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Canada13389 Posts
On October 16 2011 23:18 Fyzar wrote: I wonder, how should KiWi have played it?
Not balance whining or something, just wondering what he did wrong, I was thinking the colossi came too late, but is that true?
I think storm is the better option nowadays. The maps arent choke pointy enough to have collossus be really good. Surrounds destroy collossus based armies whereas storm can zone units preventing a surround (they must take damage to get surround).
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Stephano and Kiwikaki against each other always produce some of the best SC2 games :D
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On October 16 2011 23:20 Bleak wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 23:19 PeggyHill wrote:On October 16 2011 23:18 Fyzar wrote: I wonder, how should KiWi have played it?
Not balance whining or something, just wondering what he did wrong, I was thinking the colossi came too late, but is that true? He needed storm. Agreed. Templar tech and Archons would be better with well aimed storms. You know what roaches do to storm? They eat it and laugh! omnomnom awawhahhah
It would be good vs the corruptors only, but they already did their job taking out the colossi :d
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On October 16 2011 23:20 PeggyHill wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 23:18 -_- wrote: Hydras are worthless and should be removed from the game, right? As a toss player I am shit scared of hydras. Never understood why zergs complain about them, they rape gateway units so hard.
Kiwi never had more then 1 colossus up at a time though. Need some more to counter hydras.
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On October 16 2011 23:18 Fyzar wrote: I wonder, how should KiWi have played it?
Not balance whining or something, just wondering what he did wrong, I was thinking the colossi came too late, but is that true?
I agree that the collosy were too late. Maybe engage in less open spaces. But his play was really really good.
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On October 16 2011 23:21 yowza wrote: HT/Archons would've smashed stephano's comp but still, fantastic play by stephano
No way he had time to swap tech.
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On October 16 2011 23:21 hugman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 23:20 -_- wrote:On October 16 2011 23:19 JuuMeijin wrote:On October 16 2011 23:18 -_- wrote: Hydras are worthless and should be removed from the game, right? Yeah they're pretty bad :/ Yup yup, and that game was a great example of why no zerg player should use them. They melt to storm and Colossi
So do marines.
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On October 16 2011 23:20 ZAiNs wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 23:18 -_- wrote: Hydras are worthless and should be removed from the game, right? Blame Idra for the misconception.
To be fair, at that point in the game it hardly mattered if Stephano made hydras, roaches, or lings.
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On October 16 2011 23:20 Automata wrote: Also, that hydra burrow play was so awesome.
Yeah, that hydra burrow and unburrow to cut the retreat was plain brilliant
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On October 16 2011 23:20 -_- wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 23:19 JuuMeijin wrote:On October 16 2011 23:18 -_- wrote: Hydras are worthless and should be removed from the game, right? Yeah they're pretty bad :/ Yup yup, and that game was a great example of why no zerg player should use them.
They are useless as long as there is a hard counter against you. There wasn't.
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I love the way Stephano continues to add Zerglings and Hydralisks to his unit composition rather than just massing roaches.
It really shows that he understands how the units of Zerg complement each other.
It's small other things too. The burrowing of the Hydralisks to to save them when they were being overwhelmed, the constant use of corruption. It's those small things that really show his Warcraft 3 roots where those sorts of things were so key.
He's making a fan out of me really quickly! :D
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he made the hydras cuz he had enough corrupters to kill every colossus that would pop after he resetted the colossus count just reactionary play
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Nice game by Stephano. He's up 1-0 vs KiWiKaKi.
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United Kingdom31255 Posts
Game Two on Shattered temple
In the south position is Kiwikaki
While in the north is Stephano
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stephano is just 1 class above kiwi, these is not a balance thing at all
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On October 16 2011 23:21 hugman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 23:20 -_- wrote:On October 16 2011 23:19 JuuMeijin wrote:On October 16 2011 23:18 -_- wrote: Hydras are worthless and should be removed from the game, right? Yeah they're pretty bad :/ Yup yup, and that game was a great example of why no zerg player should use them. They melt to storm and Colossi So do Lings and Marines.
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Shattered temple! Inb4 another epic game like the one on IPL
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