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Watch how you approach the topic of match fixing. You can speculate, saying "I'm not so sure about the finals, something doesn't sit right with me," but if you are going to outright accuse players of match fixing you need something more than your word.

TL takes match fixing/abuse seriously and as such there is a burden a proof when you are accusing players.

- p4NDemik
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 18:56:22
October 22 2011 18:56 GMT
#621
Sen didn't lost because of ultras, he lost because he made like 35+ lings and 7 roaches in the early/mid game doing no damage. Imagine that money went into drones and Sen would have won ezpz.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
October 22 2011 18:56 GMT
#622
On October 23 2011 03:54 Denzil wrote:
You can't go Ultra Ling Infestor on Shakuras.

SeleCT must be giggling like a girl everytime he sees a zerg trying it because he understands how to win against it.



Yeah, after his match vs Dimaga yesterday select said that once he takes the middle he feels like the game is over on Shakuras. That's not exactly the quote but close enough.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 22 2011 18:56 GMT
#623
On October 23 2011 03:55 Drazerk wrote:
Game three on... I actually have no idea what the map is

but in the bottom left corner is Sen

and in the top right is Select


2:30


Hatch first by sen followed up by a spawning pool as Select gets his orbital
kofman
Profile Joined August 2011
Andorra698 Posts
October 22 2011 18:56 GMT
#624
On October 23 2011 03:55 Mohdoo wrote:
Abyssal caverns, are you serious?

Sen loses.

Cross spawns, if anything sen has a big advantage.
Zojukanji
Profile Joined June 2011
China393 Posts
October 22 2011 18:56 GMT
#625
what's the name of this map. haven't seen it before.
do it!
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
October 22 2011 18:56 GMT
#626
On October 23 2011 03:54 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 03:54 Al Bundy wrote:
OK Ultras do not work against MMM + tank
I heard mutaling / baneling is good in ZvT though.


Infestor/Broodlord/Corrupter is good... just play it slow from there. I really don't know why one would not use it, its such a pain in the ass to deal with for terran.

I think it's because they're afraid of the ghost play.
That ThorZaIN versus DarkForce game from ESWC comes to mind.
It appears I have been chosen.
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
October 22 2011 18:57 GMT
#627
On October 23 2011 03:55 StyLeD wrote:
Oh if only Brood Lords had zealot charge :3

yea brood lords should charge into marines !!
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 22 2011 18:57 GMT
#628
On October 23 2011 03:56 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 03:55 Drazerk wrote:
Game three on... I actually have no idea what the map is

but in the bottom left corner is Sen

and in the top right is Select


2:30


Hatch first by sen followed up by a spawning pool as Select gets his orbital


3:30


Factory on the way for Select as sen gets his gas
Clazziquai10
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore1949 Posts
October 22 2011 18:57 GMT
#629
On October 23 2011 03:55 talismania wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 03:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Naniwa has a better chance vs Sen than Select IMO


especially since he already 2-0'd sen


Yup. SeleCT's TvP is godly compared to sen's ZvP (which is good but not great)
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
October 22 2011 18:57 GMT
#630
On October 23 2011 03:56 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 03:54 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On October 23 2011 03:54 Al Bundy wrote:
OK Ultras do not work against MMM + tank
I heard mutaling / baneling is good in ZvT though.


Infestor/Broodlord/Corrupter is good... just play it slow from there. I really don't know why one would not use it, its such a pain in the ass to deal with for terran.

I think it's because they're afraid of the ghost play.
That ThorZaIN versus DarkForce game from ESWC comes to mind.

And drops can really kill you, your army needs to stay together/is immobile
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 22 2011 18:58 GMT
#631
On October 23 2011 03:57 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 03:56 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 03:55 Drazerk wrote:
Game three on... I actually have no idea what the map is

but in the bottom left corner is Sen

and in the top right is Select


2:30


Hatch first by sen followed up by a spawning pool as Select gets his orbital


3:30


Factory on the way for Select as sen gets his gas


4:30


Select is expanding as hellion production starts
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 22 2011 18:58 GMT
#632
On October 23 2011 03:58 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 03:57 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 03:56 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 03:55 Drazerk wrote:
Game three on... I actually have no idea what the map is

but in the bottom left corner is Sen

and in the top right is Select


2:30


Hatch first by sen followed up by a spawning pool as Select gets his orbital


3:30


Factory on the way for Select as sen gets his gas


4:30


Select is expanding as hellion production starts


5:30


Ling speed for Sen as select starts stim
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 22 2011 18:58 GMT
#633
Sen beat SeleCT's army, but could do nothing to SeleCT's economy.

The reason IdrA wins ZvTs when he smashes the Terran's army is that he immediately uses the mutas to destroy the Terran's economy and strangles them to death.

You can't do that with ultras. Terran can turtle on their ramp against ultras and you can't get at their economy.

Sen's hope is to crush SeleCT in one huge engagement and then camp his production structures.

But if SeleCT defends, he's ahead.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
October 22 2011 18:59 GMT
#634
On October 23 2011 03:56 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 03:54 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On October 23 2011 03:54 Al Bundy wrote:
OK Ultras do not work against MMM + tank
I heard mutaling / baneling is good in ZvT though.


Infestor/Broodlord/Corrupter is good... just play it slow from there. I really don't know why one would not use it, its such a pain in the ass to deal with for terran.

I think it's because they're afraid of the ghost play.
That ThorZaIN versus DarkForce game from ESWC comes to mind.


Ghost play actually requires Terran to be very careful and very good.. Against Broodlord I will just mass medivac, marauder/marine and tanks... so basically what I did before against T2, but with marauders. It also only takes kiting and not insane micro / emp, snipe etc...

So yeah, I UNDERSTAND what you are saying, I just don't think it makes much sense what Zergs are thinking
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 22 2011 18:59 GMT
#635
On October 23 2011 03:58 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 03:58 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 03:57 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 03:56 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 03:55 Drazerk wrote:
Game three on... I actually have no idea what the map is

but in the bottom left corner is Sen

and in the top right is Select


2:30


Hatch first by sen followed up by a spawning pool as Select gets his orbital


3:30


Factory on the way for Select as sen gets his gas


4:30


Select is expanding as hellion production starts


5:30


Ling speed for Sen as select starts stim


6:30


Roach warren on the way for sen as select loses a hellion on the ramp to the main

Two more barracks for select as sen sneaks a ling into select's main
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 22 2011 19:00 GMT
#636
On October 23 2011 03:59 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 03:58 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 03:58 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 03:57 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 03:56 Drazerk wrote:
On October 23 2011 03:55 Drazerk wrote:
Game three on... I actually have no idea what the map is

but in the bottom left corner is Sen

and in the top right is Select


2:30


Hatch first by sen followed up by a spawning pool as Select gets his orbital


3:30


Factory on the way for Select as sen gets his gas


4:30


Select is expanding as hellion production starts


5:30


Ling speed for Sen as select starts stim


6:30


Roach warren on the way for sen as select loses a hellion on the ramp to the main

Two more barracks for select as sen sneaks a ling into select's main


8:00


Baneling nest and +1 armour for Sen as he takes his third base

Select getting an engineering bay
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
October 22 2011 19:01 GMT
#637
On October 23 2011 03:59 mTw|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 03:56 Fyzar wrote:
On October 23 2011 03:54 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On October 23 2011 03:54 Al Bundy wrote:
OK Ultras do not work against MMM + tank
I heard mutaling / baneling is good in ZvT though.


Infestor/Broodlord/Corrupter is good... just play it slow from there. I really don't know why one would not use it, its such a pain in the ass to deal with for terran.

I think it's because they're afraid of the ghost play.
That ThorZaIN versus DarkForce game from ESWC comes to mind.


Ghost play actually requires Terran to be very careful and very good.. Against Broodlord I will just mass medivac, marauder/marine and tanks... so basically what I did before against T2, but with marauders. It also only takes kiting and not insane micro / emp, snipe etc...

So yeah, I UNDERSTAND what you are saying, I just don't think it makes much sense what Zergs are thinking

Hey man I'm toss, I absolutely understand what YOU are saying ;p.
Infestor/Broodlord is such a pain to deal with, yet zergs decide to go other things most of the time, but I was just saying what I thought they would think =].
It appears I have been chosen.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4408 Posts
October 22 2011 19:02 GMT
#638
On October 23 2011 03:56 kofman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 03:55 Mohdoo wrote:
Abyssal caverns, are you serious?

Sen loses.

Cross spawns, if anything sen has a big advantage.


How so? This map is godly for Terran. Just look at it the only way to cross the map is 2 chokes.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
October 22 2011 19:02 GMT
#639
........why would you move back sen -_- why. you had enough to kill it off.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 19:03:12
October 22 2011 19:02 GMT
#640
Does anyone know if Sen still trains much on the Korean server ever since he left Fnatic? Or does he mainly train with his Taiwanese teammates?
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