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The first week of Playhem's showmatch series brings coLMinigun (playing Zerg) and EGiNcontroL! Tune in every Sunday for more epic showmatches and let us know who you'd like to see next week :D
Results:
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Game 1 - Dual Sight: coLMinigun > EGiNcontroL
Game 2 - Shattered Temple: coLMinigun > EGiNcontroL
Game 3 - Terminus SE: coLMinigun < EGiNcontroL
Game 4 - Shakuras Plateau: coLMinigun < EGiNcontroL
Game 5 - Metalopolis: coLMinigun > EGiNcontroL
Game 6 - Xel'Naga Fortress: coLMinigun < EGiNcontroL
Game 7 - Daybreak: coLMinigun < EGiNcontroL
Winner: EGiNcontroL 4-3
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Date: Sunday October 23rd
Time: 3:00pm Pacific // 6:00pm Eastern // 11:00pm BST // 12:00am CET
Prizes: 1st - $100 2nd - $50
Casters: Andrew "Kibbelz" Dunne and Tobias "Tumba" Sherman
Stream: PlayhemTV
Poll: PredictionsMinigun wins (369) 77% iNcontroL wins (92) 19% Too close to call (19) 4% 480 total votes Your vote: Predictions (Vote): Minigun wins
(Vote): iNcontroL wins
(Vote): Too close to call
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Col. Minigun HWAIGHTING! <3
(but also Incontrol <3)
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They had to introduce payment for loser for Incontrol to agree
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On October 22 2011 04:11 Seiferz wrote:
isn't minigun protoss?
He plays Zerg against Protoss
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Would love to see some awesome ZvP action.
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iNcontrol gonna whoop some ass!
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I'm pretty sure Minigun still plays PvP normally. He's probably going zerg to make it more interesting.
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Yeah last time they PvP'd was at IPL, and that was ugly.
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I feel like iNcontrol has what it takes it just needs to buckle down a little more and get focused. I think he can take this.
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I wish Minigun would switch to zerg entirely =D!
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what are the odds he finds a way to go 0-5 in a Bo7?
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Getting excited for this :D
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On October 22 2011 12:13 CryHavok wrote:
what are the odds he finds a way to go 0-5 in a Bo7?
impossible because its bo7... max u can go is 0-4
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lol why do people go out of their way to hate on incontrol. get a life. i haven't seen one derogatory comment toward incontrol that is even remotely funny.. just quit trying.
that said, with minigun going zerg i think incontrol definitely has the edge here and probably win the series.
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On October 23 2011 01:39 birdkicker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 12:13 CryHavok wrote:
what are the odds he finds a way to go 0-5 in a Bo7? impossible because its bo7... max u can go is 0-4
He was referencing that Incontrol always goes 0-5 at MLG.
Anyways Incontrol managed to go 2-3 in a showmatch vs Major so I definitely think he is capable of beating other good pros, he could very well beat Minigun.
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On October 23 2011 01:39 birdkicker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 12:13 CryHavok wrote:
what are the odds he finds a way to go 0-5 in a Bo7? impossible because its bo7... max u can go is 0-4
sigh
you missed the joke champ
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Incontrol got knocked out of IPL because of MInigun, hope he can get his revenge
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Don't use this to shit on Geoff again, please.
He's so cool to the community and really doesn't deserve to be shat on all the time.
Although I predict an 0:5 as well.
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LOL Chad "Motherfucking" Jones. Weirdly enough... Geoff was one of the best Zergs in the foreigner scene... I almost feel like it should be PvZ the other way around...
EDIT: FUCK THAT, iNcontroL goes 4:0 or wins this shit.
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I honestly don't know why so many people love to hate iNcontroL, he's a solid player and one of the most influential figures in eSports. Haters gonna hate I guess
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Watching iNcontrol's stream, you can tell he's a step below on mechanics, multitask and speed compared to the higher level pro gamers. Once Protoss could no longer rely on smart decision making and deathball making, iNcontrol fell off the map.
Expect Minigun to win here.
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Totally not hating on incontrol, but I had to vote for Minigun. I can't get enough of his play-style and builds <3
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Looking forward to this :D
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The only game I've seen of Minigun as Z was when he beat IdrA muta vs muta. I assume he has a strong ZvP for obvious reasons too? o.o
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Man Incontrol is a trooper. The amount of people who hate on him whenever he loses from reddit or wherever is probably not worth the 100 dollars but he does it anyways... respect.
And miniguns Z can be quite strong.
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minigun is one of the few players who plays all the three races like a boss!!  . Just love his play. So looking forward for mini vs incontrol. I like both of them
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On October 23 2011 04:16 neeb wrote:
I honestly don't know why so many people love to hate iNcontroL, he's a solid player and one of the most influential figures in eSports. Haters gonna hate I guess
clearly you're not aware of him shitting on so many other community members then, both in posts on this site and rude comments and bitchyness on shows he's done
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On October 23 2011 04:16 neeb wrote:
I honestly don't know why so many people love to hate iNcontroL, he's a solid player and one of the most influential figures in eSports. Haters gonna hate I guess
I dont think people hate Incontrol. Personally I think he is a great commentator and host and are very funny but in sc2 his mechanics are awefull and he relies to much on funky strategies. I would prefer to see him in a coach role I think it would suit him much better
Good luck to incontrol I just dont see him beating minigun
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Minigun gon' blink assault his way to 5-0 win.
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Here are the statistics for each player on TLPD.
Mini 52% win ratio. 6 gold, 2 silver, 1 bronze achievement
Incontrol 36% win ratio. No achievements
Even though minigun isn't playing protoss, i can't see Incontrol even taking 1 game off minigun.
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iNcontroL is bonjwa of the my heart.Go iNcontroL Go!!!!!!!!!!!
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Once Protoss could no longer rely on smart decision making
You mean like... make DT's?
That's Geoff's go-to. ^^
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InControl has to win. Think of the puppies!!
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On October 23 2011 21:52 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2011 04:16 neeb wrote:
I honestly don't know why so many people love to hate iNcontroL, he's a solid player and one of the most influential figures in eSports. Haters gonna hate I guess I dont think people hate Incontrol. Personally I think he is a great commentator and host and are very funny but in sc2 his mechanics are awefull and he relies to much on funky strategies. I would prefer to see him in a coach role I think it would suit him much better Good luck to incontrol I just dont see him beating minigun
Kind of agree. I think the fast pace of skill in the game has sadly outpaced iNcontrol. Mainly because he just doesn't focus on his own practice enough, although I've heard that's because he spends a lot of his time making sure the other players on his team have good practice conditions and whatever it is they need to excel, so he's kind of sacrificing his ability a little bit for the (frankly) more talented members of his team. I'd like to see iNcontrol coaching as well, and casting for that matter (although, as funny as his off-colored jokes can be, he'll have to reign them if he wants to be seen as professional).
So good luck to iNcontrol, he'll need it as the underdog.
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Go Go incontrol 4:0 you need a confidence boost!
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Chad "Motherfucking" Jones top1.
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Chad "Motherfucking" Jones for President! :D
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A countdown has been added to the top of the first post Refresh to update the time. Hope to see everyone there in the stream chat later!
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woo! go chadwick! all day with CJ!
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when did minigun switch to zerg?
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On October 24 2011 05:25 Alejandrisha wrote:
when did minigun switch to zerg?
He didn't, he just ladders as zerg for fun.
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On October 24 2011 05:28 Pokebunny wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 05:25 Alejandrisha wrote:
when did minigun switch to zerg? He didn't, he just ladders as zerg for fun.
wait he's not even playing his main race in a playhem showmatch?? matchfixing?? sandbagging??? bad for esports???
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On October 24 2011 05:30 Alejandrisha wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 05:28 Pokebunny wrote:On October 24 2011 05:25 Alejandrisha wrote:
when did minigun switch to zerg? He didn't, he just ladders as zerg for fun. wait he's not even playing his main race in a playhem showmatch?? matchfixing?? sandbagging??? bad for esports???
He off-races against protoss even in our regular tournaments. He dislikes playing PvP or feels more comfortable playing ZvP.
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Title: Playhem Showmatch #1: coLMinigun vs EGiNcontroL
Plot: Can iNcontroL defend his pride and honor or will the cute off-racing rascal take it from him?
Genres: War I Drama I Thriller I + Show Spoiler +
This is a community must-see. You may slap me silly and call me a norwegian, but this is bigger than the GSL and Blizzcon finals. xD
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On October 24 2011 05:47 AlternativeEgo wrote:Title: Playhem Showmatch #1: coLMinigun vs EGiNcontroL Plot: Can iNcontroL defend his pride and honor or will the cute off-racing rascal take it from him? Genres: War I Drama I Thriller I + Show Spoiler +This is a community must-see. You may slap me silly and call me a norwegian, but this is bigger than the GSL and Blizzcon finals. xD
LOL! You sir, are hilarious :D!!!
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I love Geoff but I don't think he's going to win.
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Should be a pretty even match, I went with minigun because I think he's the better player but with him going zerg i think it could end up going either way.
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Minigun is fucking adorable. GUGUGU CHAD!
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Incontrol better win against someone off racing...
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Voted for Minigun before realizing he was going Z. That said, he should still come out on top depending on how seriously he takes this. I do expect Incontrol to win a couple of games though mainly do to Minigun trying some cute Zerg things. Should be entertaining...
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I'm actually kinda excited for this. Not in the usual way but in some odd, fetischistic fashion.
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People need to relax. It's a showmatch. It's for entertainment. It really has no relevance for anything other than that regardless of the result.
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On October 22 2011 04:06 xCenasfu wrote:
They had to introduce payment for loser for Incontrol to agree
ye seems like
what else reason for paying the defeated in an showmatch?
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Minigun offracing > Incontrol post-team house training.
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On October 24 2011 06:49 The Void wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 04:06 xCenasfu wrote:
They had to introduce payment for loser for Incontrol to agree ye seems like what else reason for paying the defeated in an shiwmatch?
Don't they usually do that? I know for one the high profile showmatches always pay the loser, because showmatches don't carry the same prestige (or prizes) as titles so the players both need incentives to participate. It's not like a tournament where you're only a failure if you lose every single game in a row.
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It's not like a tournament where you're only a failure if you lose every single game in a row.
Not sure if intentional, but bravo if so.
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5 minutes before and stream isn't up, is this still goin down?
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On October 24 2011 06:55 Balgrog wrote:
5 minutes before and stream isn't up, is this still goin down?
I would think so there is no reason to assume its not, sometimes they can be a little slow getting the stream going wait until its time to start im sure the stream will be up by then
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On October 24 2011 06:55 Balgrog wrote:
5 minutes before and stream isn't up, is this still goin down?
It'll be up now, one of our casters was a bit later
On October 24 2011 06:49 The Void wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 04:06 xCenasfu wrote:
They had to introduce payment for loser for Incontrol to agree ye seems like what else reason for paying the defeated in an showmatch?
That's the prize structure we'll be using for all our show matches in the series, we decided on it before picking these players.
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Chad is gonna take this EZ.
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I hate playing offracers. If you beat them, you haven't beaten them, and if you lose to them, you've done more than lose.
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I would have tried to do a stronger 2 base all in. This map is terrible and simply killing a 3rd for so many zealots is a terrible move.
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1.3k take your 3rd incontrol
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Yeah...Incontrol is done. Minigun is expanding heavily and Incontrol is just massing up units, losing them, and falling even more behind. His window for winning was gone five minutes ago.
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Why is he refusing to take his 3rd?
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Minigun's zerg is beating incontrol?
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On October 24 2011 07:19 HappyChris wrote:
Why is he refusing to take his 3rd?
because its a terrible map to take a 3rd as toss. Taking the 3rd is basically losing vs Zerg on this map.
Then again he doesnt have much of a chance otherwise now and should have done something like a 2 base mothership rush 6 gate all in.
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On October 24 2011 07:19 HappyChris wrote:
Why is he refusing to take his 3rd?
I think he was trying to do a mass timing attack to win...then failed...so he tried it again...and failed. He's very stubborn.
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"He's going to have some nice upgrades going, +1 armor"
"Meanwhile, Minigun has +3 +3"
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To be honest the amount of hate on incontrol in the chat is disgusting.
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On October 24 2011 07:21 ZeromuS wrote:
To be honest the amount of hate on incontrol in the chat is disgusting.
Balances the caster bias? Reading stream chats almost always hurts brain cells.
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wtf commentator trying to protect players for losing, showmatch is a showmatch but you still play to win.
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Game 1
Mini took his third at the 5th minute and iNc at 18th.
Mini made more stuff and iNc called gg in the 23rd.
..and yes, there were DT's.
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On October 24 2011 07:24 nekuodah wrote:
wtf commentator trying to protect players for losing, showmatch is a showmatch but you still play to win.
There were a lot of trolls in chat but I agree if both players aren't playing to win then it's not a showmatch.
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On October 24 2011 07:21 ZeromuS wrote:
To be honest the amount of hate on incontrol in the chat is disgusting.
Totally agree. The hate against Incontrol is just pathetic. They shoudl just shut down the chat
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Hm.. I dunno why, but I've always thought that Minigun was a protoss player xD Gl hf both, btw~
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On October 24 2011 07:27 arew wrote:
Hm.. I dunno why, but I've always thought that Minigun was a protoss player xD Gl hf both, btw~
He is protoss hes just zerging it up for this showmatch, but hes a damn good zerg too.
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On October 24 2011 07:29 nekuodah wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 07:27 arew wrote:
Hm.. I dunno why, but I've always thought that Minigun was a protoss player xD Gl hf both, btw~ He is protoss hes just zerging it up for this showmatch, but hes a damn good zerg too.
Oh, ok. Thanks then :D guess I was right then. Hoping for a good games 
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On October 24 2011 07:29 nekuodah wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 07:27 arew wrote:
Hm.. I dunno why, but I've always thought that Minigun was a protoss player xD Gl hf both, btw~ He is protoss hes just zerging it up for this showmatch, but hes a damn good zerg too.
Yeah he has GM level zerg and GM level protoss.
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Why is he committing soo much to those cannons up top...
5 cannons/4 sentrys?
All it is doing is stopping mining from 2-3 mineral patches..
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I can't help it, but every time I watch Incontrol play he actually seems to get worse. He was kinda solid some months ago but now...
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Casters trying so hard to find something positive to talk about... it's a bit painful.
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I fucking don't understand Incontrol seriously. Loosing too many units for nothing, if he had 7 gate plain and simple, he would have crushed minigun hidden 3rd... And he have no expand.
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no wonder incontrol complains about zerg. he's really bad -_
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On October 24 2011 07:34 Chewbacca. wrote:
Why is he committing soo much to those cannons up top...
5 cannons/4 sentrys?
All it is doing is stopping mining from 2-3 mineral patches..
He seems kind of lost and without much confidence. seems like he's not sure what his playstyle should be and hes just kind of winging it.
I hope incontrol can get it back together and do well.
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I like Incontrol as a person, but I don't understand this play at all, it is painful how 1 sided this is. Floating 600-1000 minerals and never taking down rocks and trying to take a 3rd and 4th.
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hmmm interesting showmatch O.o
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Incontrol's playstyle is so confusing...just play macro or do a strong timing attack.
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On October 24 2011 07:37 RogerChillingworth wrote:
no wonder incontrol complains about zerg. he's really bad -_
I laughed so much at that lol.
Incontrol is not that bad, he is just a bit shakky...
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On October 24 2011 07:25 HappyChris wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 07:21 ZeromuS wrote:
To be honest the amount of hate on incontrol in the chat is disgusting. Totally agree. The hate against Incontrol is just pathetic. They shoudl just shut down the chat
Every chat ends up like this unfortunately. Chat is probably one of the worst features Twitch.tv has, not because it lacks functionality but because it is incredibly easy to troll, get banned and create a new account in 30 seconds to continue the bullshit.
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This is not the Incontrol I used to watch it seems he have totally lost all his confidence.
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minigun beating incontrol with zerg o.o....EZPZ
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On October 24 2011 07:38 ZeromuS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 07:34 Chewbacca. wrote:
Why is he committing soo much to those cannons up top...
5 cannons/4 sentrys?
All it is doing is stopping mining from 2-3 mineral patches.. He seems kind of lost and without much confidence. seems like he's not sure what his playstyle should be and hes just kind of winging it. I hope incontrol can get it back together and do well.
I think he has a serious issue with his confidence, I can't believe he actually as bad as he make it seems right now... those canons were just sad  . I think he knows that people are going to give him a lot of shit for month for losing to minigun offracing.
I'm sad that it will fuel the haters
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Game 2
iNc cannoned up his and Mini's natural. Mini went for the ninja, whitch later on also gets some cannons. So many cannons.
Stalker vs Roaches in the 15th minute. Roaches liked.
Mutas made them company and iNc gg's.
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This is not a tournament so it's natural iNcontroL wouldn't take this as serious, but I gotta say that his play seems a little worse than just a few months ago. I wish he would win, it would be so good for him, but with play like this I don't see him taking out most of the GMs on the ladder even.
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If he just played standard I'm sure he could win...but between pylons/cannons/warping in units up north he spent almost 2k resources for a cannon rush that did nothing. Then he also was just sloppy with his initial stalkers moving them out to be surrounded by lings.
I really want to see Incontrol play as well as I know he can. :-(
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Wtf zerg? Is mini trolling Inc?
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you have not enough minerals!
edit: oops another stream i had opened had the sound on, i thought it was this one -_- i'm stupid 
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On October 24 2011 07:40 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 07:25 HappyChris wrote:On October 24 2011 07:21 ZeromuS wrote:
To be honest the amount of hate on incontrol in the chat is disgusting. Totally agree. The hate against Incontrol is just pathetic. They shoudl just shut down the chat Every chat ends up like this unfortunately. Chat is probably one of the worst features Twitch.tv has, not because it lacks functionality but because it is incredibly easy to troll, get banned and create a new account in 30 seconds to continue the bullshit.
Why? He is so vocal about the game and is so involved in e-sports, complains about balance when asked (complained about fungal endlessly) and then turns around and does all of these really retarded builds with poor execution.
If he just played straight up and tried his best, fewer people would doll out the hate. Even if he lost.
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Caster is so happy that he's using a void ray to take out destructible rocks...
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
I'm with Day9 on this one. When you watch iNc's stream, he plays macro games all the time. He doesn't play the best macro games in the world, but he's certainly not awful at it; he's still a sponsored pro because he was a strong BW player and has had some good results in Sc2. But for some reason, at MLG's and now here, he just relies on these really awful builds like game two's sorry mass gate and mass cannon game. The cannon's at Minigun's third were utterly useless, he build at least a nexus and a half to deny a few mineral patches for a four hatchery zerg mining the gold base. That makes no sense. Then he let his army get cornered, and never blinked out and turtled to take a third. I have no idea what that game was, it made absolutely no sense. Elfi plays three base turtle style at 100 apm, there's no reason iNc couldn't do the same easily. I hope EG gives the same amount of attention to iNc as they did to IdrA recently.
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Haven't seen minigun play in a while. Really impressed on how much his mechanics improved. Didn't know he played zerg vP too
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The casters arent really keeping up. There are 9 mutas being made as the voidrays are moving out :/
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Incontrol shouldn't have agreed to this showmatch. I consider Minigun to be better than Destiny, and we know how Destiny's showmatch ended up. Having Minigun offracing (albeit a damn good offracing) is just a lose-lose situation. If he wins, then it's because Minigun was offracing; if he loses, well his reputation as a player sinks even lower.
Incontrol PvZ was great at the start of the year, but now his "sharking" strategies are easily handled, and he's at a loss at handling infestors or any zerg that gets to a macro advantage.
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On October 24 2011 07:49 tree.hugger wrote:
I'm with Day9 on this one. When you watch iNc's stream, he plays macro games all the time. He doesn't play the best macro games in the world, but he's certainly not awful at it; he's still a sponsored pro because he was a strong BW player and has had some good results in Sc2. But for some reason, at MLG's and now here, he just relies on these really awful builds like game two's sorry mass gate and mass cannon game. The cannon's at Minigun's third were utterly useless, he build at least a nexus and a half to deny a few mineral patches for a four hatchery zerg mining the gold base. That makes no sense. Then he let his army get cornered, and never blinked out and turtled to take a third. I have no idea what that game was, it made absolutely no sense. Elfi plays three base turtle style at 100 apm, there's no reason iNc couldn't do the same easily.
I think he is next up on EG to work on his mental demons. Idra had a hard time keeping his cool. Inc has a hard time just playing his own standard game.
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If you ignore lifting those lings which was awfully silly, iNcontroL is playing fairly well this game. Minigun has quite the army at this point though.
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What a surprise, Incontrol is losing 0-something.
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Why is he making immortals?
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I think we need to point out how well Minigun is playing. ling, into muta into hydra nydus back into mutalisks all while getting 90 workers and up to 4 base.
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On October 24 2011 07:54 Brainiac wrote:
What a surprise, Incontrol is losing 0-something.
The surprise is that he was a good enough seed to even qualify for this showmatch
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WTF "solid forcefield"... think I might have to mute the rest of this.
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The hell is minigun doing. See loads of collossi + phoenixes, let's make mutas.
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Wait, so Incontrol is losing to Miniguns offrace? rofl
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On October 24 2011 07:57 Derez wrote:
The hell is minigun doing. See loads of collossi + phoenixes, let's make mutas.
It doesn't even matter what he's doing. He could facesmash the keyboard while on the larva hotkey and still win .
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Game 3 is pretty good, Incontrol got a pretty good composition...
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lmao minigun gift wrapped the win to incontrol by going mass mutas against 2 stargate/ 2 robo phoenix/colossus but he's still gonna easily win
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The fucked up thing is incontrol couldn't stop building nexuses in the beta. Was one of the ONLY big macro protosses in the game and had good success with it--at least showcased good games.
Apparently his teammate HuK hasn't opened his eyes on how to PvZ, or he is just too stubborn to actually adopt the smart way to play the matchup.
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to people speculating, minigun plays zerg a lot. Its not like hes just offracing to troll. Still sad to see incontrol losing though, I agree that he should go for macro games because its where his strength lies. On his stream you see him doing crazy good things, like warp prism + dt harass.
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lmao minigun is feeling sorry for incontrol and giving him this game
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Minigun needs to stop playing around and build some corruptors.
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Minigun doesn't like corrupters...
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Why doesn't he build a few corruptors? Incontrol has no anti air whatsoever...
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Yeah...I think I give up watching after that game lol
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Both players playing a little flaky, but good game overall.
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23rd October 2011 - Terminus SE
I was there
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minigun isn't retarded. he gave incontrol the game
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The casters made it seem like Incontrol beat MVP or something
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A little bit of zerg inexperience showing from Minigun I think, he had it won.
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"Point of contention!" Casters so happy.
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weird moveouts and attack timings from incontrol (ie not 200/200) ... still worked i guess
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Incontrol can do it imo, he is not that good at the moment, but with all the trash on him, I will start to cheer for him I think.
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Nice from Incontrol. Doesn't matter how he won, the important thing is that he won and winning gives confidence! If he can take this series, silly as it is I think it will help him so so much.
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Game 3
Mini made early lings and killed 7 probes.
iNc got his second way before Mini and their thirds about the same time.
Voids and phoenixes vs Mutas. Mutas bad.
Nydus loaded with Hydras who comes in waves. Colossi shuts it down.
7 base zerg madness and DT's greets one of them.
iNc's lazor towers melts zerg ezpz and Mini taps out after 30+ minutes.
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Is Minigun switching his main race to zerg? Or is he still protoss main?
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Wish I could see the end of a game. These goons keep playing ads before I see a final engagement.
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On October 24 2011 08:06 DamageControL wrote:
Is Minigun switching his main race to zerg? Or is he still protoss main?
Nah hes not switching i guess hed rather not play pvp in a showmatch, hes GM level zerg though so dont take it as trolling.
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what happened? 6 pool? why didn't incontrl get a cannon in the main?
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Mini's push with the 5+ ultras at Incontrol's 4th base killed him. He lost supply at a rate of 4 or 5:1 cause he funneled an attack into a small area against collosi. Not sure why he hasn't gone baneling drops I thought it was his signature ZvP.
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Since when has mingun played zerg?
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On October 24 2011 08:08 scarper65 wrote:
Since when has mingun played zerg?
How many times is this going to be asked this thread?
Minigun plays zerg at a ~GM level. Zerg is not his main race, he is just off racing for this showmatch. Probably figured a PvP showmatch was boring so he'd do a ZvP.
He isn't just trolling, he plays Z a decent amount.
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gogo Incontrol!!! Love them both tho
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this streamer is pissing me off with the income tab being open 90% of the time
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Lol here we go again. And I bet Incontrol goes DT after...
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WTF...again he is putting down like 2 pylons/6 cannons and warping in several sentries just to deny 2-3 mineral patches. That is not a good trade..
I don't know why he likes doing that. I mean if it could hit the hatchery and potentially kill the expo it would be one thing but all it did was shut down a few patches for like 1 minute.
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omg, these cannons again...
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Why did he make 6 cannons up there
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weird decision to invest so much into those cannons barely killing any drones :/
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Oracle will be a good unit for him.
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Fairly solid composition from iNcontroL this game. Let's see how he deals with those drops.
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Whoa! Minigun switched to zerg?! When did this happen? o_O
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hydras are sooooo bad
should be the 2-2
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On October 24 2011 08:10 Chewbacca. wrote:How many times is this going to be asked this thread? Minigun plays zerg at a ~GM level. Zerg is not his main race, he is just off racing for this showmatch. Probably figured a PvP showmatch was boring so he'd do a ZvP. He isn't just trolling, he plays Z a decent amount.
Seriously...read the thread.
Whoever mentioned the oracles, you're right those will be good for Incontrol. It will basiaclly accomplish what he is doing with these cannons but cost a lot less.
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Really like the multiple warp prisms though!
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On October 24 2011 08:17 imPERSONater wrote:
Really like the multiple warp prisms though!
He wasn't watching the top one though, losing a warp prism to a spore crawler.
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On October 24 2011 08:17 Chewbacca. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 08:10 Chewbacca. wrote:On October 24 2011 08:08 scarper65 wrote:
Since when has mingun played zerg? How many times is this going to be asked this thread? Minigun plays zerg at a ~GM level. Zerg is not his main race, he is just off racing for this showmatch. Probably figured a PvP showmatch was boring so he'd do a ZvP. He isn't just trolling, he plays Z a decent amount. Seriously...read the thread. Whoever mentioned the oracles, you're right those will be good for Incontrol. It will basiaclly accomplish what he is doing with these cannons but cost a lot less.
Also don't require micro.
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Yeah, should have done much more with it. The caster had more apm keeping an eye on them :D
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no way Minigun gets to broods in time
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On October 24 2011 08:19 theBizness wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 08:17 Chewbacca. wrote:On October 24 2011 08:10 Chewbacca. wrote:On October 24 2011 08:08 scarper65 wrote:
Since when has mingun played zerg? How many times is this going to be asked this thread? Minigun plays zerg at a ~GM level. Zerg is not his main race, he is just off racing for this showmatch. Probably figured a PvP showmatch was boring so he'd do a ZvP. He isn't just trolling, he plays Z a decent amount. Seriously...read the thread. Whoever mentioned the oracles, you're right those will be good for Incontrol. It will basiaclly accomplish what he is doing with these cannons but cost a lot less. Also don't require micro.
I understand that you are just trying to bash InControl...which is a stupid thing to do...but if you must bash him, atleast don't do it with stupid comments such as that....
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Incontrol is everywhere nice game
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He needs to go kill Minigun though, he can't just sit for too long.
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The castersjust said archons are bad vs. Roaches. They do just as much damage as immortals almost and are more versatile vs hive units than immortals.
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If Incontrol attacks right this second, I'm pretty sure he'll win. Hopefully he doesnt wait til broodlords are out...
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On October 24 2011 08:21 teide wrote:
Incontrol is everywhere nice game
Indeed, both games where he actually tries to play a macro style he does well. He should just stick with this style and stop trying to do so many warpgate timing pushes.
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Being realistic Chewbacca, easier for him to control/more cost effective that than his cannon sim cities.
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Archon toilet has been making a comeback lately!
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Incontrol is playing really well. And I'm pretty happy about it <3
go incontrol!
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On October 24 2011 08:24 jakek95 wrote:
Sick archon toilet!
I'm happy that InControl won, but being a zerg player I am never happy when I see an archon toliet.
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Archon toilet so silly lol. Minigun played very poor though. At least incontrol is playing slightly better.
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Incontrol could have ended the game like 10 minute ago, when he already had 4 colossus against 40 zergling and 10 roach...
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Game 4
iNc made a lot of different stuff and Mini made lings.
Cannons nom nom.
Mini dropped a lot of Hydras who all got killed for a measly robotics facility.
iNc responds with a boss-drop.
Momaship, Colossi, Archons and Stalkers vs B-lords, Corruptors and Roaches.
Vortex pwnage. iNc wins.
2-2
Edit: DT's? Oh yeah.
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Can someone tell these guys to not run ads before the end of the game? Pretty annoying.
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On October 24 2011 08:26 WhiteDog wrote:
Incontrol could have ended the game like 10 minute ago, when he already had 4 colossus against 40 zergling and 10 roach...
i guess incontrol gave minigun to much credit, thinking he remaxed his army instantly...
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Archon toilet is actually one way to deal with huge broodlord numbers. I don't find it imba or something... Just good combination of units and spells
Good game by Incontrol... maybe a comeback ?
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risky stuff from inc -- there's no way to stop a cancel if minigun wanted it
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Ahh my name is incontrol, I have 2 voidrays and a phoenix on the way. Let's begin the harass! Oh I see an evolution chamber, lets hit it.. to charge up? No lets just hit it until we're charged and the queens get here and start attacking us but I REALLY WANT TO KILL THAT EVOLUTION CHAMBER oh wait I've got to run.
Edit: Yes i'm retarded.
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On October 24 2011 08:37 ZeaL. wrote:
Ahh my name is minigun, I have 2 voidrays and a phoenix on the way. Let's begin the harass! Oh I see an evolution chamber, lets hit it.. to charge up? No lets just hit it until we're charged and the queens get here and start attacking us but I REALLY WANT TO KILL THAT EVOLUTION CHAMBER oh wait I've got to run.
you mean my name is incontrol?
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Mini played well, though his infestor control leaves something to be desired, lost quite a few unnecessary infestors. It is his offrace though so how much can you really criticize it.
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Game 5 on Metalopolis (yeah I know that one)
6 minute stargate gave birth to a Void ray who got company.
Mini wins early game on points.
iNc takes the mid game with force fields and lazorz.
Big battle gets a draw and iNc sends out the DT's.
Mini makes more stuff and forces iNc to gg.
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On October 24 2011 08:28 Crashburn wrote:
Can someone tell these guys to not run ads before the end of the game? Pretty annoying.
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early stargate out of 1 base is not that good :/
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On October 24 2011 08:29 Pr0wler wrote:Archon toilet is actually one way to deal with huge broodlord numbers. I don't find it imba or something... Just good combination of units and spells Good game by Incontrol... maybe a comeback ?
It just feels a little too "cheap". Not about it being IMBA really but more to do that it's literally one spell that destroys 1000's of resources and not necessarily rewarding skill. Even Irradiating muta's in BW the Zerg with enough skill could completely neglect a lot of the damage and just lose one muta if he split fast enough.
With vortex there isn't a back and forth there, it's just cast and then you take it. Just not interesting.
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I hope whoever is observing these games this can read this thread and realize they need to pay way more attention to action and actually watch the minimap.
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Yes incontrol looking in better shape recently. Hope he continues to improve
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On October 24 2011 08:56 Divinek wrote:
I hope whoever is observing these games this can read this thread and realize they need to pay way more attention to action and actually watch the minimap.
yes pls. made me rage like 2 times already
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On October 24 2011 08:56 Divinek wrote:
I hope whoever is observing these games this can read this thread and realize they need to pay way more attention to action and actually watch the minimap.
This. Either get a dedicated observer or pay attention to the minimap.
It is extremely aggravating to see battles on the minimap while the casters joke around, box workers and talk about overseer gunk falling into pits.
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On October 24 2011 08:56 Divinek wrote:
I hope whoever is observing these games this can read this thread and realize they need to pay way more attention to action and actually watch the minimap.
Thumbs up. Casters having trouble catching all the action should watch BW reps. B/c you don't have any tabs, you have to fly around the map and figure out what's going on.
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This is some of the oddest commentary ever.
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lmao, incontrol and his 1 control group syndrome.. i would really love to see him pay more attention to detail, its an obvious flaw in his game play.
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how is this game even close after the opening
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wow minigun threw that one away. O_O
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minigun with really bad infestor control
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Why is minigun playing zerg ?
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I really don't think these casters have ever played this game.
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I'm confused. Is Minigun offracing, and still beating InControl??
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Why no void rays incontrol ? why not killing minigun's expand incontrol ?
Don't understand your play man!
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This observer is obsessed with zooming in on stargates.
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On October 24 2011 09:04 MrDudeMan wrote:
This is some of the oddest commentary ever.
I just think it's the result of the casters being quite low level players themselves. They have no depth in their analysis at all, and even their simple conclusions lack quite a bit.
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oh god what am i watching.
it's like they both want to throw the game away.
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i dont want to just "hate", but the casting of this game is really awfull.
Please try to interact with the other caster, open the production tab if you dont point anything out, stop with the zooming in(...) and please try to look for drops and runbys.
Also dont judge the game just from the supplycount, like in game 3; inc. was behind in supply but had the way superior armycomposition, so the yelling of minigun being "waaay ahead" was in no situation true.
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44 kill on that immortal lol
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Thats a pretty crazy game =O
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On October 24 2011 09:10 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
I'm confused. Is Minigun offracing, and still beating InControl??
yes. the weird part is i'm not exactly surprised.
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On October 24 2011 09:11 Mouzone wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 09:04 MrDudeMan wrote:
This is some of the oddest commentary ever. I just think it's the result of the casters being quite low level players themselves. They have no depth in their analysis at all, and even their simple conclusions lack quite a bit.
What level are they? Diamond?
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On October 24 2011 09:12 Chocolate wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 09:11 Mouzone wrote:On October 24 2011 09:04 MrDudeMan wrote:
This is some of the oddest commentary ever. I just think it's the result of the casters being quite low level players themselves. They have no depth in their analysis at all, and even their simple conclusions lack quite a bit. What level are they? Diamond?
Silver, by my guess.
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i dunno about continuously calling it "the board"
it's a map yo.
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On October 24 2011 09:12 Chocolate wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 09:11 Mouzone wrote:On October 24 2011 09:04 MrDudeMan wrote:
This is some of the oddest commentary ever. I just think it's the result of the casters being quite low level players themselves. They have no depth in their analysis at all, and even their simple conclusions lack quite a bit. What level are they? Diamond?
Honestly it would surprise me if even that. Some of the stuff they say is mindboggling.
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On October 24 2011 09:13 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 09:12 Chocolate wrote:On October 24 2011 09:11 Mouzone wrote:On October 24 2011 09:04 MrDudeMan wrote:
This is some of the oddest commentary ever. I just think it's the result of the casters being quite low level players themselves. They have no depth in their analysis at all, and even their simple conclusions lack quite a bit. What level are they? Diamond? Silver, by my guess.
lolol that's ridiculous
Edit:http://www.sc2ranks.com/search/starts/all/tumbalooks like he is either gold or silver
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holy shit. minigun with worst infestor control ever?
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epic game! really fun to watch. iNcontrol HWAITING
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lol guess Minigun's Zerg inexperience showed in that engagement
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That was awful play by minigun.
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What the heck was minigun doing haha.
I just tuned in. Has he been playing zerg the whole time? And if so, did he switch to zerg in these last few weeks or is this pure offracing?
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Game 6
Roches and 'Lings destroys iNc's main before the 10 minute mark. Cannons saves his natural.
iNc works to recover and Mini expands.
Double stargate to rule the sky.
..for a while.
Mini gave iNc the win.
Manner iNc gave it back.
Mini declines.
3-3
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lose main nexus, no problem. cant believe he won that game. woot incontrol!
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I'm surprised almost 10k people are watching this.
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i like the casters. refreshing and funny
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On October 24 2011 09:10 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
I'm confused. Is Minigun offracing, and still beating InControl??
From my understanding, Minigun offraces as zerg quite often. His protoss is still superior but his zerg is pretty good too. Ive seen some games where he barely loses to idra in zvzs.
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super horrible play by both players. Minigun needs to pick one race and stick with it. His control of infestors was C-. Seriously they where running next to the colossus. It's hard to watch this series and not feel bad. The casters are really bad as well and obviously very new to SC2
It really makes me sad to see the level of foreign players in SC2. Just a few gems and the rest are rocks.
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On October 24 2011 09:13 nvs. wrote:
i dunno about continuously calling it "the board"
it's a map yo.
thank dustin browder
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On October 24 2011 08:48 Crashburn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 08:28 Crashburn wrote:
Can someone tell these guys to not run ads before the end of the game? Pretty annoying.
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WOW Minigun bodged that game so hard. He had that won 100%, i have no idea how he lost that o0
Last 20-25 minutes were a pain to watch tbh.
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that was some really bad play from minigun. incontrol completely abusing miniguns lack of late game knowledge right there. Also minigun's zerg macro is really subpar for the level of protoss that he plays.
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On October 24 2011 09:15 SiguR wrote:
What the heck was minigun doing haha.
I just tuned in. Has he been playing zerg the whole time? And if so, did he switch to zerg in these last few weeks or is this pure offracing?
he likes to play ZvP. I've seen him play Z quite a bit in the KOTH's on friday nights
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On October 24 2011 09:16 Crashburn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 08:48 Crashburn wrote:On October 24 2011 08:28 Crashburn wrote:
Can someone tell these guys to not run ads before the end of the game? Pretty annoying.
I haven't seen one commercial cutting off the end of the game...
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On October 24 2011 09:15 Angelbelow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 09:10 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
I'm confused. Is Minigun offracing, and still beating InControl?? From my understanding, Minigun offraces as zerg quite often. His protoss is still superior but his zerg is pretty good too. Ive seen some games where he barely loses to idra in zvzs.
Yeah, he also beated idra twice on a zvz
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On October 24 2011 09:17 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 09:16 Crashburn wrote:On October 24 2011 08:48 Crashburn wrote:On October 24 2011 08:28 Crashburn wrote:
Can someone tell these guys to not run ads before the end of the game? Pretty annoying. I haven't seen one commercial cutting off the end of the game...
turn off adblock
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On October 24 2011 09:17 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 09:16 Crashburn wrote:On October 24 2011 08:48 Crashburn wrote:On October 24 2011 08:28 Crashburn wrote:
Can someone tell these guys to not run ads before the end of the game? Pretty annoying. I haven't seen one commercial cutting off the end of the game...
Yeah, I haven't either.
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Inc plays much better when he just turtles, gets a third, and goes for colossus. Instead of doing timing attacks and cannon rushes.
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On October 24 2011 09:18 Chewbacca. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 09:17 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 24 2011 09:16 Crashburn wrote:On October 24 2011 08:48 Crashburn wrote:On October 24 2011 08:28 Crashburn wrote:
Can someone tell these guys to not run ads before the end of the game? Pretty annoying. I haven't seen one commercial cutting off the end of the game... Yeah, I haven't either.
If you're getting the commercials during the game your stream may have fallen behind (try refreshing periodically, like between games to catch up). The commercials are not synced with the video, they play for everyone whenever the button is pressed.
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On October 24 2011 09:20 godulous wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 09:18 Chewbacca. wrote:On October 24 2011 09:17 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 24 2011 09:16 Crashburn wrote:On October 24 2011 08:48 Crashburn wrote:On October 24 2011 08:28 Crashburn wrote:
Can someone tell these guys to not run ads before the end of the game? Pretty annoying. I haven't seen one commercial cutting off the end of the game... Yeah, I haven't either. If you're getting the commercials during the game your stream may have fallen behind (try refreshing periodically, like between games to catch up). The commercials are not synced with the video, they play for everyone whenever the button is pressed.
I've reloaded the stream like 15 times though
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double roach warren burrow timing, lets see if that works out
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i'm so happy for incontrol he won more than one game!!
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incontrol should win this
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Not sure if minigun blundered the 2nd roachwarren and now decided to go burrowed roaches.
But he seriously is out of his game after last games midgame, really lacking macro that early in the game on 2 bases
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Woot, goooo Geoff. <3 
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Im honestly shocked Minigun won more than 1 game. Did inc really drop the ball in the first few or something?
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Woot yaaaaaaaaa InControl, coming back from 0-2.
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Congrats to iNcontroL. Fun showmatch! will look forward to more Playhem showmatches.
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On October 24 2011 09:27 Lamphead wrote:
i'm so happy for incontrol he won more than one game!!
He won the series.
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nice games, good to see geoff win
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On October 24 2011 09:18 Crashburn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 09:17 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 24 2011 09:16 Crashburn wrote:On October 24 2011 08:48 Crashburn wrote:On October 24 2011 08:28 Crashburn wrote:
Can someone tell these guys to not run ads before the end of the game? Pretty annoying. I haven't seen one commercial cutting off the end of the game... turn off adblock
dont have ad block. and i was watching on my phone the first 5 games.
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Minigun zerg is pretty poor. Its good that incontrol won, hopefully he'll gain some confidence again, but its not good that it looked like he was struggling at times against such a poor opponent. He looked good in that last game though!
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On October 24 2011 09:22 Crashburn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 09:20 godulous wrote:On October 24 2011 09:18 Chewbacca. wrote:On October 24 2011 09:17 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 24 2011 09:16 Crashburn wrote:On October 24 2011 08:48 Crashburn wrote:On October 24 2011 08:28 Crashburn wrote:
Can someone tell these guys to not run ads before the end of the game? Pretty annoying. I haven't seen one commercial cutting off the end of the game... Yeah, I haven't either. If you're getting the commercials during the game your stream may have fallen behind (try refreshing periodically, like between games to catch up). The commercials are not synced with the video, they play for everyone whenever the button is pressed. I've reloaded the stream like 15 times though
Pretty sure it depends on your region. I'm in the UK and haven't had any.
Incontrol fighting!
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On October 24 2011 09:32 1Eris1 wrote:
Im honestly shocked Minigun won more than 1 game. Did inc really drop the ball in the first few or something?
Basically he went for non-macro games and lost. After the 2nd game he went for macro games and won.
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Very confusing bo7. InControl barely winning against a low-tier NA pro who's offracing on top of that. O_o
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ACE MATCH
Z supply vs. P supply
@10: 77 - 66
@12: 112 - 109
@14: 129 - 127
@16: 163 - 155
@18: 163 - 162
FIIIIIIGHT!!!!
@19: 50 - 150
coLMinigun 3-4 EGiNcontroL
The End
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On October 24 2011 09:33 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Very confusing bo7. InControl barely winning against a low-tier NA pro who's offracing on top of that. O_o
Minigun plays a ton of zerg. He is kind of like morrow in that he plays ZvP instead of PvP a lot.
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Amazing win, Incontrol! Epic comeback and super fun to watch! Keep up the hard work bro! Also, loved the series Playhem. See ya next week!
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On October 24 2011 09:33 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Very confusing bo7. InControl barely winning against a low-tier NA pro who's offracing on top of that. O_o
I wouldn't call minigun low-tier NA or his Zerg as off racing
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Minigun's zerg is pretty good. Taking incontrol to 7 games with an offrace shows he's been practicing zerg a little too much xD.
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On October 24 2011 09:33 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Very confusing bo7. InControl barely winning against a low-tier NA pro who's offracing on top of that. O_o
^^ Minigun as a protoss is doing really well and is doing way better than incontrol right now, so hes not really any low-tier NA pro.
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nice, GG. nice to see him win this show much. And again, Mini plays zerg quite a bit, his protoss is definitely better, but his Zerg is nothing to underestimate.
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On October 24 2011 01:06 cklrkzk wrote:
iNcontroL is bonjwa of the my heart.Go iNcontroL Go!!!!!!!!!!!
ez <3
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On October 24 2011 09:36 Yosen3002 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 09:33 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Very confusing bo7. InControl barely winning against a low-tier NA pro who's offracing on top of that. O_o ^^ Minigun as a protoss is doing really well and is doing way better than incontrol right now, so hes not really any low-tier NA pro.
A lot better than InControl? Does either one of them really have any accomplishments in tournaments and such?
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On October 24 2011 09:37 Chewbacca. wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 09:36 Yosen3002 wrote:On October 24 2011 09:33 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Very confusing bo7. InControl barely winning against a low-tier NA pro who's offracing on top of that. O_o ^^ Minigun as a protoss is doing really well and is doing way better than incontrol right now, so hes not really any low-tier NA pro. A lot better than InControl? Does either one of them really have any accomplishments in tournaments and such?
i edited before you quoted
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Thats the thing with NA ladder, you could call Minigun a low tier pro but he isn't a low tier compared to most NA pros.
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On October 24 2011 09:34 AlternativeEgo wrote:
ACE MATCH
Z supply vs. P supply
@10: 77 - 66
@12: 112 - 109
@14: 129 - 127
@16: 163 - 155
@18: 163 - 162
FIIIIIIGHT!!!!
@19: 50 - 150
coLMinigun 3-4 EGiNcontroL
The End
you're right, supply counts tell all
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Yeah incontrol!
lets make this the first of many
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Congrats to iNcontroL, I did not expect these results haha.
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I know my zerg is subpar from my protoss...but it was probably more entertaining than 1-7 games of pvp no?
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lets also give it to minigun, played an awesome series.
This series showes that his zerg play is GM worthy, if he will refine his mechanics a bit more and gain some more experience with the zerg race he will be Crazy good with it
Grats to incontrol, WP by both :D
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Talk about practice bearing fruit! Incontrol has stepped up his game quite a bit. It's been great watching him play on korean server with all the manner bears over there instead of deezer harassing him 24/7. Very nice prism play, and I really like to see that he isn't using DT's as such a crutch. Rather he is being very calculated with them and sniping tech/hatches. GG's was VERY entertaining, thanks for the show Minigun, incontrol and playhem! Very well played by both! <3 <3 <3
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On October 24 2011 09:43 coL.Minigun wrote:
I know my zerg is subpar from my protoss...but it was probably more entertaining than 1-7 games of pvp no?
Yes for sure.
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was a lot of fun.. minigun's zvp is actually pretty good not sure where people get off saying it's subpar etc.. o_O
Sounds like I will be returning for the next one so I hope to continue to put on a good show! ty to all who watched.
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The fact that minigun almost won that series
shows the incontrol needs to do more work.
Not that im taking away his win
but recent showings at MLG shows whats up
When you lose to someones offrace
time to strap up or sit down
but I digress
a win is a win
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Great series, but as soon as Minigun lost his army at the third I knew it was GG.
It's funny looking back at all of the people hating on iNcontroL, and then he goes and wins the series /facepalm. Haters gonna hate.
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On October 24 2011 09:51 IOvEggY wrote:
The fact that minigun almost won that series
shows the incontrol needs to do more work.
Not that im taking away his win
but recent showings at MLG shows whats up
Dunno why you would mention that here though and im pretty sure Incontrol himself knows that already. o0
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On October 24 2011 09:51 BudgetTheLeech wrote:
Great series, but as soon as Minigun lost his army at the third I knew it was GG.
It's funny looking back at all of the people hating on iNcontroL, and then he goes and wins the series /facepalm. Haters gonna hate.
While this is true and a win is a win mini did offrace. You can't deny he would have done better if he didn't.
That saying his zerg is pretty high level but not as high as his toss I think.
Then again...PvP...who knows who would have won that o.o
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On October 24 2011 09:51 IOvEggY wrote:
The fact that minigun almost won that series
shows the incontrol needs to do more work.
Not that im taking away his win
but recent showings at MLG shows whats up
When you lose to someones offrace
time to strap up or sit down
but I digress
a win is a win
Was that written in meter? Because thats how I read it in my head.
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haters gonna hate. love both players and so glad to see you win incontrol, hard work is what brought this victory!!
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Very Good games Gratz to Inc, are there gonna be a replay pack of this games ?
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Damn, I had to leave before the end of game 3 :/ Glad to hear Inc won. Great job man; we know you're a great player and know you'll be back smashing tourneys!
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The series was actually pretty entertaining. Excited to see who incontrol is going to be playing next.
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On October 24 2011 09:49 iNcontroL wrote:
was a lot of fun.. minigun's zvp is actually pretty good not sure where people get off saying it's subpar etc.. o_O
Sounds like I will be returning for the next one so I hope to continue to put on a good show! ty to all who watched.
good stuff man, your patience paid off! good games :D
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I don't know if the sixth game was an amazing comeback from iNc or if it was the biggest giveaway from Mini, who seemed to have it in his pocket after that start to close the series 4-2.
Good entertainment nevertheless. Thanks for the show, guys.
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is there a way to get replays or vods?
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On October 24 2011 09:49 iNcontroL wrote:
was a lot of fun.. minigun's zvp is actually pretty good not sure where people get off saying it's subpar etc.. o_O
Sounds like I will be returning for the next one so I hope to continue to put on a good show! ty to all who watched.
Maybe his overall ZvP isn't that bad, but his control leaves a lot to be desired. He suicided so many full energy Infestors in those games. =(
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On October 24 2011 10:26 AlternativeEgo wrote:I don't know if the sixth game was an amazing comeback from iNc or if it was the biggest giveaway from Mini, who seemed to have it in his pocket after that start to close the series 4-2. Good entertainment nevertheless. Thanks for the show, guys.
It was more like Minigun got an extreme advantage, then threw it away by investing heavily in mutas (blindly) against iNcontroL's blind 2stargate phoenixes... a build order disadvantage so huge it made the game nearly even. Then Minigun's control proved to be much worse with Z than it is with P.
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Wow, I think that this is the first showmatch that I've seen incontrol win. Too bad it was against some player offracing
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On October 24 2011 10:58 ranjutan wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 10:26 AlternativeEgo wrote:I don't know if the sixth game was an amazing comeback from iNc or if it was the biggest giveaway from Mini, who seemed to have it in his pocket after that start to close the series 4-2. Good entertainment nevertheless. Thanks for the show, guys. It was more like Minigun got an extreme advantage, then threw it away by investing heavily in mutas (blindly) against iNcontroL's blind 2stargate phoenixes... a build order disadvantage so huge it made the game nearly even. Then Minigun's control proved to be much worse with Z than it is with P.
my 2 stargates weren't blind at all.. I scouted his spire o_O
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damn this showmatch really got playhem's viewship on their daily tournaments way up.. it's like 5x higher than usual (2500 as opposed to the 500 I usually see it has towards the end of it).
well done and great success! very much deserved from a great organization.
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On October 24 2011 11:16 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 10:58 ranjutan wrote:On October 24 2011 10:26 AlternativeEgo wrote:I don't know if the sixth game was an amazing comeback from iNc or if it was the biggest giveaway from Mini, who seemed to have it in his pocket after that start to close the series 4-2. Good entertainment nevertheless. Thanks for the show, guys. It was more like Minigun got an extreme advantage, then threw it away by investing heavily in mutas (blindly) against iNcontroL's blind 2stargate phoenixes... a build order disadvantage so huge it made the game nearly even. Then Minigun's control proved to be much worse with Z than it is with P. my 2 stargates weren't blind at all.. I scouted his spire o_O
I think that he is saying the heavy investment into mutas was blind. I may be wrong though.
Also, Congrats! Keep up the good work.
Edit: Ya nevermind, I re-read his post, I was wrong lol
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Lots of whiners on this board, not only did you get an entertaining showmatch for free. One of the participants even offraced so you would not be "forced" to watch a PvP. And so what if iNcontrol struggled to win, Iam pretty sure that not only did both aim to win, they also aimed to do so in entertaining fashion but without a really focusing their training on a showmatch. I really dont think either of them sat around the last 3-4 weeks training exclusively for this MU and opponent. Hence perhaps not the all so great games..
Props to both minigun and incontrol delivering good games for the community!
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I'm watching the VODs and I just want to say the observers are horrible. Stay on the action, we don't need to see the 7 gates morphing, we have the production tab.
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That was a nice PvZ. And Minigun is not a bad zerg player ^^.
Despite Incontrol having good decision making I felt that Minigun could have win more games by "just going fucking kill him".
GG guys, nevertheless.
On October 24 2011 11:16 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 10:58 ranjutan wrote:On October 24 2011 10:26 AlternativeEgo wrote:I don't know if the sixth game was an amazing comeback from iNc or if it was the biggest giveaway from Mini, who seemed to have it in his pocket after that start to close the series 4-2. Good entertainment nevertheless. Thanks for the show, guys. It was more like Minigun got an extreme advantage, then threw it away by investing heavily in mutas (blindly) against iNcontroL's blind 2stargate phoenixes... a build order disadvantage so huge it made the game nearly even. Then Minigun's control proved to be much worse with Z than it is with P. my 2 stargates weren't blind at all.. I scouted his spire o_O
That was the casters fault since they only gave us a look on the spire when it was already morphing in greater spire. And people might not noticed but when they showed us the GS they switched to your view to check if you knew about it and the map actually showed the image of the spire being morphed in the first place from when you scouted it. Then they switched to the all camera very quickly so many people may not realised it.
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On October 24 2011 11:16 iNcontroL wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 10:58 ranjutan wrote:On October 24 2011 10:26 AlternativeEgo wrote:I don't know if the sixth game was an amazing comeback from iNc or if it was the biggest giveaway from Mini, who seemed to have it in his pocket after that start to close the series 4-2. Good entertainment nevertheless. Thanks for the show, guys. It was more like Minigun got an extreme advantage, then threw it away by investing heavily in mutas (blindly) against iNcontroL's blind 2stargate phoenixes... a build order disadvantage so huge it made the game nearly even. Then Minigun's control proved to be much worse with Z than it is with P. my 2 stargates weren't blind at all.. I scouted his spire o_O
Good Job iNcontroL, I didnt get to watch the games but im glad you won. iNcontroL fighting!
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On October 24 2011 17:50 SimDawg wrote:
I'm watching the VODs and I just want to say the observers are horrible. Stay on the action, we don't need to see the 7 gates morphing, we have the production tab.
Sorry you didn't enjoy their obsing, but we'll be sure to pass on all feedback from this thread to them for future events (mainly keep the production tabs open and focus more on the fights). We also have several different casters that we rotate between for our events so perhaps you'll like one of those better
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ben ! geif replays! that awesome comeback of iNcontrol
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On October 24 2011 18:54 steisjo wrote:
ben ! geif replays! that awesome comeback of iNcontrol
We'll probably have them posted up here by tomorrow. Check back in the thread :D
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Just finished watching the vods.
Nice comeback.
<3
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Great games! Gratz EGIncontrol! Keep up the good work.
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On October 24 2011 09:43 coL.Minigun wrote:
I know my zerg is subpar from my protoss...but it was probably more entertaining than 1-7 games of pvp no?
did destiny teach you any tricks? I am surprised how easy it is for you to just play another race lol
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On October 24 2011 18:48 godulous wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 17:50 SimDawg wrote:
I'm watching the VODs and I just want to say the observers are horrible. Stay on the action, we don't need to see the 7 gates morphing, we have the production tab. Sorry you didn't enjoy their obsing, but we'll be sure to pass on all feedback from this thread to them for future events (mainly keep the production tabs open and focus more on the fights). We also have several different casters that we rotate between for our events so perhaps you'll like one of those better
Sorry about soundling like an asshole I really like all the great stuff coming out these days, there was a point there on Shattered that I wanted to reach through the computer screen and grab the mouse from that guy as he was watching gateways warp in for like 30 seconds.
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So Incontrol was able to edge out a win against Miniguns offrace. Well, I can see a bright future for him, maybe he will even start taking single games from some medicore players.
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Thank god Incontrol started playing macro after those awful first 2 games. Nice comeback.
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On October 24 2011 21:30 Brainiac wrote:
So Incontrol was able to edge out a win against Miniguns offrace. Well, I can see a bright future for him, maybe he will even start taking single games from some medicore players.
hey buddy I don't know why your being an asshole, you probably couldn't take a game off incontrol offracing as zerg. for the record minigun offraces as zerg a lot, he didn't pick it because he disrespects incontrol, its not an unpracticed offrace. maybe keep your opinions to yourself when they suck, if all your doing is putting down a player for no reason, just shut the fuck up.
User was temp banned for this post.
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On October 24 2011 22:05 goswser wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 21:30 Brainiac wrote:
So Incontrol was able to edge out a win against Miniguns offrace. Well, I can see a bright future for him, maybe he will even start taking single games from some medicore players. hey buddy I don't know why your being an asshole, you probably couldn't take a game off incontrol offracing as zerg. for the record minigun offraces as zerg a lot, he didn't pick it because he disrespects incontrol, its not an unpracticed offrace. maybe keep your opinions to yourself when they suck, if all your doing is putting down a player for no reason, just shut the fuck up.
its okay gowser
maybe you should keep your opinions to yourself to
keep it in PMs people
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On October 24 2011 22:05 goswser wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 21:30 Brainiac wrote:
So Incontrol was able to edge out a win against Miniguns offrace. Well, I can see a bright future for him, maybe he will even start taking single games from some medicore players. hey buddy I don't know why your being an asshole, you probably couldn't take a game off incontrol offracing as zerg. for the record minigun offraces as zerg a lot, he didn't pick it because he disrespects incontrol, its not an unpracticed offrace. maybe keep your opinions to yourself when they suck, if all your doing is putting down a player for no reason, just shut the fuck up.
It is not like I said something which is not true. What are you implying? I've watched the series and clearly Incontrol edged that win. We are talking about a guy that practises full time in a designated facility, going 0-20 at mlg and almost losing to an offrace. Is it untrue to say that now all he is able to do is taking single wins from medicore players (medicore =/= bad, but not good either)? And btw. I've heard Incontrol shittalking about a lot of players (that are better than him). So maybe stop being a white knight for a person which represents himself as exactly opposite.
And BTT: I enjoyed that showmatch, because they were evenly matched, games were pretty close.
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On October 24 2011 21:30 Brainiac wrote:
So Incontrol was able to edge out a win against Miniguns offrace. Well, I can see a bright future for him, maybe he will even start taking single games from some medicore players.
how is this allowed to be posted?
if someone said something similar about a TL player you'd be banned almost instantly
why the hell is there so much hate towards incontrol?
yea hes had poor runs at MLGs but he just needs a bit of luck
Hes as good, if not better then, tyler, haypro, drewbie, machine, tlo ect
but just because they get better groups (like haypro getting a group with drewbie and tlo in, theres 2 garateed wins due to his ZvT being awesome. And taking out boxer LOL)
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hey wheres the replay pack :D
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On October 22 2011 04:06 xCenasfu wrote:
They had to introduce payment for loser for Incontrol to agree
You were wrong. Haha.
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On October 25 2011 00:49 ThatGuy89 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 21:30 Brainiac wrote:
So Incontrol was able to edge out a win against Miniguns offrace. Well, I can see a bright future for him, maybe he will even start taking single games from some medicore players. how is this allowed to be posted? if someone said something similar about a TL player you'd be banned almost instantly why the hell is there so much hate towards incontrol? yea hes had poor runs at MLGs but he just needs a bit of luck Hes as good, if not better then, tyler, haypro, drewbie, machine, tlo ect but just because they get better groups (like haypro getting a group with drewbie and tlo in, theres 2 garateed wins due to his ZvT being awesome. And taking out boxer LOL)
If you want something done about it, report it. The mods can't watch every single thread all the time. It's impossible.
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On October 24 2011 22:30 Brainiac wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 22:05 goswser wrote:On October 24 2011 21:30 Brainiac wrote:
So Incontrol was able to edge out a win against Miniguns offrace. Well, I can see a bright future for him, maybe he will even start taking single games from some medicore players. hey buddy I don't know why your being an asshole, you probably couldn't take a game off incontrol offracing as zerg. for the record minigun offraces as zerg a lot, he didn't pick it because he disrespects incontrol, its not an unpracticed offrace. maybe keep your opinions to yourself when they suck, if all your doing is putting down a player for no reason, just shut the fuck up. It is not like I said something which is not true. What are you implying? I've watched the series and clearly Incontrol edged that win. We are talking about a guy that practises full time in a designated facility, going 0-20 at mlg and almost losing to an offrace. Is it untrue to say that now all he is able to do is taking single wins from medicore players (medicore =/= bad, but not good either)? And btw. I've heard Incontrol shittalking about a lot of players (that are better than him). So maybe stop being a white knight for a person which represents himself as exactly opposite. And BTT: I enjoyed that showmatch, because they were evenly matched, games were pretty close.
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Just because it's true doesn't mean you should say it. Do you know how to not be an asshole? Cause it doesn't sound like it. Give him a break. He does more for SC2 than you will ever do. So instead of mindlessly bashing a great member of this community and cluttering the forums with that trash, please just don't say anything. This goes back to first grade: "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."
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On October 25 2011 01:36 LambtrOn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2011 22:30 Brainiac wrote:On October 24 2011 22:05 goswser wrote:On October 24 2011 21:30 Brainiac wrote:
So Incontrol was able to edge out a win against Miniguns offrace. Well, I can see a bright future for him, maybe he will even start taking single games from some medicore players. hey buddy I don't know why your being an asshole, you probably couldn't take a game off incontrol offracing as zerg. for the record minigun offraces as zerg a lot, he didn't pick it because he disrespects incontrol, its not an unpracticed offrace. maybe keep your opinions to yourself when they suck, if all your doing is putting down a player for no reason, just shut the fuck up. It is not like I said something which is not true. What are you implying? I've watched the series and clearly Incontrol edged that win. We are talking about a guy that practises full time in a designated facility, going 0-20 at mlg and almost losing to an offrace. Is it untrue to say that now all he is able to do is taking single wins from medicore players (medicore =/= bad, but not good either)? And btw. I've heard Incontrol shittalking about a lot of players (that are better than him). So maybe stop being a white knight for a person which represents himself as exactly opposite. And BTT: I enjoyed that showmatch, because they were evenly matched, games were pretty close. ... Just because it's true doesn't mean you should say it. Do you know how to not be an asshole? Cause it doesn't sound like it. Give him a break. He does more for SC2 than you will ever do. So instead of mindlessly bashing a great member of this community and cluttering the forums with that trash, please just don't say anything. This goes back to first grade: "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."
Did you heard about a thing called "constructive criticism"? What? If you don't have anything nice to say don't say it? Why? If you want to post something nice go to his fanclub, it is a place created for this kind of stuff. Incontrol deserved his critisism for being an ass to many players and casters (f.e. Totalbiscuit, who does a ton for community), this is actually where his "fame" comes from (all that mocking stuff in sotg) and that is why so many people hate him (I don't, I just think he is below-medicore player). If he wants to bash so many people he can't expect to be taken seriously.
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On October 25 2011 01:42 Brainiac wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2011 01:36 LambtrOn wrote:On October 24 2011 22:30 Brainiac wrote:On October 24 2011 22:05 goswser wrote:On October 24 2011 21:30 Brainiac wrote:
So Incontrol was able to edge out a win against Miniguns offrace. Well, I can see a bright future for him, maybe he will even start taking single games from some medicore players. hey buddy I don't know why your being an asshole, you probably couldn't take a game off incontrol offracing as zerg. for the record minigun offraces as zerg a lot, he didn't pick it because he disrespects incontrol, its not an unpracticed offrace. maybe keep your opinions to yourself when they suck, if all your doing is putting down a player for no reason, just shut the fuck up. It is not like I said something which is not true. What are you implying? I've watched the series and clearly Incontrol edged that win. We are talking about a guy that practises full time in a designated facility, going 0-20 at mlg and almost losing to an offrace. Is it untrue to say that now all he is able to do is taking single wins from medicore players (medicore =/= bad, but not good either)? And btw. I've heard Incontrol shittalking about a lot of players (that are better than him). So maybe stop being a white knight for a person which represents himself as exactly opposite. And BTT: I enjoyed that showmatch, because they were evenly matched, games were pretty close. ... Just because it's true doesn't mean you should say it. Do you know how to not be an asshole? Cause it doesn't sound like it. Give him a break. He does more for SC2 than you will ever do. So instead of mindlessly bashing a great member of this community and cluttering the forums with that trash, please just don't say anything. This goes back to first grade: "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." Did you heard about a thing called "constructive criticism"? What? If you don't have anything nice to say don't say it? Why? If you want to post something nice go to his fanclub, it is a place created for this kind of stuff. Incontrol deserved his critisism for being an ass to many players and casters (f.e. Totalbiscuit, who does a ton for community), this is actually where his "fame" comes from (all that mocking stuff in sotg) and that is why so many people hate him (I don't, I just think he is below-medicore player). If he wants to bash so many people he can't expect to be taken seriously.
Are you serious? You're confusing shit talking with joking. And you offer absolutely zero constructive criticism.
edit: And you bash him after he wins a showmatch. I can't believe you're not banned.
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"Constructive criticism" LOL. Shameful.
Here's my example of your constructive criticism, "You're a giant douchebag. Go away." See, thats not very nice. Stop being a douchebag and you might be more popular, theres some criticism.
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Well I enjoyed the match...and I like iNcontroL...and I like Minigun. I'm not cool enough to hate things
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Wait so Minigun played Zerg and almost won?? lol thats just epic, just think if he actually would have won. Incontrols game just seem to get weaker and weaker.
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