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Fungal Growth
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
October 15 2011 21:16 GMT
#4641
Love July's play style!

Thing is with protoss...it is VERY difficult to win vs zerg without AOE (and specifically colossi). Hero made a major mistake abandoning colossi tech .
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
October 15 2011 21:16 GMT
#4642
Hero not building Collossus was a mistake, yes July had corruptors, but you've already invested 200/200 in that bay and collossus just rip through roaches (with stalkers providing cover).
funkyfritter
Profile Joined May 2010
353 Posts
October 15 2011 21:16 GMT
#4643
On October 16 2011 06:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
IMO. Archons would have been a good idea with those templar at the end there.

Archons are not very good against roaches.
Clank
Profile Joined April 2011
United States548 Posts
October 15 2011 21:16 GMT
#4644
PHEW, Huk now only has to beat ddoro to clinch 1st in the group. Hero probably would have gotten it otherwise. foreigner in top 6 guys!!!!!
Whalecore
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway1111 Posts
October 15 2011 21:16 GMT
#4645
Roaches are like big fat zerglings :dd so many of them
Playgu
JBrown08
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada306 Posts
October 15 2011 21:16 GMT
#4646
On October 16 2011 06:13 laharl23 wrote:
please dont let july win this group, thats all i ask...


He won't, huk will beat ddoro and has the head to head against July.
Ayabara
Profile Joined December 2010
United States102 Posts
October 15 2011 21:16 GMT
#4647
He really needed a critical mass of immortals against such heavy roach play.

I feel like once protoss has 6 or 7 any number of roaches is just going to get decimated.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 21:17:59
October 15 2011 21:16 GMT
#4648
On October 16 2011 06:09 TheSwamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:08 Elem wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:04 setzer wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:02 Elem wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:01 Talin wrote:
On October 16 2011 05:58 JohnnyBanana wrote:
"Oh yes I love this 'style' by JulyZerg. Good timing push"

"BUT FUCK PUMA 1/1/1 NO THATS NOT TIMING, CHEESE CHEESE ALLIN ALLIN"

Oh TL, how I love thee.


Pointless snide remark there.

Different players get different treatment for different reasons (that do exist). When Puma becomes a legendary programer, he can have a "style". Until then he's just abusing flavor builds.
TL;DR bias for past accomplishments.


Are you a boxer fan?
I like BoxeR, and I respect him and his past accomplishments. But I do not allow that to get in the way of proper judgement. Which is why July continues to be awful overall to me. BoxeR is better than him, though. July relies on that it's nigh impossible to fall out of Code S if you coinflip well.

It's impossible to coinflip well. It's called a coinflip for a reason.

I'd really wish Idra never introduced the concept of coinfliping in sc2. It makes zero sense, and now everybody who lacks game understanding abuse this term and talk about coinflip here, coinflip there.
Some very rare builds are coinflips, but far less than the term is abusively used left and right about stuff which aren't remotely coinflips.
Abuyin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany30 Posts
October 15 2011 21:16 GMT
#4649
hey

hey july

♥ u !
Zenio: Where's the gg? Idra: Earn it
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
October 15 2011 21:16 GMT
#4650
On October 16 2011 06:15 sealpuncher wrote:
I never understood why zergs don't just spam roaches and take more bases. Seems like it always works.

It's what I do and it really works :p

Roaches scale really well with upgrades
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
October 15 2011 21:16 GMT
#4651
On October 16 2011 06:15 Xxavi wrote:
Why on earth Hero didn't make archons there?

July is good with his relentless attacks.


ever seen archons against roaches?
The universe created an audience for itself.
Moxi
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
708 Posts
October 15 2011 21:16 GMT
#4652
What is that song called with the guitars?
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
October 15 2011 21:17 GMT
#4653
On October 16 2011 06:16 funkyfritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:15 Vindicare605 wrote:
IMO. Archons would have been a good idea with those templar at the end there.

Archons are not very good against roaches.


Better than losing HT.

Wouldn't have mattered though, Hero needed collossi.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
October 15 2011 21:17 GMT
#4654
Way too fast tech, he had no army.
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
October 15 2011 21:17 GMT
#4655
no neural + not being nestea means he probably won't beat all these thors
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
October 15 2011 21:17 GMT
#4656
On October 16 2011 06:13 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 06:08 Elem wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:04 setzer wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:02 Elem wrote:
On October 16 2011 06:01 Talin wrote:
On October 16 2011 05:58 JohnnyBanana wrote:
"Oh yes I love this 'style' by JulyZerg. Good timing push"

"BUT FUCK PUMA 1/1/1 NO THATS NOT TIMING, CHEESE CHEESE ALLIN ALLIN"

Oh TL, how I love thee.


Pointless snide remark there.

Different players get different treatment for different reasons (that do exist). When Puma becomes a legendary programer, he can have a "style". Until then he's just abusing flavor builds.
TL;DR bias for past accomplishments.


Are you a boxer fan?
I like BoxeR, and I respect him and his past accomplishments. But I do not allow that to get in the way of proper judgement. Which is why July continues to be awful overall to me. BoxeR is better than him, though. July relies on that it's nigh impossible to fall out of Code S if you coinflip well.


But this isn't about judgement, because we aren't discussing their playstyles, but about how they are perceived in the community and why.

When Flash cheesed Bisu out of a Starleague way back, he was "that f***ing cheeser kid". Now he's God Young Ho and he can cheese or suck for a year if he decides to.

Such is life in Starcraft. ^^
Sadly. I am a person who really does not enjoy that people are carried forward by the community based on old, old accomplishments (July, to some extent even The Emperor himself) or their teams (see some Liquid players). Oh well, I guess my attempts at trying to reduce the amount of bias are futile. T_T
#freeshauni
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
October 15 2011 21:17 GMT
#4657
On October 16 2011 06:16 Clank wrote:
PHEW, Huk now only has to beat ddoro to clinch 1st in the group. Hero probably would have gotten it otherwise. foreigner in top 6 guys!!!!!


possibly 2 if Boxer or Idra beat MKP
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
ImDrizzt
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway427 Posts
October 15 2011 21:17 GMT
#4658
Agree with what ARtosis said, but I don't think that was the most important moment. He lost the 2 temps with the most energy which was in the warp prism, and when they attacked, he could place 2 storms, imagine if it was 6 storms, that battle would be heavily swayed, and he'd not lose his army, and get really high army size and then go at it
Link to my serious blog, where I am serious and spreads truth, knowledge and "serious" stuff: http://www.liquidpoker.net/blog/viewblog.php?id=982066
ShakaDEVIRGO
Profile Joined May 2011
Mexico106 Posts
October 15 2011 21:17 GMT
#4659
On October 16 2011 06:16 Fungal Growth wrote:
Love July's play style!

Thing is with protoss...it is VERY difficult to win vs zerg without AOE (and specifically colossi). Hero made a major mistake abandoning colossi tech .

he kinda coludnt because july had a lot of corruptors hanging around
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
October 15 2011 21:17 GMT
#4660
Oh hai Milkis!
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
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