awful when compared to men. And yet still theirs tourneys are arguably more fun to watch then men.

Starcraft 2 is mostly cerebral so there is nothing preventing women from playing at the level of other top players. When watching pixels being pushed around, nothing differentiates them from other players except their gender. To have separate benchmarks for men & women makes me uncomfortable.


Women dont fare too well in chess too. We wont get a female pro-gamer any time soon. Maybe when some serious human-enhancement project is employed.
Nevertheless i enjoy the tournament so far and i have nothing to complain.


Women don't fare well against men in ANY game, competition, sport (no hate, just fact) whatever so i don't personally understand why sc2 should be any different.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 12 2011 14:28 GMT
#114
The stream is choppy and the games aren't great, but hey, Kelly's casting partner is cute and is nice when she giggles.

I am just picturing Tastosis casting this tournament. I would pay to see that. Artosis would blow a gasket by set three.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
November 12 2011 14:29 GMT
#115
Yeah the casters are cute, not as cute as tastosis but satisfyingly cute nonetheless. Damn shame about the stream today as well too tho :/
SilverLeagueElite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States626 Posts
November 12 2011 14:30 GMT
#116
On November 12 2011 23:20 BlazingGlory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 23:11 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:27 artynko wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:19 namste wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:17 baal80 wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:14 artynko wrote:
Love how they are overplaying all the girly stuff. Had this been done in more "serious" manner people would be complaining about the quality all the time.

Well... what can you really say about the quality apart from that it's just awful?


Also can't complain about quality of the gameplay because that's a taboo when it comes to female gaming.

There is no benchmark of what is a high level for woman yet. It is like we are comparing men tennis to woman tennis, women are awful when compared to men. And yet still theirs tourneys are arguably more fun to watch then men.

Starcraft 2 is mostly cerebral so there is nothing preventing women from playing at the level of other top players. When watching pixels being pushed around, nothing differentiates them from other players except their gender. To have separate benchmarks for men & women makes me uncomfortable.


Women dont fare too well in chess too. We wont get a female pro-gamer any time soon. Maybe when some serious human-enhancement project is employed.
Nevertheless i enjoy the tournament so far and i have nothing to complain.

Of course none of this prevents me from enjoying the tournament. Without getting too much into this, women can play at the top level in chess (Judit Polgar).
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
November 12 2011 14:31 GMT
#117
On November 12 2011 23:20 BlazingGlory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2011 23:11 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:27 artynko wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:19 namste wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:17 baal80 wrote:
On November 12 2011 22:14 artynko wrote:
Love how they are overplaying all the girly stuff. Had this been done in more "serious" manner people would be complaining about the quality all the time.

Well... what can you really say about the quality apart from that it's just awful?


Also can't complain about quality of the gameplay because that's a taboo when it comes to female gaming.

There is no benchmark of what is a high level for woman yet. It is like we are comparing men tennis to woman tennis, women are awful when compared to men. And yet still theirs tourneys are arguably more fun to watch then men.

Starcraft 2 is mostly cerebral so there is nothing preventing women from playing at the level of other top players. When watching pixels being pushed around, nothing differentiates them from other players except their gender. To have separate benchmarks for men & women makes me uncomfortable.


Women dont fare too well in chess too. We wont get a female pro-gamer any time soon. Maybe when some serious human-enhancement project is employed.
Nevertheless i enjoy the tournament so far and i have nothing to complain.

What do you mean by serious human-enhancement project?

I don't get why the streams are always so bad. Don't they partner with own3D?
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
November 12 2011 14:31 GMT
#118
On November 12 2011 23:28 Fionn wrote:
The stream is choppy and the games aren't great, but hey, Kelly's casting partner is cute and is nice when she giggles.

I am just picturing Tastosis casting this tournament. I would pay to see that. Artosis would blow a gasket by set three.


Tastosis casting this would be brilliant. Add another showmatch where all six girls fight Nestea at the same time, just to hear Artosis go crazy.

But seriously, stream issues aside, enjoying the games so far :-)
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
bigsack
Profile Joined August 2007
Korea (North)220 Posts
November 12 2011 14:32 GMT
#119
I just want to see Protoss get 0wn3d in this tournament.
Hilary Clinton for 2008
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
November 12 2011 14:32 GMT
#120
I kinda like the way theyre doing this.

If they tried to do it like any other tournament evveryone would complain about anything but with all these giggling and pink, and the commentators not being too serious, gives the whole thing a fun atmosphere.
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