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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
On September 22 2011 15:30 iamke55 wrote: If yugioh was as good as Hero or better, why would he cheese on Dual Sight? who is better than who is subjective, what is objective is that yugioh won his games. Complaining about cheese is ridiculous and makes people sound like all games should be NR20 that said i wish hero won >:| | ||
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W2
United States1177 Posts
"where are all the heroes?" | ||
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keioh
France1099 Posts
On September 22 2011 15:31 keioh wrote: I don't think it is this obvious when you're in the booth, when it's a deciding match for your season, when you have to scout 2 gold bases on a large map where Zerg tend to be greedy, when you're already shaken by the mistake of losing your scouting probe, and when you just got stomped in previous game. It's an avalanche effect, he could not afford to lose his probe, ONE drone wasn't worth the whole scouting information. The more I see DT shrine, the more I think it' should not be build before the 15th minutes or so because dts are better to draw attention and force multitask situation than they are to get a huge lead in the beginning. Edit : fuck, I quoted myself instead of editing :x | ||
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rdj107
United States336 Posts
On September 22 2011 15:30 iamke55 wrote: If yugioh was as good as Hero or better, why would he cheese on Dual Sight? Because hero let him. | ||
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rightstuff
United States160 Posts
Not that I'm criticizing YugiOh. I feel like the game was a legit win. But by THAT logic.... BitByBit is a good player. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
On September 22 2011 15:30 iamke55 wrote: If yugioh was as good as Hero or better, why would he cheese on Dual Sight? Well that's just terrible reasoning. Like someone calling Bomber a lesser player than Keen because he did that FE to the gold into mass rax vanilla marine timing attempt. The opportunity presented itself when HerO went FFE and lost his scouting probe, and as illustrated, it ended up being extremely effective for YugiOh. If you want to cry about the map being Z favoured in a standard ZvP then the decision to all in has the added value of being even more unexpected. ==== I can't decide if this series is win/win or lose/lose for me. Sjow's been one of my favourite international Terrans forever, and I've been a Curious fanboy ever since he 2-0'd Huk with some cool ling/festor/ultra back in one of the first KR weeklies. I want both to advance, and I don't want either to lose  | ||
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OminouS
Sweden1343 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On September 22 2011 15:33 rightstuff wrote: Not that I'm criticizing YugiOh. I feel like the game was a legit win. But by THAT logic.... BitByBit is a good player. He must have been pretty good at the time to get through the prelims. sick scv control  | ||
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Greggle
United States1131 Posts
On September 22 2011 15:30 iamke55 wrote: If yugioh was as good as Hero or better, why would he cheese on Dual Sight? The cheese argument has been beaten to death. Hero should have scouted and defended it, and if YuGiOh saw an opportunity to win the game and didn't take it then he would have to be pretty stupid. I'm happy for YuGiOh, he always looks so sad, even after winning a game. Glad to see the guy break the curse. | ||
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Alejandrisha
United States6565 Posts
On September 22 2011 15:33 keioh wrote: Edit : the more I see DT shrine, the more I think it' should not be build before the 15th minutes or so because dts are better to draw attention and force multitask situation than they are to get a huge lead in the beginning. Yep.. Can't remember the last time a Z was unprepared for 2 base dt. Really don't know why it's still being used so frequently as it is such a huge investment. Maybe we will see it less with the cheaper overseer. Definitely agree that it is necessary in late game scenarios to cancel later bases. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On September 22 2011 15:34 OminouS wrote: I always get so happy when I hear that Takida song on GSL, guys from my hometown (population about 3000) that I grown up with and followed since they played on small stages and garages to being played on GSL, kind of cool imo ^^; That's really cool! | ||
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
On September 22 2011 15:33 rightstuff wrote: Not that I'm criticizing YugiOh. I feel like the game was a legit win. But by THAT logic.... BitByBit is a good player. Except where is he now? he certainly not winning.... | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On September 22 2011 15:33 rightstuff wrote: Not that I'm criticizing YugiOh. I feel like the game was a legit win. But by THAT logic.... BitByBit is a good player. BitByBit isn't the best example, seeing as how he has fallen off the map HARD after the GSL Open seasons. | ||
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IMSmooth
United States679 Posts
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TYJ.Aoy
Brazil1265 Posts
On September 22 2011 15:33 askTeivospy wrote: who is better than who is subjective, what is objective is that yugioh won his games. Complaining about cheese is ridiculous and makes people sound like all games should be NR20 that said i wish hero won >:| Yugioh is pretty objectively better than Hero. | ||
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LtLolburger
New Zealand365 Posts
On September 22 2011 15:31 hmunkey wrote: I really wish you fools would stop blaming imbalance every time a protoss plays poorly and loses. Hero deserved to lose. It was a standard and pretty easy to hold allin. MC deserved to lose -- did you not see the same final two games of the set I did? Naniwa... well yeah... Huk has been traveling (and not really practicing) for a while now. And did anyone really think Puzzle would win in a group made up of Bomber, Ryung, and MKP? Just face it: protosses have been losing in this GSL because they played worse than their opponent. Maybe there is a valid case for imbalance, but you have to find an example where the protoss player isn't just losing because they were supply blocked, or because their strategy was idiotic. Where in this thread is anyone saying Hero lost due to imba? He was definitely outplayed in the games he lost, both due to poor decision making on his part. | ||
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rightstuff
United States160 Posts
On September 22 2011 15:34 mango_destroyer wrote: Except where is he now? he certainly not winning.... I think you missed the point of my post. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On September 22 2011 15:34 mango_destroyer wrote: Except where is he now? he certainly not winning.... He meant when Bitty was in the GSL. Let's not be petty towards each other over this. | ||
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OlorinTheWise
United States173 Posts
On September 22 2011 15:30 iamke55 wrote: If yugioh was as good as Hero or better, why would he cheese on Dual Sight? To punish Hero for using the same build three games in a row? Just a thought... >.> | ||
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