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Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
September 28 2011 10:04 GMT
#721
100% on my Liquibet so far!
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
September 28 2011 10:04 GMT
#722
On September 28 2011 19:00 tree.hugger wrote:
What's with the awful control today? TaeJa took so much unnecessary damage from banelings all game, because he kept unsieging all his tanks at once, never targeted the banelings properly at all, and split like a chobo in almost every engagement.

And the mistake with losing the OC to lings is absurd; it's moments like that which drive home just how far Sc2 has yet to go. That's a kind of mistake that isn't just bad, it's essentially non-existent in BW. It's such a bad error, that nobody even makes it.

Two terrans with great results making ridiculous control errors today. Weird.

I know right?

People are like, "Derp SC2 is already reaching it's limits people have figured everything out herp" when we aren't even seeing pros getting even their mechanics perfected anywhere close to BW. Pros miss injects when doing basic micro. That DOESN'T happen in BW. Mistakes like missed FFs, bad splitting, killing own buildings, losing track of units.... SC2 is just an infant. I can't wait to see when pros refine their play to the point that they aren't losing because of stupid mistakes and actually TRULY outplaying each other. DRGs ZvT is probably the closest thing we have to the kind of playstyle of the future, and even that has room for improvement.
I love crazymoving
simansh
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
257 Posts
September 28 2011 10:04 GMT
#723
dat cough
#1 Zenex Line fan!
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
September 28 2011 10:05 GMT
#724
Crossfire! BOOM!

Suck it DRG!

I like DRG you know. Only I like killer better!

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If you actually understood the Scarface reference you deserve a hug
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 10:07:09
September 28 2011 10:05 GMT
#725
On September 28 2011 19:02 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 19:00 Severian wrote:
On September 28 2011 18:58 JJH777 wrote:
Good lord you guys are overhyping DRG... If his ZvT is better than Nestea it's by a hair. Nestea just beat MMA on a much much better terran map. This is probably the best ZvT map in the pool now that Belshir has been changed. Terminus is probably the worst. MMA is also > Taeja. Taeja also choked that game ridiculously so many mistakes that could have completely changed the game. Letting an orbital die to lings? Twice? Then not having tanks sieged when DRG attacked the second time. Any of those would have made a giant difference.

I'm actually getting kinda curious what it takes for people like you to admit that Nestea isn't the best player in the world at a single matchup. How many more Terrans does DRG have to beat so convincingly? How closer to a 50% winrate in the matchup does Nestea have to get?


He has to beat one of MVP/MMA/or Bomber in at least a bo5 at a lan so not AoL if it happens there. If he does that which he will have to this season if he wants to make it far I will admit he is better than Nestea at ZvT. Unless of course Nestea does the same thing in the ro8 when he will be playing either Bomber or MVP.

This is silly. Results are great and all, but the idea that you can't say that one player is better than another player from carefully watching their play is stupid. DRG doesn't need to mirror NesTea's results exactly, any more than NesTea needs to keep up with DRG's.

Use your brain, watch the games, and make a determination based on what you see. If you're right, the results will bear you out in the future.
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vtbarrera
Profile Joined October 2010
United States46 Posts
September 28 2011 10:05 GMT
#726
DRG is so sick with his ZvT. Is there any Terran in the world that can beat him cleanly in a series?
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
September 28 2011 10:05 GMT
#727
actually it wouldn't surprise me if drg hasn't trained his zvp all too much for this group :D
QuantumPhysX
Profile Joined January 2011
Philippines273 Posts
September 28 2011 10:05 GMT
#728
Final Boss vs Final Toss
A man once asked me if I saw the glass half empty or half full. I turned and said, "Neither. I see a glass twice as big as it should be."
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
September 28 2011 10:05 GMT
#729
Artosis keeps saying this about Crossfire, but Zergs keep winning there by going muta and just counterattacking and basetrading. It's nearly impossible to take a third against mutas on that map as Protoss.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
gideel
Profile Joined January 2011
1503 Posts
September 28 2011 10:05 GMT
#730
oh god that zerg voice gives me nergasms
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
September 28 2011 10:05 GMT
#731
I don't mind who wins this as long as the loser wins their next match.

DAMMIT i was typing over DRG's intro again (super loud keyboard ftl), i haven't heard it
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
September 28 2011 10:05 GMT
#732
how do protoss eat anyways?
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 28 2011 10:05 GMT
#733
On September 28 2011 19:02 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 19:00 Severian wrote:
On September 28 2011 18:58 JJH777 wrote:
Good lord you guys are overhyping DRG... If his ZvT is better than Nestea it's by a hair. Nestea just beat MMA on a much much better terran map. This is probably the best ZvT map in the pool now that Belshir has been changed. Terminus is probably the worst. MMA is also > Taeja. Taeja also choked that game ridiculously so many mistakes that could have completely changed the game. Letting an orbital die to lings? Twice? Then not having tanks sieged when DRG attacked the second time. Any of those would have made a giant difference.

I'm actually getting kinda curious what it takes for people like you to admit that Nestea isn't the best player in the world at a single matchup. How many more Terrans does DRG have to beat so convincingly? How closer to a 50% winrate in the matchup does Nestea have to get?


He has to beat one of MVP/MMA/or Bomber in at least a bo5 at a lan so not AoL if it happens there. If he does that which he will have to this season if he wants to make it far I will admit he is better than Nestea at ZvT. Unless of course Nestea does the same thing in the ro8 when he will be playing either Bomber or MVP.

Not even Nestea has done that so how is that fair? And unlike Nestea DRG has beaten MVP and MMA in a bo3.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
September 28 2011 10:05 GMT
#734
I love the zerg intro so much
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
September 28 2011 10:05 GMT
#735
On September 28 2011 18:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:
It might have been skipped over when I asked it, but does anyone besides DRG and Leenock get Mutalisk Carapace upgrades in ZvT? How much does it benefit vs Marine fire?
The norm seems to be to go for +1 air attack right away, then get only air armor. This is mainly for the obvious transition to Broodlords, but also to match thor upgrades to make sure they can't 2-shot mutas.

Either upgrade is gonna help vs marines, but allowing broodlords/overlords/corruptors to survive longer is a pretty big advantage for armor.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 10:06:14
September 28 2011 10:06 GMT
#736
On September 28 2011 19:04 MenSol[ZerO] wrote:
why do they still use this map when everyone hates it


what.

no.

Crossfire has made for some excellent games and it's map architecture being so different from most standard fare has meant we've seen plenty of unorthodox play on it too.

Games on Crossfire are fun!
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
September 28 2011 10:06 GMT
#737
On September 28 2011 19:03 Belisarius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 19:00 tree.hugger wrote:
What's with the awful control today? TaeJa took so much unnecessary damage from banelings all game, because he kept unsieging all his tanks at once, never targeted the banelings properly at all, and split like a chobo in almost every engagement.

And the mistake with losing the OC to lings is absurd; it's moments like that which drive home just how far Sc2 has yet to go. That's a kind of mistake that isn't just bad, it's essentially non-existent in BW. It's such a bad error, that nobody even makes it.

Two terrans with great results making ridiculous control errors today. Weird.


My theory: they're scared now that Blizzard is making serious noises about nerfing T, and are sacrificing themselves in this trying time in order to lower the percentage of T's in code S.

lol that would be ammusing GSL terrans band together and split the prize winnings from a couple months of domination after they get a huge buff due to no wins..
Deshkar
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore1244 Posts
September 28 2011 10:06 GMT
#738
On September 28 2011 19:05 starfries wrote:
how do protoss eat anyways?


do they even eat, they look awfully skinny for their size.
Ryukku
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore545 Posts
September 28 2011 10:06 GMT
#739
On September 28 2011 19:02 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 19:00 Severian wrote:
On September 28 2011 18:58 JJH777 wrote:
Good lord you guys are overhyping DRG... If his ZvT is better than Nestea it's by a hair. Nestea just beat MMA on a much much better terran map. This is probably the best ZvT map in the pool now that Belshir has been changed. Terminus is probably the worst. MMA is also > Taeja. Taeja also choked that game ridiculously so many mistakes that could have completely changed the game. Letting an orbital die to lings? Twice? Then not having tanks sieged when DRG attacked the second time. Any of those would have made a giant difference.

I'm actually getting kinda curious what it takes for people like you to admit that Nestea isn't the best player in the world at a single matchup. How many more Terrans does DRG have to beat so convincingly? How closer to a 50% winrate in the matchup does Nestea have to get?


He has to beat one of MVP/MMA/or Bomber in at least a bo5 at a lan so not AoL if it happens there. If he does that which he will have to this season if he wants to make it far I will admit he is better than Nestea at ZvT. Unless of course Nestea does the same thing in the ro8 when he will be playing either Bomber or MVP.


people like you only look at results and not the game. im sorry i just cant argee with you.

DRG's ZvT is ahead of Nestea's and even he doesnt fulfill your ridiculous criteria of only winning a BO5 at a LAN. and btw, nestea's overall record to MVP/MMA is horrible.
QuixoticO
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Netherlands810 Posts
September 28 2011 10:06 GMT
#740
I hope Killer wins it just to see a Protoss go through and I have faith in DRG winning the next match if he loses this one.
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