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agh39
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden180 Posts
November 12 2011 12:10 GMT
#21
When does this start, and where?
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
November 12 2011 12:12 GMT
#22
On November 11 2011 02:35 Bagration wrote:
Hmmm, I feel that the first three matchups (Morrow-Hero, Hasuobs-Ret, Mana-Sheth) are all very close and can go either way. Thorzain should take out TLO.

I definitely do not want to underestimate Morrow, as this was the player that did beat both Ryung and Lots in IPL team arena, and is certainly a strong player. Hero favored in my opinion.
Hasuobs and Ret are both macro style players, so I would expect to see long macro games. After seeing Ret play against Demuslim earlier this week, I would say that Ret is favored.
Sheth is a pretty strong player, but Mana has been looking very convincing against zerg. I would say Mana is favored.

Best of luck to both teams!

I would say that hero has like a 70% chance of beating morrow. Maybe less though because he is playing on like the all time worst pvz map..
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
November 12 2011 12:21 GMT
#23
Is this actually happening now?
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Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
November 12 2011 12:32 GMT
#24
On November 12 2011 21:12 Yamulo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 02:35 Bagration wrote:
Hmmm, I feel that the first three matchups (Morrow-Hero, Hasuobs-Ret, Mana-Sheth) are all very close and can go either way. Thorzain should take out TLO.

I definitely do not want to underestimate Morrow, as this was the player that did beat both Ryung and Lots in IPL team arena, and is certainly a strong player. Hero favored in my opinion.
Hasuobs and Ret are both macro style players, so I would expect to see long macro games. After seeing Ret play against Demuslim earlier this week, I would say that Ret is favored.
Sheth is a pretty strong player, but Mana has been looking very convincing against zerg. I would say Mana is favored.

Best of luck to both teams!

I would say that hero has like a 70% chance of beating morrow. Maybe less though because he is playing on like the all time worst pvz map..


Hero vs Morrow is around 50%, i would even go as far as say it's in morrows favor.
Morrow has arguably the second best foreigner ZvP after Sen, and factoring the current state of ZvP
Morrow has a really really good chance at beating Hero.
wat
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
November 12 2011 12:32 GMT
#25
On November 12 2011 21:12 Yamulo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 02:35 Bagration wrote:
Hmmm, I feel that the first three matchups (Morrow-Hero, Hasuobs-Ret, Mana-Sheth) are all very close and can go either way. Thorzain should take out TLO.

I definitely do not want to underestimate Morrow, as this was the player that did beat both Ryung and Lots in IPL team arena, and is certainly a strong player. Hero favored in my opinion.
Hasuobs and Ret are both macro style players, so I would expect to see long macro games. After seeing Ret play against Demuslim earlier this week, I would say that Ret is favored.
Sheth is a pretty strong player, but Mana has been looking very convincing against zerg. I would say Mana is favored.

Best of luck to both teams!

I would say that hero has like a 70% chance of beating morrow. Maybe less though because he is playing on like the all time worst pvz map..
Remember that MorroW has sick ZvP too. I think everything will come down to MorroW vs HerO. MaNa should beat Sheth, Ret should be able to take out Hasu, and Thorzain should beat TLO. so if MorroW wins I think mouz got this in the bag.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 12 2011 16:25 GMT
#26
starts in 30
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 16:38:56
November 12 2011 16:38 GMT
#27
Why is everyone underestimating Sheth so badly?

Wait how is Ret gonna be able to play this? He's at battle in berlin...
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 12 2011 17:01 GMT
#28
going live soon
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Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
November 12 2011 17:23 GMT
#29
On November 13 2011 01:38 MrMercuG wrote:
Why is everyone underestimating Sheth so badly?

Wait how is Ret gonna be able to play this? He's at battle in berlin...

Still replays, always replays.
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skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
November 12 2011 17:29 GMT
#30
On November 12 2011 21:12 Yamulo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2011 02:35 Bagration wrote:
Hmmm, I feel that the first three matchups (Morrow-Hero, Hasuobs-Ret, Mana-Sheth) are all very close and can go either way. Thorzain should take out TLO.

I definitely do not want to underestimate Morrow, as this was the player that did beat both Ryung and Lots in IPL team arena, and is certainly a strong player. Hero favored in my opinion.
Hasuobs and Ret are both macro style players, so I would expect to see long macro games. After seeing Ret play against Demuslim earlier this week, I would say that Ret is favored.
Sheth is a pretty strong player, but Mana has been looking very convincing against zerg. I would say Mana is favored.

Best of luck to both teams!

I would say that hero has like a 70% chance of beating morrow. Maybe less though because he is playing on like the all time worst pvz map..


u really underestimate morrow and overrate hero, like everyone in this thread do ^_^

morrow has argubly the best zvp in europe, he just beat puzzle 3-0 the other day.
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
November 12 2011 17:31 GMT
#31
I'll support Hero in this match.
Khassar de Templari
Presidenten
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden777 Posts
November 12 2011 17:41 GMT
#32
morrow lookin guuuuuud!
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-12 17:48:03
November 12 2011 17:45 GMT
#33
morrow lost greater spire to zealot drop

hero's multitasking and multiprong harrassment is sooo good :D
yo
zyglrox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1168 Posts
November 12 2011 17:48 GMT
#34
hero's play is awesome to watch
champagne for my real friends, and real pain for my sham friends.
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
November 12 2011 17:48 GMT
#35
Very good play from hero, hope that he can win match 3.
Khassar de Templari
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
November 12 2011 17:51 GMT
#36
Who is commentating?
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
November 12 2011 17:53 GMT
#37
If Hero had MC's macro and had JYP/Sage's builds, he would be the ultimate Protoss. Why does Protoss power always get spread across many people?

Best Protoss by category:

Macro: MC
Micro: lots of Toss have good micro. Naniwa has best air unit micro. MC has best forcefields. Huk has best stalkers.
Multitask: Hero has the best multipronged harass.
Builds: Sage or JYP. MC has best vT builds.

Compare this to Terran

Macro: MVP
Micro: MVP
Multitask: MMA or MVP
Builds: MVP. Best vP builds: Puma





Deleted User 123474
Profile Joined November 2010
292 Posts
November 12 2011 18:08 GMT
#38
Hero's tactics are a joy to watch. Consistently running to the high ground, using the terrain to funnel Morrow's units, generally good storms covering his back... I really like his play.
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
November 12 2011 18:09 GMT
#39
Hero's storm is very good. Nice to see it.
Khassar de Templari
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
November 12 2011 18:10 GMT
#40
Hero's abusing the cliff like a Terran player. Gotta say, his micro is sublime. Inspiring to say the least.
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