EPTMLG Orlando Blue Day 2 Live Report Thread - Page 43
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Krossfire
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Cyro
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On October 16 2011 09:19 Krossfire wrote: Rofl JP and Tasteless trying to breakdown zvp on that map..........this is why they need artosis That Roach/ling pressure (even all-in variations, im not sure what slush did) is HELL for protoss on that map, you need perfect forcefields to hold from a sentry expand and yet FFE is almost a build order loss to it because of the weird positions for metal, you need so many cannons to cover all sides | ||
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Krossfire
Australia1071 Posts
On October 16 2011 09:20 Cyro wrote: That Roach/ling pressure (even all-in variations, im not sure what slush did) is HELL for protoss on that map, you need perfect forcefields to hold from a sentry expand and yet FFE is almost a build order loss to it because of the weird positions for metal, you need so many cannons to cover all sides Well they were talking about zergs taking a 3rd and obviously its hard to do with rocks blocking but Hongun didnt FFE so zerg didnt need a super fast 3rd | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20342 Posts
On October 16 2011 09:22 Krossfire wrote: Well they were talking about zergs taking a 3rd and obviously its hard to do with rocks blocking but Hongun didnt FFE so zerg didnt need a super fast 3rd People take a 6-7 minute third in response to gateway expands and those same gateway expands often follow up with 5-7gate attacks at 8-9 minutes where you would need the rocks gone and creep between the nat and third, it is hard for zerg to do that and not die outright to anything, but protoss is not exactly favored on the map because of the roach/ling and a few other factors | ||
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Cyro
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Cyro
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
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Oboeman
Canada3980 Posts
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Kazius
Israel1456 Posts
On October 16 2011 09:28 Cyro wrote: zealot beats roach 1v1, they are not "terrible" IMO It's a matter of surface area - one on one does not happen. And even if it does, kiting is something zealots don't do. In a tight area, only the front zealots can attack, while all of the roaches can. In open areas, roaches kite zealots. So, pre-charge, roaches overpower Zealots because positioning and micro all work in their favor. | ||
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20342 Posts
On October 16 2011 09:32 Kazius wrote: It's a matter of surface area - one on one does not happen. And even if it does, kiting is something zealots don't do. In a tight area, only the front zealots can attack, while all of the roaches can. In open areas, roaches kite zealots. So, pre-charge, roaches overpower Zealots because positioning and micro all work in their favor. Pre-charge its pretty roach favored yea, but zeal archon for example will annihilate roaches cost for cost if you hit a nice timing, even if zeals themselves cant trade 1:1 ff's and flanks do allow you to trade zeals for suprising amounts of roaches, though | ||
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Cyro
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
On October 16 2011 09:29 DaCruise wrote: Slush is such a cheesy player. I rarely find myself cheering for a korean vs a foreigner but in this match I do. hehe have you ever watched HongUn play? Unless you're totally unfamiliar with him your comment makes no sense to me | ||
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rolfe
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
And it's in ALL match up lol | ||
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Medrea
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TemplarCo.
Mexico2870 Posts
White-Ra and Polt advance!!! | ||
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DaCruise
Denmark2457 Posts
On October 16 2011 09:40 JWD wrote: hehe have you ever watched HongUn play? Unless you're totally unfamiliar with him your comment makes no sense to me I commented Slush´s play. What does HongUn has to do with that? My comment makes perfect sense. We also saw that in game 3 with yet another roach/ling all-in. And yeah. I am pretty unfamiliar with HongUn but he totally deserved to win that series imo. | ||
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trucane
United States553 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20342 Posts
On October 16 2011 09:50 trucane wrote: Am I the only one who keep getting black screen on the streams over and over again? It's getting really fucking annoying and it only happens on the MLG streams Restart browser and try it without changing quality (not more than once) | ||
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