EPT[IPL Team Arena] SlayerS vs. Acer - Page 12
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Lewan72
United States381 Posts
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On November 05 2011 05:52 Itsmedudeman wrote: Coca hard counters EG though. He's 4-0 against puma, his ZvZ is much better than idra's, and ZvP is untouchable so huk is out of the question. Wait, slow down. Coca has like a 22% win rate in ZvZ atm, and his ZvP is hardly untouchable. It's good, but not invincible. If anything EG should be worried about MMA or Ganzi | ||
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Sub Zero
Poland117 Posts
On November 05 2011 06:43 1Eris1 wrote: Wait, slow down. Coca has like a 22% win rate in ZvZ atm, and his ZvP is hardly untouchable. It's good, but not invincible. If anything EG should be worried about MMA or Ganzi He is 66,67% in international events Idra is 33% in Korea You can't look at the win/loss ratio when there is so little games most of them being versus super gosu ZvZ players. His all his losses come from Nestea, Losira and Leenock, he beat DRG. The only way I can see him loosing vs EG is Puma/Demuslim, and still Coca would be the favourite against them. Coca's ZvP is not good, it's absolutely amazing: second or third in the world. | ||
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TaKemE
Denmark1045 Posts
On November 05 2011 07:23 Sub Zero wrote: He is 66,67% in international events Idra is 33% in Korea You can't look at the win/loss ratio when there is so little games most of them being versus super gosu ZvZ players. His all his losses come from Nestea, Losira and Leenock, he beat DRG. The only way I can see him loosing vs EG is Puma/Demuslim, and still Coca would be the favourite against them. Coca's ZvP is not good, it's absolutely amazing: second or third in the world. Well if you cant base it on that few games maybe you should tell why you think his ZvZ is so good... | ||
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koolaid1990
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On November 05 2011 07:39 koolaid1990 wrote: Demuslim can beat the code b slayers players like Lots, but will get raped by everyone else. Idra plays like a genius sometimes, and sometimes he plays like a noob. Huk is solid overall, but coca can rape him ezpz. o.o wut. from what do you base the assumption that Huk can be raped ezpz... In fact I would hesitate to say anyone could beat huk ezpz | ||
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Olinimm
1471 Posts
On November 05 2011 07:44 CeriseCherries wrote: o.o wut. from what do you base the assumption that Huk can be raped ezpz... In fact I would hesitate to say anyone could beat huk ezpz MVP, Inori...:D | ||
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antihobo
Canada121 Posts
Of course slayers is still the favourite by a long shot, although it wouldn't be the miracle upset of the year lol. | ||
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Sub Zero
Poland117 Posts
On November 05 2011 07:34 TaKemE wrote: Well if you cant base it on that few games maybe you should tell why you think his ZvZ is so good... I didn't say his ZvZ is so good, it is not as bad as the ratio suggests. I just think he would win with Idra, but I might be wrong as I haven't be following him recently and last thing I can remember was him having some troubles with other zergs.. o.o wut. from what do you base the assumption that Huk can be raped ezpz... In fact I would hesitate to say anyone could beat huk ezpz coca vs huk at MLG | ||
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chosenkerrigan
858 Posts
On November 05 2011 07:44 CeriseCherries wrote: o.o wut. from what do you base the assumption that Huk can be raped ezpz... In fact I would hesitate to say anyone could beat huk ezpz Huk will be raped ezpz when slayers have at least 5 players are favored against him ...MMA/Ganzi/Coca/Taeja/Yugioh...not to mention Puzzle has super strong pvp.... I repeat..Huk is nothing special in code S...his winratio is below 50% since forever.. | ||
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WaSa
Sweden749 Posts
On November 05 2011 07:54 antihobo wrote: EG is the only foreign team that could possibly take down SlayerS without it being a miracle. The 3 EG bosses can take games off of the very best, have proven it, and Demuslim definitely doesn't suck. Of course slayers is still the favourite by a long shot, although it wouldn't be the miracle upset of the year lol. EG fail to win teams like Mouz (in more than one occasion) and Empire lol. | ||
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ArchDC
Malaysia1996 Posts
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mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On November 05 2011 08:11 chosenkerrigan wrote: Huk will be raped ezpz when slayers have at least 5 players are favored against him ...MMA/Ganzi/Coca/Taeja/Yugioh...not to mention Puzzle has super strong pvp.... I repeat..Huk is nothing special in code S...his winratio is below 50% since forever.. MMA has a losing record against Toss. Ganzi only has one race he has a winning record against. Yugioh is pretty blag despite his decent zvp. Huk has his best record in korea against zergs. Saying it would be ezpz is underestimating Huk just like you are underestimating Idra. Did you not pay attention to the last MLG where he beat a ton of top players? Where Huk also beat a bunch of top players including both top Terrans and top Protoss? Did you not pay attention when Puma beat Polt and other people? Or perhaps you don't listen to people like Incontrol who considers Demuslim to be the EG ace if Puma isn't available(probably because Huk generally shuns online overseas play) so yah... saying that EG has no chance is a bit of an overstatement. They aren't favoured but they could easily take down the top Slayers players. | ||
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urasyupi2
United States810 Posts
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On November 05 2011 09:44 mrtomjones wrote: MMA has a losing record against Toss. Ganzi only has one race he has a winning record against. Yugioh is pretty blag despite his decent zvp. Huk has his best record in korea against zergs. Saying it would be ezpz is underestimating Huk just like you are underestimating Idra. Did you not pay attention to the last MLG where he beat a ton of top players? Where Huk also beat a bunch of top players including both top Terrans and top Protoss? Did you not pay attention when Puma beat Polt and other people? Or perhaps you don't listen to people like Incontrol who considers Demuslim to be the EG ace if Puma isn't available(probably because Huk generally shuns online overseas play) so yah... saying that EG has no chance is a bit of an overstatement. They aren't favoured but they could easily take down the top Slayers players. I'm with you on that, but I think it'd be similar to Mouz. On an extremely good day, they could maybe, maybe take down all of them, yes, but on an average day they'd win a game or two and that'd be it. The top EG players are no slouchs, but on the whole, I think SlayerS is the stronger team by far. On November 05 2011 09:48 urasyupi2 wrote: Doesn't TaeJa specialize in TvP? TaeJa specializes in EVERYTHING. Seriously, watch the Korean Weekly, if you have time. It's ridiculous. Jokes aside, TvP is his strongest matchup, yes. | ||
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Demonhunter04
1530 Posts
On November 04 2011 14:49 parazice wrote: IPL need to invite all-toss team XD White-Ra Team perhaps? The only all-Protoss team as far as I know. | ||
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
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Greggle
United States1131 Posts
On November 05 2011 09:44 mrtomjones wrote: MMA has a losing record against Toss. Ganzi only has one race he has a winning record against. Yugioh is pretty blag despite his decent zvp. Huk has his best record in korea against zergs. Saying it would be ezpz is underestimating Huk just like you are underestimating Idra. Did you not pay attention to the last MLG where he beat a ton of top players? Where Huk also beat a bunch of top players including both top Terrans and top Protoss? Did you not pay attention when Puma beat Polt and other people? Or perhaps you don't listen to people like Incontrol who considers Demuslim to be the EG ace if Puma isn't available(probably because Huk generally shuns online overseas play) so yah... saying that EG has no chance is a bit of an overstatement. They aren't favoured but they could easily take down the top Slayers players. MMA really hasn't played that many TvPs, I think it's a bit underrated. The losses everyone likes to cite are Sage who was unknown at the time and turned out to be pretty fucking amazing and Puzzle who went on to win Code A and ended up one of the best protoss in the world. Any games older than that happened in like March, which is 8 months ago, an eternity in for such a young game. MMA just kicked the shit out of MC too. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
Btw, Cats and Painuser mentioned that next week's challenger would be aTn, but looking at the liquipedia page the team only has 4 active members. Hire mercenaries? | ||
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