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On November 06 2011 13:27 scarper65 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 13:26 Zanno wrote:
holy crap
dat nydus
who is this kid and how is he owning mvp so bad? Doesn't really look like ownage to me. He needs to be careful, overextending himself a little bit
you needed to take a look at the supply count
mvp was sub 100 and lost so much of his base he was deep in the red for a long time
game was long over before the greater spire started morphing
i want to see mvp win honestly, because for a lot of the korean audience, this is their first exposure to sc2, so having a former OSL contender place well should provide some legitimacy to the game for them
but on the other hand, damn, that zerg was either really good or had the luckiest game of his life
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On November 06 2011 13:29 huyman wrote:
omfg, Annyeong is amazing
more like omfg Annyeong made units and attacked with them, abusing how bad thors are against mutas if you micro. He almost gave the game back to MVP when he had a huge lead.
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he looks like 15 but liquidpedia shows he is 25!!! never even heard of this guy before too
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On November 06 2011 13:25 ftd.rain wrote:
And some dude kept arguing with me that thors are good and that idra was right about his whining, even MVP can't make pure mech work tvz , annyeong didn't lose a single muta to the 4 thors, mech just isn't viable tvz.
Complaining that 4 thors without scv support die to 25 mutas is the equivalent of complaining that 24 marines without medivacs do nothing to a well-micro'd muta ball. Don't be stupid.
On November 06 2011 13:30 Dodgin wrote:more like omfg Annyeong made units and attacked with them, abusing how bad thors are against mutas if you micro. He almost gave the game back to MVP when he had a huge lead.
Actually that's just how mech works in TvZ. The zerg can be lightyears ahead and then the terran pushes with 150food of mech + scv's and just steamrolls; muta is pretty much the safest counter. If anything, that game showed how freaking stupid thor/tank can be against zerg ground before hivetech.
If MVP had straight up all-in'd in that push (and actually had +1 armor; I think he forgot it?) the game could have swung his way. Poor decisions cost him the game, had nothing to do with how good/bad mech is.
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Mech is viable in TvZ, MVP just made some pretty big miscalculations and unit composition errors.
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you can only win with mech with one death push. if you dont win with that attack you lose the game.
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annyeong is very very good, but why is MVP doing a weird mech style? it seems like every time he has a game vs anyone he always does some weird style in at least one of the games which he usually loses.
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On November 06 2011 13:28 dmnum wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 13:27 scarper65 wrote:On November 06 2011 13:26 Zanno wrote:
holy crap
dat nydus
who is this kid and how is he owning mvp so bad? Doesn't really look like ownage to me. He needs to be careful, overextending himself a little bit Apart from one or two overextensions, he's picking mvp apart beautifully. Really impressing me.
Picking apart kinda implies that annyeong did something else other than a big muta switch that won him the game(+11 mutas after the first 10) whilst he didn't.
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I have no idea why MVP went mech 
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Amazing back and forth roach/muta switches and attacks. They both made bad trades but well played by annyeong to keep the pressure up.
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hope mvp goes biomech and shits on annyeong so hard that his grandchildren bleed
needs 2 stop this mech tvz, makes me cry when it doesn't work cuz of how shit thors are vs mutas ):
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That was a very good game. That was one of the first times I saw aerial and land map control at the same exact time from a Z. Critical massing mutas and nydusing causes a meching terran to fall apart 100%. Absolutely amazing play by Annyeong. Hope G2 is just as good. 9/10 G1
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On November 06 2011 13:28 crawlingchaos wrote:
Err.. why banes?
I asked myself the same question earlier. until annyeong blew up all the repairing SCVS around the siege tanks/thors
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On November 06 2011 13:29 iky43210 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 13:25 ftd.rain wrote:
And some dude kept arguing with me that thors are good and that idra was right about his whining, even MVP can't make pure mech work tvz , annyeong didn't lose a single muta to the 4 thors, mech just isn't viable tvz. yep, and a ton of ppl would still argue against you and believe mech is actually awesome in TvZ. Remember the zerg whining about NP nerf would bring mech terran domination? yeah about that
That's because mech is good against bad zergs who just let the terran turtle up to 4 bases uncontested and attack into siege lines.
MVP might actually lose this. Metal and TDA are good zerg maps.
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I'm surprised Mvp went mech. He must know something that we don't because otherwise I seriously doubt he would use it if he did not believe it was the best strategy
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It always looks like Annyeong was overextending a lots of times, yet he managed to macro it up and keep mvp in his base. Awesome comeback
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lol that was a funny game from MVP
get in a comfortable position -> proceed to lose whole army -> claw your way back -> lose whole army again
I would still give him a slight edge to win the whole series, but Meta and Tal Darim isn't going to be a walk in the park.
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I cant get all these Arrested Development-references out of my head!
"There is always money in the Baneling-stand!"
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Annyeong HOW?!?!?
MVP looked quite dominant after his initial Hellion harass, but Annyeong managed to pick apart MVP's mech style quite well.
And I love this song.
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