On October 08 2011 17:02 RealQ wrote: only bboong and MKP left
It's bo9 not bo7; so another one. Probably Byun.
prime got 2 players left dude
Ya, they have to hope bboong can take down Noblesse just because he can be very difficult for MVP to take down after that... but from what I recall, he is not very good against terran. If that's the case, then MKP will be put in a near impossible situation. Oh well, I'm going to bed now though. I'm glad I didn't go before that last game though. Hopefully the final results are close.
On October 08 2011 17:02 Jonoman92 wrote: Geeze, I mean did Noblesse have any chance at losing? His buildings in the corners can't be hit by stalkers I beleive. So even if he Creator had stood on one pylon I think Noblesse may have been able to charge in anyway and kill it.
Never should have lost the nexus at 6 o'clock though...
No, the worst case situation for Noblesse was a draw, it was his game to win/tie as soon as it became a base trade.
only if Creator focused on supply depots when his entire army was destroying Noblesse's base. base trade into cloak banshee was a semi-common thing in beta.
On October 08 2011 17:03 Ansalem wrote: Wouldn't Noblesse have won anyway? He could have just suicided his army into the pylon even if all of Creator's army was by it and still kill it in time.
this pretty much
I think he had enough charge lots and sentries to stop him from actually reaching 6 range with enough mauraders.. he had a huge lead in units.
On October 08 2011 17:02 Jonoman92 wrote: Geeze, I mean did Noblesse have any chance at losing? His buildings in the corners can't be hit by stalkers I beleive. So even if he Creator had stood on one pylon I think Noblesse may have been able to charge in anyway and kill it.
Never should have lost the nexus at 6 o'clock though...
Yes he could have lost if creator protected his nexus he could have eventually built up an economy and got flying units. Creator had an army advantage he just ran around like an idiot and threw the game away multiple times.
On October 08 2011 17:01 storm44 wrote: Basetrading with a terran sux since they always have the option to fly their buildings and they are much more mobile, but once they doom drop and your army is out of position theres not really a choice
Exactly, seems a bit fucked up. Best thing that could happen for P was a draw, while terran always has a chance.
That aside, that was a huge mistake.
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Or you could be aware of the fact that terran can float buildings and have an air unit or enough money for a nexus before you do it, and then NOT LOSE THE NEXUS TO THE MOST OBVIOUS PLAY IN THE HISTORY OF BASE TRADING.
....... And then not losing the rest of your pylons to the same trick, over and over again.
All this bashing being said, its insanely stressful to actually play a base trade situation like this in an important match so I dont blame him too much, hes still a beast.
On October 08 2011 17:02 Jonoman92 wrote: Geeze, I mean did Noblesse have any chance at losing? His buildings in the corners can't be hit by stalkers I beleive. So even if he Creator had stood on one pylon I think Noblesse may have been able to charge in anyway and kill it.
Never should have lost the nexus at 6 o'clock though...
If could win if he did not lose his Nexus. Also, he should not turned around and tried to catch Terran's army. He should make sure that he killed all buildings, especially the starport.
On October 08 2011 17:01 storm44 wrote: Basetrading with a terran sux since they always have the option to fly their buildings and they are much more mobile, but once they doom drop and your army is out of position theres not really a choice
Exactly, seems a bit fucked up. Best thing that could happen for P was a draw, while terran always has a chance.
That aside, that was a huge mistake.
...
Or you could be aware of the fact that terran can float buildings and have an air unit or enough money for a nexus before you do it, and then NOT LOSE THE NEXUS TO THE MOST OBVIOUS PLAY IN THE HISTORY OF BASE TRADING.
....... And then not losing the rest of your pylons to the same trick, over and over again.
what did you think of him saccing 30 probes to kill a few units in the nat? think it would have been silly to maynard them across the map before T found the base or just hide them?
On October 08 2011 17:02 Jonoman92 wrote: Geeze, I mean did Noblesse have any chance at losing? His buildings in the corners can't be hit by stalkers I beleive. So even if he Creator had stood on one pylon I think Noblesse may have been able to charge in anyway and kill it.
Never should have lost the nexus at 6 o'clock though...
Yes he could have lost if creator protected his nexus he could have eventually built up an economy and got flying units. Creator had an army advantage he just ran around like an idiot and threw the game away multiple times.
On October 08 2011 17:01 storm44 wrote: Basetrading with a terran sux since they always have the option to fly their buildings and they are much more mobile, but once they doom drop and your army is out of position theres not really a choice
Exactly, seems a bit fucked up. Best thing that could happen for P was a draw, while terran always has a chance.
That aside, that was a huge mistake.
...
Or you could be aware of the fact that terran can float buildings and have an air unit or enough money for a nexus before you do it, and then NOT LOSE THE NEXUS TO THE MOST OBVIOUS PLAY IN THE HISTORY OF BASE TRADING.
....... And then not losing the rest of your pylons to the same trick, over and over again.
what did you think of him saccing 30 probes to kill a few units in the nat? think it would have been silly to maynard them across the map before T found the base or just hide them?
Definitely should've ran them away instead of engaging those marauders at the back of the mineral line. That was a stupid move.