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On November 05 2011 11:45 sc14s wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 11:43 RageCommodore wrote:On November 05 2011 11:34 sc14s wrote:On November 05 2011 11:32 Resilient wrote:On November 05 2011 11:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On November 05 2011 11:29 ReachTheSky wrote:On November 05 2011 11:22 tarakas wrote:On November 05 2011 11:10 sc14s wrote:On November 05 2011 11:07 Resilient wrote:On November 05 2011 10:56 sc14s wrote:
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and..? he doesnt impress me, there are plenty of toss that are certainly better (ignoring koreans even) Someone message Socke and tell him that sc14s doesn't think he can cut it as a professional player, despite being in the top 10 non-Korean prize/tournament winners so far. 0/10 he will fall off the scene shortly anyways as the scene gets more competitive so its not like it matters what I think. Hes not the only one who will be knocked out either. this is what happens naturally in pretty much all competitive games. look at early broodwar for an example.. OT, grrs kiwi why carriers  lolz he just had a bad best of 3... every player has that from time to time for example huk (asus), idra (eswc) the reasons mighty be jetlag, lack of warmup, setup, bad day, ... bad telling he will fall of the scene is ridiculous of that set of matches Everyone here STOP shitting on Socke. He is Top 5 protoss in EU. He has been around since bw back in [pG] days, Gosu as fuck might i add. Good Day. While I think that Socke is pretty good, referencing his BW resume isn't a good indicator that he's therefore amazing at SC2. Take a look at Nony/ Tyler. There's a difference between calling someone the next MC and saying they're not good enough to be a pro-gamer. Socke has won almost 35,000$ in prize money, I'd say he's doing well for himself and he probably isn't going to lose sleep over people like sc14s. its not a big deal, i wont lose sleep if he does or doesn't stay on the scene. Its not hard to spot the bottom end of players starting to slide down the slippery slope (im looking at you tyler and incontrol <.<) Seriously? Bottom end? You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. The fact that you compared him to Incontrol really shows how little you know. Also, the number of better Protoss players that are NOT TRAINING IN KOREA is kinda limited. I mean there is Kiwikaki... and that's it. And while Kiwi's games are really exciting to watch, he doesn't really win more games than Socke. i said he was mid tier, and was talking about how the BOTTOM players are starting to slide down and become less competitive so yeah read what i typed first before responding. i wasnt comparing him to incontrol at all.
Yeah, but mid tier by what standards? If you exclude Koreans here, you also have to exclude all korean trained players which eleminates most Tosses that are above Socke in terms of Skill (Nani, SaSe, HuK). MaNa is the only european Toss which consistently shows as good results as Socke while having much more practice. Elfi is also good, but he's not a consistent performer, mainly because he lacks the mechanics.
Seriously, tell me more than 3 non-korean Tosses that are way above Socke. There just aren't any.
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On November 05 2011 11:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I've never watched or played HoN before, but there's a guy named CaptainBoner?
Seriously?
Is that getting streamed next? Because I might keep it on just to hear the casters say his name.
naahhh , I think the most ridiculous name in the HON pro scene is "peterpandam"....wtf ? XD
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On November 05 2011 11:53 RageCommodore wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 11:45 sc14s wrote:On November 05 2011 11:43 RageCommodore wrote:On November 05 2011 11:34 sc14s wrote:On November 05 2011 11:32 Resilient wrote:On November 05 2011 11:30 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On November 05 2011 11:29 ReachTheSky wrote:On November 05 2011 11:22 tarakas wrote:On November 05 2011 11:10 sc14s wrote:On November 05 2011 11:07 Resilient wrote:
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Someone message Socke and tell him that sc14s doesn't think he can cut it as a professional player, despite being in the top 10 non-Korean prize/tournament winners so far. 0/10 he will fall off the scene shortly anyways as the scene gets more competitive so its not like it matters what I think. Hes not the only one who will be knocked out either. this is what happens naturally in pretty much all competitive games. look at early broodwar for an example.. OT, grrs kiwi why carriers lolz he just had a bad best of 3... every player has that from time to time for example huk (asus), idra (eswc) the reasons mighty be jetlag, lack of warmup, setup, bad day, ... bad telling he will fall of the scene is ridiculous of that set of matches Everyone here STOP shitting on Socke. He is Top 5 protoss in EU. He has been around since bw back in [pG] days, Gosu as fuck might i add. Good Day. While I think that Socke is pretty good, referencing his BW resume isn't a good indicator that he's therefore amazing at SC2. Take a look at Nony/ Tyler. There's a difference between calling someone the next MC and saying they're not good enough to be a pro-gamer. Socke has won almost 35,000$ in prize money, I'd say he's doing well for himself and he probably isn't going to lose sleep over people like sc14s. its not a big deal, i wont lose sleep if he does or doesn't stay on the scene. Its not hard to spot the bottom end of players starting to slide down the slippery slope (im looking at you tyler and incontrol <.<) Seriously? Bottom end? You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. The fact that you compared him to Incontrol really shows how little you know. Also, the number of better Protoss players that are NOT TRAINING IN KOREA is kinda limited. I mean there is Kiwikaki... and that's it. And while Kiwi's games are really exciting to watch, he doesn't really win more games than Socke. i said he was mid tier, and was talking about how the BOTTOM players are starting to slide down and become less competitive so yeah read what i typed first before responding. i wasnt comparing him to incontrol at all. Yeah, but mid tier by what standards? If you exclude Koreans here, you also have to exclude all korean trained players which eleminates most Tosses that are above Socke in terms of Skill (Nani, SaSe, HuK). MaNa is the only european Toss which consistently shows as good results as Socke while having much more practice. Elfi is also good, but he's not a consistent performer, mainly because he lacks the mechanics. Seriously, tell me more than 3 non-korean Tosses that are way above Socke. There just aren't any.
"Way" above Socke? That's subjective. But Naniwa and HuK were above him even before Korean training. Also, White-Ra is better.
But I don't agree with sc14s's claim that Socke is going to fade away either. He's a mid-tier foreigner pro. He's no HuK, IdrA, or Stephano, but I don't see him fading away anytime soon. He'd still beat people like iNcontrol, Tyler, or Axslav decisively.
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So is HoN like WoW, except with small characters?
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On November 05 2011 12:01 1Eris1 wrote:
So is HoN like WoW, except with small characters?
It looks like LoL o.O
Or like Diablo with team player vs. player modes.
On November 05 2011 11:55 Tchado wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 11:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I've never watched or played HoN before, but there's a guy named CaptainBoner?
Seriously?
Is that getting streamed next? Because I might keep it on just to hear the casters say his name. naahhh , I think the most ridiculous name in the HON pro scene is "peterpandam"....wtf ? XD
Hahahaha yeah. I wonder if some of these names are created just to troll the casters. Why not? 
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Its not only an oversaturation of games but its the meaninglessness of most of them. Hero's already made it to the GF, most guys are 1 game away, etc. There's no money for the regular season, there's no investment, there's no Koreans so the games are mostly just foreigners slap fighting.
All in all I think NASL is going to be the first league to be squeezed out when the SC2 esports pinch hits.
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On November 05 2011 12:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 12:01 1Eris1 wrote:
So is HoN like WoW, except with small characters? It looks like LoL o.O Or like Diablo with team player vs. player modes. Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 11:55 Tchado wrote:On November 05 2011 11:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I've never watched or played HoN before, but there's a guy named CaptainBoner?
Seriously?
Is that getting streamed next? Because I might keep it on just to hear the casters say his name. naahhh , I think the most ridiculous name in the HON pro scene is "peterpandam"....wtf ? XD Hahahaha yeah. I wonder if some of these names are created just to troll the casters. Why not?
Never played League of Legends either -.-
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On November 05 2011 12:06 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 12:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On November 05 2011 12:01 1Eris1 wrote:
So is HoN like WoW, except with small characters? It looks like LoL o.O Or like Diablo with team player vs. player modes. On November 05 2011 11:55 Tchado wrote:On November 05 2011 11:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I've never watched or played HoN before, but there's a guy named CaptainBoner?
Seriously?
Is that getting streamed next? Because I might keep it on just to hear the casters say his name. naahhh , I think the most ridiculous name in the HON pro scene is "peterpandam"....wtf ? XD Hahahaha yeah. I wonder if some of these names are created just to troll the casters. Why not? Never played League of Legends either -.-
Me neither, but I had to sit through it at the recent IPL in Atlantic City.
It was ridiculously boring.
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On November 05 2011 12:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 12:01 1Eris1 wrote:
So is HoN like WoW, except with small characters? It looks like LoL o.O Or like Diablo with team player vs. player modes. Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 11:55 Tchado wrote:On November 05 2011 11:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I've never watched or played HoN before, but there's a guy named CaptainBoner?
Seriously?
Is that getting streamed next? Because I might keep it on just to hear the casters say his name. naahhh , I think the most ridiculous name in the HON pro scene is "peterpandam"....wtf ? XD Hahahaha yeah. I wonder if some of these names are created just to troll the casters. Why not?
I wish the casters do some trolling ! but I dont think they will .
and Hon has been around before lol was even thought of , so Hon doesn't look like LOL , lol looks like HON
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On November 05 2011 12:13 Tchado wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 12:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On November 05 2011 12:01 1Eris1 wrote:
So is HoN like WoW, except with small characters? It looks like LoL o.O Or like Diablo with team player vs. player modes. On November 05 2011 11:55 Tchado wrote:On November 05 2011 11:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I've never watched or played HoN before, but there's a guy named CaptainBoner?
Seriously?
Is that getting streamed next? Because I might keep it on just to hear the casters say his name. naahhh , I think the most ridiculous name in the HON pro scene is "peterpandam"....wtf ? XD Hahahaha yeah. I wonder if some of these names are created just to troll the casters. Why not? I wish the casters do some trolling ! but I dont think they will . and Hon has been around before lol was even thought of , so Hon doesn't look like LOL , lol looks like HON
My mistake; I'm unfamiliar with them and their histories.
EDIT: Post #9000 >.>
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On November 05 2011 12:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 12:13 Tchado wrote:On November 05 2011 12:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On November 05 2011 12:01 1Eris1 wrote:
So is HoN like WoW, except with small characters? It looks like LoL o.O Or like Diablo with team player vs. player modes. On November 05 2011 11:55 Tchado wrote:On November 05 2011 11:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I've never watched or played HoN before, but there's a guy named CaptainBoner?
Seriously?
Is that getting streamed next? Because I might keep it on just to hear the casters say his name. naahhh , I think the most ridiculous name in the HON pro scene is "peterpandam"....wtf ? XD Hahahaha yeah. I wonder if some of these names are created just to troll the casters. Why not? I wish the casters do some trolling ! but I dont think they will . and Hon has been around before lol was even thought of , so Hon doesn't look like LOL , lol looks like HON My mistake; I'm unfamiliar with them and their histories. EDIT: Post #9000 >.>
Haha I feel you, I wasted my 3000th post talking about Iran >.<
Im really confused what this game is. It's like a WoW arena match, except 5x as long
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Think of it this way, sc14s, people probably rate your post quality based on the few posts they've just witnessed similarly to how you judge Starcraft players. Extrapolate based on your hilariously small body of knowledge all you want.
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Just voicing my opinion, I'd rather watch pretty much.... any other game other than LoL. I'm sorry maybe its just me.
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On November 05 2011 12:27 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 12:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On November 05 2011 12:13 Tchado wrote:On November 05 2011 12:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On November 05 2011 12:01 1Eris1 wrote:
So is HoN like WoW, except with small characters? It looks like LoL o.O Or like Diablo with team player vs. player modes. On November 05 2011 11:55 Tchado wrote:On November 05 2011 11:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I've never watched or played HoN before, but there's a guy named CaptainBoner?
Seriously?
Is that getting streamed next? Because I might keep it on just to hear the casters say his name. naahhh , I think the most ridiculous name in the HON pro scene is "peterpandam"....wtf ? XD Hahahaha yeah. I wonder if some of these names are created just to troll the casters. Why not? I wish the casters do some trolling ! but I dont think they will . and Hon has been around before lol was even thought of , so Hon doesn't look like LOL , lol looks like HON My mistake; I'm unfamiliar with them and their histories. EDIT: Post #9000 >.> Haha I feel you, I wasted my 3000th post talking about Iran >.< Im really confused what this game is. It's like a WoW arena match, except 5x as long
Not really; You do know dota right? It's the same genre.
In case you don't know, basically each player control a hero(they work in the same way as war3 normal heroes, 3 skills plus one ultimate, every level you gain 1 point to put in your skills; Ultimate unlocks at level 6 but you still have to put a point in it to get it), plus you kill creeps which spawn in these 3 lanes to get gold and experience. You also get experience by killing the other team heroes and constructions(3 towers in each lane plus base). If a hero dies, it take some time to respawn; Game ends when the other team main's build(don't remember the name of them in LoL) are killed.
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wow ! that was the most messed up ulti spam I have ever seen XD
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watchin HoN is fucking hard even if you play it every day...
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On November 05 2011 12:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
"Way" above Socke? That's subjective. But Naniwa and HuK were above him even before Korean training. Also, White-Ra is better.
But I don't agree with sc14s's claim that Socke is going to fade away either. He's a mid-tier foreigner pro. He's no HuK, IdrA, or Stephano, but I don't see him fading away anytime soon. He'd still beat people like iNcontrol, Tyler, or Axslav decisively.
Nani? Yes. He was on an extreme hot streak prior to departing to Korea (similar to MaNa right now), but Huk? No. Before Huks training in Korea really improved his play, Socke was at least on the same level. He actually was some kind of nemesis to Huk, eliminating him in three major tourneys (DH Winter, Assembly Winter and MLG Dallas 2011), despite PvP being his by far weakest MU. Even today, he has a positive record against him.
His PvT is way stronger and pretty feared in EU (the Bo3 today doesn´t change that), proved by victories in important tourneys over high calibre players like Select, Kas, Brat_OK or Dde (vastly underrated) and even that MU is still below his PvZ.
His PvZ is top notch in EU, I would even go as far and say he is right now the strongest PvZ player residing in Europe (SaSe by the very few games I have seen from him could be on this level). I base that on the victories (since DH Summer) over following zergs:
IdrA
Ret
MorroW
Nerchio (twice)
DIMAGA (twice)
Darkforce
Sheth
The only Zerg, that seems to give him real trouble recently is Stephano (who is on fire lately), but they haven´t played much against each other (one Bo3 and one Bo1 as far as I know).
I´m sorry, but calling Socke a Mid-tier foreigner is disrespectful IMO. A mid-tier foreigner shouldn´t be able to beat all the players I mentioned above. That are far too many to call them upsets or something like that. A mid-tier foreigner shouldn´t be the 6th highest player outside Korea in terms of won price money and have tons of Top 8 or higher finishes in major tournaments (IEM, MLG, DH, Assembly and so on) over the span of more than a year.
Socke IS a Top foreigner, capable of beating pretty much any non korean player, if he brings out his A-game. This isn´t even much of an opinion, because he has done it before.
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On November 05 2011 10:24 CosmicSpiral wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2011 10:18 Dexington wrote:
Wow sick viewer count.
What is happening to NASL? Too many games, losing viewer investment.
this pretty much, i haven't watched a single NASL S2 game i'll wait until the finals
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On November 05 2011 12:05 SimDawg wrote:
Its not only an oversaturation of games but its the meaninglessness of most of them. Hero's already made it to the GF, most guys are 1 game away, etc. There's no money for the regular season, there's no investment, there's no Koreans so the games are mostly just foreigners slap fighting.
All in all I think NASL is going to be the first league to be squeezed out when the SC2 esports pinch hits.
Gonna save this one for later
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Wait so what happened with Softball?
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