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On October 16 2011 00:11 JethroMoney wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 00:09 Lasbike wrote:
I love Stephano but that was probably a little bit greedy from him to build pool so late and keep building drones He built his pool at 14.. so he didn't really have any other choices.. Losing the spine crawler was what lost it for him I think. Or he should've waited a bit longer for attacking.. maybe until he could move the spine forward to draw fire. Really tough to beat overall so I can't blame Stephano too much.
No he didnt.
He went 15hatch, built 3 drones, 17pool, build 2-4 more drones, then gassed.
Thats the only reason i was questioning his opening, i agree on blind 15hatch vs terran especially on these maps
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This says red stream....so confusing
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On October 16 2011 00:11 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 00:11 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:10 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:09 Drazerk wrote:Game Two on Shakuras Plateau In the top left is  TheSTC While in the top right is  Stephano 2:20Stephano goes hatch first 2:40STC now expanding first himself Stephano getting an earlier pool than last game 3:30
Barracks and gas on the way for STC
4:00
Gas only just starting for stephano as he gets two queens without any lings
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On October 16 2011 00:09 ninjamyst wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 00:07 Roynalf wrote:
Stephano destroyed STC at IPL3 so STC is afraid to play macro game with Stephano, now Stephano will be ready for bunker rush and should just crush the STC Stephano didn't "destroy" TheStC. It was 2-1, and TheStC was getting used to Stephano's playstyle. I would still like to see a macro game from them to see if TheStC improved and figured out how to counter Stephano's style.
It was 3-1. And if you watched those games, they were very onesided. The only game TheStC won is one that he played extremely greedy (very very quick third... he had his third up a full few minutes before stephano did) and stephano didn't punish him. Despite that, Stephano still caught up in that game.
I don't know why people are arguing this. TheStC might have had a poor day at IPL3 or something... but he was lost against Stephano's style back then.
Hopefully he has studied Stephano a bit more now though.
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On October 16 2011 00:12 KillerSOS wrote:
This says red stream....so confusing
Stephano vs. TheStC on both streams atm
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On October 16 2011 00:12 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 00:11 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:11 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:10 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:09 Drazerk wrote:Game Two on Shakuras Plateau In the top left is TheSTC While in the top right is Stephano 2:20Stephano goes hatch first 2:40STC now expanding first himself Stephano getting an earlier pool than last game 3:30
Barracks and gas on the way for STC 4:00Gas only just starting for stephano as he gets two queens without any lings
4:50
Factory on the way for STC
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On which stream is the game? O_o can't see anything
EDIT: found it, i have a lot of problems with streams lately.
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Oh no, I just tuned in.. what happened game 1 of Stephano vs TheStC?
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On October 16 2011 00:12 DoomsVille wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 00:12 KillerSOS wrote:
This says red stream....so confusing Stephano vs. TheStC on both streams atm
Besides, all the discussion ends up here anyway. 
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On October 16 2011 00:13 ODieN wrote:
Oh no, I just tuned in.. what happened game 1 of Stephano vs TheStC?
bunker rush..
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On October 16 2011 00:10 oogieogie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 00:09 Grettin wrote:On October 16 2011 00:08 blobrus wrote:On October 16 2011 00:06 Grettin wrote:On October 16 2011 00:05 blobrus wrote:
Why does it seem like the STC does this a lot? Because he isn't that good against zerg when it gets mid-late game? Brilliant play by TheStC and just as he should be playing this. Proxy 2 rax is brilliant? Not sure I agree with that, but whatever, just doesn't make for a fun game to watch as a spectator. It was brilliant because it is the way he can beat Stephano easily. Player plays to win, not to give great games for the spectators. Yea, but no one likes to see this kind of game right away.
If you haven't noticed, in most matchups, if someone is cheesing, they often do it the first time. Especially if they consider themself the better player. It's sort of a metagame thing ... cheese often counters other cheese, and it puts the other player in a defensive mindset if it works for the next game.
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On October 16 2011 00:10 oogieogie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 00:09 Grettin wrote:On October 16 2011 00:08 blobrus wrote:On October 16 2011 00:06 Grettin wrote:On October 16 2011 00:05 blobrus wrote:
Why does it seem like the STC does this a lot? Because he isn't that good against zerg when it gets mid-late game? Brilliant play by TheStC and just as he should be playing this. Proxy 2 rax is brilliant? Not sure I agree with that, but whatever, just doesn't make for a fun game to watch as a spectator. It was brilliant because it is the way he can beat Stephano easily. Player plays to win, not to give great games for the spectators. Yea, but no one likes to see this kind of game right away.
Depends how you look at it. I knew that would come and i have no problems watching stuff like that. In fact i'm glad he opened this way since he has pretty much no chance against Stephano in macro game. And it would be even more boring to watch Stephano roll this guy if STC wouldn't be playing cheesy/aggressive. IMO
Predicting heavy hellion build by TheStC.
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Yeah its cool if everything stays here.... i dont like trying to follow 2 threads
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On October 16 2011 00:12 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 00:12 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:11 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:11 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:10 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:09 Drazerk wrote:Game Two on Shakuras Plateau In the top left is TheSTC While in the top right is Stephano 2:20Stephano goes hatch first 2:40STC now expanding first himself Stephano getting an earlier pool than last game 3:30
Barracks and gas on the way for STC 4:00Gas only just starting for stephano as he gets two queens without any lings 4:50Factory on the way for STC
5:40
Ling speed on the way for stephano as he builds a spine and 6 zerglings while starting his creep spread and second gas.
STC getting a second factory and a tech lab
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On October 16 2011 00:13 ODieN wrote:
Oh no, I just tuned in.. what happened game 1 of Stephano vs TheStC?
Stephano went 15hatch and then build 3 drones before pool after scouting a proxy rax, turns out there was a second rax proxied, and he died to the bunker push
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I wanna see some TvZ mech play
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On October 16 2011 00:13 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 00:12 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:12 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:11 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:11 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:10 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:09 Drazerk wrote:Game Two on Shakuras Plateau In the top left is TheSTC While in the top right is Stephano 2:20Stephano goes hatch first 2:40STC now expanding first himself Stephano getting an earlier pool than last game 3:30
Barracks and gas on the way for STC 4:00Gas only just starting for stephano as he gets two queens without any lings 4:50Factory on the way for STC 5:40Ling speed on the way for stephano as he builds a spine and 6 zerglings while starting his creep spread and second gas. STC getting a second factory and a tech lab
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Lair on the way for Stephano as the STC begins his third base
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On October 16 2011 00:12 DoomsVille wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 00:09 ninjamyst wrote:On October 16 2011 00:07 Roynalf wrote:
Stephano destroyed STC at IPL3 so STC is afraid to play macro game with Stephano, now Stephano will be ready for bunker rush and should just crush the STC Stephano didn't "destroy" TheStC. It was 2-1, and TheStC was getting used to Stephano's playstyle. I would still like to see a macro game from them to see if TheStC improved and figured out how to counter Stephano's style. It was 3-1. And if you watched those games, they were very onesided. The only game TheStC won is one that he played extremely greedy (very very quick third... he had his third up a full few minutes before stephano did) and stephano didn't punish him. Despite that, Stephano still caught up in that game. I don't know why people are arguing this. TheStC might have had a poor day at IPL3 or something... but he was lost against Stephano's style back then. Hopefully he has studied Stephano a bit more now though.
you mean the only game he macro'd uncontested? He lost the game on Shak to an allin after he opened with a fast CC. Other games he lost because his cheese failed...
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Looks like Stephano is going muta/ling/bane and mixing it up. Good idea.
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On October 16 2011 00:14 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2011 00:13 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:12 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:12 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:11 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:11 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:10 Drazerk wrote:On October 16 2011 00:09 Drazerk wrote:Game Two on Shakuras Plateau In the top left is TheSTC While in the top right is Stephano 2:20Stephano goes hatch first 2:40STC now expanding first himself Stephano getting an earlier pool than last game 3:30
Barracks and gas on the way for STC 4:00Gas only just starting for stephano as he gets two queens without any lings 4:50Factory on the way for STC 5:40Ling speed on the way for stephano as he builds a spine and 6 zerglings while starting his creep spread and second gas. STC getting a second factory and a tech lab 6:30Lair on the way for Stephano as the STC begins his third base
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Blue flame on the way for STC
Stephano getting an evo chamber as the ebay starts
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