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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
October 15 2011 19:47 GMT
#3721
ah, it seems as if sase has a proxy stargate
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Deekin[
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia1713 Posts
October 15 2011 19:47 GMT
#3722
SaSe for champion!!!!!!! Gogo kill Kiwi!!
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ CJ Entus fighting! I am a Leta, Hydra, Mind and (ofcourse) Firebathero fan. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
October 15 2011 19:47 GMT
#3723
On October 16 2011 04:46 TheSwamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 04:44 Brainiac wrote:
On October 16 2011 04:43 sereniity wrote:
I hate how everybody are being an asshole towards InControl while Tyler is doing just as bad in every freaking tournament he goes to... quite ridicolous...


Tyler actually fought his way through open bracket Last MLG (won 9 series or so) and Incontrol didn't win anything + Incontrol is living in a pro house when he trains 8h's a day. See the difference?


Beating diamond players in the open bracket is the same as pool play?

Diamond players?

Looks like MarineKing, SaSe, Trimaster etc. are all diamond players then!
ლ(ಠ益ಠლ) APM, Why u make me spam?
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
October 15 2011 19:47 GMT
#3724
On October 16 2011 04:42 TooN wrote:
You white knights for incontrol realize that the people who hate him because of his play and his status as a pro gamer.

Its nothing personal.

The hate is valid... He is on a pro team, is sponsored, gets paid, in the pool play but losing nonstop.
If any player on any sports team does bad or so long... that player will get traded or cut. Its sad that teams continue to juice out the money for players who isnt putting up the representation and production the team needs.

I don't hate incontrol. It is the nature of sports and competition. You are a "pro"... if you don't play well.. you should be criticized.



Yet people don't hate on people who lose early in the Open Bracket. They hate on iNcontrol because his games are broadcast.

iNcontrol is in the Open Bracket because he took a bronze medal at Dallas. This basically means that he stays in pool play for the rest of the year. He isn't given that spot over anyone due to any other reason then he earned the points to hold it. You can agrue that the system is flawed but that isn't iNcontrols fault.
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
RaiderRob
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands377 Posts
October 15 2011 19:47 GMT
#3725
Sase gonna lift the sentries, this will be fun.
People don't want freedom but fair leadership
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
October 15 2011 19:47 GMT
#3726
On October 16 2011 04:43 sharktopus. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 04:38 HoldenR wrote:
Incontrol looked like a platinum player. I'm sorry, but when the open bracket has players like white ra who has to meet someone as amazing as stephano early on, followed by him meeting someone as amazing as theStC in the very next round, I feel like I'm being robbed by the pool play having some seriously poor quality players(And please don't call this hating, because anyone who's watched any of his recent MLG games can tell you he has performed EXTREMELY poorly for a while now.) getting high spots and a much more relaxed schedule, while far better players meet eachother so early in the tournament they have almost no opportunity to make it through.

MLG should just drop another spot per pool, and open that up for invites that aren't necessarily korean. Players like White-ra, Stephano, demuslim, etc could get those spot.

No, I'm not angry at incontrol, I just see much more potential in this event and I wish MLG would be faster in bringing about very needed changes.


I agree completely. I feel like he's babied a bit in these tournaments. There's nothing hateful about stating the facts, and he has played very poorly at every MLG event. There's also nothing hateful about saying that someone who claims to practice 8 hours a day (on NA and EU) should have a much stronger showing at tournaments. If he can't turn things around, I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see EG drop him when his contract is up.


Incontrol usually wins his first game out of pool if I remember correctly. Also you are incredibly naive if you think EG is going to drop him.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
October 15 2011 19:47 GMT
#3727
On October 16 2011 04:45 sharktopus. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 04:43 sereniity wrote:
I hate how everybody are being an asshole towards InControl while Tyler is doing just as bad in every freaking tournament he goes to... quite ridicolous...


Tyler doesn't practice 40 hours a week, so I don't think expectations are the same.


Drewbies doing terrible, he's been to Korea. Why's no one bashing him?
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
October 15 2011 19:47 GMT
#3728
On October 16 2011 04:46 Canucklehead wrote:
MKP didn't nuke on purpose because he could tell he wasn't ahead by that much. Just a horrible horrible mistake! T_T

it was actually on purpose.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
October 15 2011 19:47 GMT
#3729
Too many people talking about MKP lol. Pretty interested to see how well Sase does today, would love to see how much he's improved :D
The universe created an audience for itself.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12886 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 19:48:19
October 15 2011 19:47 GMT
#3730
On October 16 2011 04:46 Canucklehead wrote:
MKP didn't nuke on purpose because he could tell he wasn't ahead by that much. Just a horrible horrible mistake! T_T

It was not a mistake. Did you not see him heading his marines back?
He just thought drewbie was on 2bases...
Probably because drewbie didnt powered up in time so MKP thought he had only 2base income seeing his marine advantage
WriterMaru
-Strider-
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico1605 Posts
October 15 2011 19:48 GMT
#3731
On October 16 2011 04:46 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 04:41 diophan wrote:
Wow the commentary on the MKP stream is so unbelievably awful... he thought he nuked his army on accident.

User was warned for this post


You're right, that was a totally intentional BM nuke... that caused him to lose the game BADLY (200 supply vs 60).

Seriously?

That was a totally intentional BM nuke.
What is up? IM NESTEAAAA!
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
October 15 2011 19:48 GMT
#3732
On October 16 2011 04:46 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 04:41 diophan wrote:
Wow the commentary on the MKP stream is so unbelievably awful... he thought he nuked his army on accident.

User was warned for this post


You're right, that was a totally intentional BM nuke... that caused him to lose the game BADLY (200 supply vs 60).

Seriously?


He did it on purpose but thought he was further ahead... I think that's pretty clear.
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
October 15 2011 19:48 GMT
#3733
On October 16 2011 04:44 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 04:42 TheHova wrote:
On October 16 2011 04:36 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On October 16 2011 04:33 gh0un wrote:
On October 16 2011 04:31 syllogism wrote:
It's really bizarre such a rampant player hating is allowed here, especially someone like incontrol who has been part of the TL community forever


Incontrol is a cool guy, but his level of play is clearly on a whole different level than other attendants.
Thats not hating, thats the cold hard truth.


But it's hating.


On October 10 2011 01:56 Plexa wrote:
It's not bashing when its the truth.



But it's still bashing. There are some reasonable comments critical of his play but random 1 line comments bashing incontrol are just immature and don't make the community look good.


It's the internet. There's going to be immature people on it.

It's not like iNcontroL has never been immature whilst criticising other people before. If you're gonna give it, gotta be prepared to take it too.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
October 15 2011 19:48 GMT
#3734
gosh that reaction time is sick
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Brainiac
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland641 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 19:48:42
October 15 2011 19:48 GMT
#3735
On October 16 2011 04:46 TheSwamp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 04:44 Brainiac wrote:
On October 16 2011 04:43 sereniity wrote:
I hate how everybody are being an asshole towards InControl while Tyler is doing just as bad in every freaking tournament he goes to... quite ridicolous...


Tyler actually fought his way through open bracket Last MLG (won 9 series or so) and Incontrol didn't win anything + Incontrol is living in a pro house when he trains 8h's a day. See the difference?


Beating diamond players in the open bracket is the same as pool play?


You are either joking or being ignorant as hell, lols
Si vis pacem para bellum
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-15 19:48:44
October 15 2011 19:48 GMT
#3736
On October 16 2011 04:47 XiGua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 04:46 TheSwamp wrote:
On October 16 2011 04:44 Brainiac wrote:
On October 16 2011 04:43 sereniity wrote:
I hate how everybody are being an asshole towards InControl while Tyler is doing just as bad in every freaking tournament he goes to... quite ridicolous...


Tyler actually fought his way through open bracket Last MLG (won 9 series or so) and Incontrol didn't win anything + Incontrol is living in a pro house when he trains 8h's a day. See the difference?


Beating diamond players in the open bracket is the same as pool play?

Diamond players?

Looks like MarineKing, SaSe, Trimaster etc. are all diamond players then!

too bad MKP, SaSe, and the big name koreans weren't there before. invalid arguement.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
TheSwamp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1497 Posts
October 15 2011 19:48 GMT
#3737
On October 16 2011 04:47 XiGua wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 04:46 TheSwamp wrote:
On October 16 2011 04:44 Brainiac wrote:
On October 16 2011 04:43 sereniity wrote:
I hate how everybody are being an asshole towards InControl while Tyler is doing just as bad in every freaking tournament he goes to... quite ridicolous...


Tyler actually fought his way through open bracket Last MLG (won 9 series or so) and Incontrol didn't win anything + Incontrol is living in a pro house when he trains 8h's a day. See the difference?


Beating diamond players in the open bracket is the same as pool play?

Diamond players?

Looks like MarineKing, SaSe, Trimaster etc. are all diamond players then!


Tyler didn't play any of those players.
MLG: How is your Protoss? Idra: I make Blink Stalkers, so really, really good.
dapierow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Serbia1316 Posts
October 15 2011 19:48 GMT
#3738
On October 16 2011 04:45 Denzil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 04:43 sereniity wrote:
I hate how everybody are being an asshole towards InControl while Tyler is doing just as bad in every freaking tournament he goes to... quite ridicolous...


It is but you see, the main difference is Tyler is Teamliquid, so the people here will forgive him and say he'll do better next time.
Shame really.


Tyler Won open bracket last time

Tyler isnt a pompus douchebag
Eat.Sleep.Starcraft 2
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
October 15 2011 19:48 GMT
#3739
On October 16 2011 04:47 Tantaburs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 04:42 TooN wrote:
You white knights for incontrol realize that the people who hate him because of his play and his status as a pro gamer.

Its nothing personal.

The hate is valid... He is on a pro team, is sponsored, gets paid, in the pool play but losing nonstop.
If any player on any sports team does bad or so long... that player will get traded or cut. Its sad that teams continue to juice out the money for players who isnt putting up the representation and production the team needs.

I don't hate incontrol. It is the nature of sports and competition. You are a "pro"... if you don't play well.. you should be criticized.



Yet people don't hate on people who lose early in the Open Bracket. They hate on iNcontrol because his games are broadcast.

iNcontrol is in the Open Bracket because he took a bronze medal at Dallas. This basically means that he stays in pool play for the rest of the year. He isn't given that spot over anyone due to any other reason then he earned the points to hold it. You can agrue that the system is flawed but that isn't iNcontrols fault.


basically this. it's hilarious that people will continue to whine despite that mlg recognised about three tournaments ago their system needs tweaks and that they will do so, and that people think that mlg should change things midway through a season which is completely unreasonable
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
October 15 2011 19:48 GMT
#3740
On October 16 2011 04:44 Jezdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 04:42 TooN wrote:
You white knights for incontrol realize that the people who hate him because of his play and his status as a pro gamer.

Its nothing personal.

The hate is valid... He is on a pro team, is sponsored, gets paid, in the pool play but losing nonstop.
If any player on any sports team does bad or so long... that player will get traded or cut. Its sad that teams continue to juice out the money for players who isnt putting up the representation and production the team needs.

I don't hate incontrol. It is the nature of sports and competition. You are a "pro"... if you don't play well.. you should be criticized.


Yea, you'll get far...

How bout the fact he built nasl, he built EG, he puts out huge content for esports and helped a tonne of people...

'hate is valid'

Go back to you little corner, child.

User was warned for this post

those things say nothing about his skill in sc2. he can still do those things without being a progamer cant he? it still doesnt mean that he can be called on the same tier as the players at MLG.
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