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On September 18 2011 05:12 Xivsa wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 05:11 Enceladus wrote:On September 18 2011 05:09 akaname wrote: protoss player here... what is the perfect terran counter to ultras? Battlecruisers... Naw, too expensive. Banshees are the best pure counter, what with cloak and everything.
They both take way too long to kill ultras. Half ur base is dead before they cleaned up. Just MMM with marauders is the most efficient way to kill that composition. + Ghosts against infestors.
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On September 18 2011 05:12 oDDable wrote: Does anyone else feel like Thorzain has reached the point where he simply needs to get faster? He has such a profound understanding of unit composition and his engagements are solid enough, but it just feels like DRG is outpacing him on everything.
Yeah, but it takes time to raise your apm. I'm sure he will be more faster in the future. Back in BW, it was an archievement if you could raise your average from 110 to 130 or so.
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Gogogo DRG! I want a Zerg win! :D
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Ghosts are okay vs. Ultras. They don't counter them, but you get ghosts because they are good vs:
1. Infestors 2. Brood Lords 3. Ultras
Whereas Vikings are good against only Brood Lords, while Marauders are good against only Ultras.
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On September 18 2011 05:12 Baituri wrote: DRG is killing Thorzain with his muta's. Thorzain is normally really spread out and people don't know what to do against it, since he is everywhere at once with that style. But DRG has such good muta control that he picks him apart.
I agree completely. Watching Thorzain against Zergs that don't have this kind of Muta control, it feels like he has the whole map and the Zerg can't move anywhere. Against DRG, he keeps losing those small groups of Marines and Tanks all the time, and can't really get his slow choke out style going like he wants to.
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On September 18 2011 05:15 LawnMower wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 05:12 oDDable wrote: Does anyone else feel like Thorzain has reached the point where he simply needs to get faster? He has such a profound understanding of unit composition and his engagements are solid enough, but it just feels like DRG is outpacing him on everything. Got the exact same feeling. I think the time when Thorzain starts "picking up", is when his 3/3 upgrades are finished, at least thats how I see it as a spectator.
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On September 18 2011 05:14 dsousa wrote: Who's the blonde dude they keep featuring in that commercial? I've see it 10 times now, and still don't know.
cArn? Famous Swedish CS player
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On September 18 2011 05:15 figq wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 05:12 Crowned wrote:On September 18 2011 05:11 Jnai wrote: They should stop running tournaments and just have Artosis distribute money to whoever he thinks deserves it. The guy is just never wrong. truth Artosis is bigger than esports. (but not bigger than his ferret; that thing is scary)
Clide would be soooo rich
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Is TotalBiscuit's voice going? That will suck for him.
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On September 18 2011 05:14 Orome wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 05:12 Crowned wrote:On September 18 2011 05:11 Jnai wrote: They should stop running tournaments and just have Artosis distribute money to whoever he thinks deserves it. The guy is just never wrong. truth he has a long history of bad predictions lol gositerran and clide would be rich
he's been picking like a champ on SOTG as of late though. Although this one was kind of obvious.
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Am I the only one who thinks that Thorzain could kill like 10 more drones when they were transferred to the natural? It could have been so different...
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Actually, Ultras absolutely destroyed Thorzain but a maxed out ling bling muta army would have done the same. I fail to see how ultras had any bearing on the outcome of that game.
Having said that, they aren't actually that terrible. They just have the 'well, if he made marauders/immortals, I actually lose the game in which I had a massive lead'. Thorzain only killed 12 drones with that drop, no more than those early roaches did. I dunno how DRG didn't die to that.
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On September 18 2011 05:14 Hodgins_ wrote:I don't even think preparing for ultras would have helped that much, Thorzain just lost too much stuff to mutas, constantly losing small groups of marines and tanks to mutas really hurt him 
Yeah... it's one of those situations where he just got picked apart all game long. The Ultras were the nail in the coffin and a great choice, but he would have lost that game even if he made Broodlords (or stayed on Lair tech) imo.
If Thorzain had been ahead all game, he could have gone Ghosts or whatever.
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On September 18 2011 05:16 Linwelin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 05:15 figq wrote:On September 18 2011 05:12 Crowned wrote:On September 18 2011 05:11 Jnai wrote: They should stop running tournaments and just have Artosis distribute money to whoever he thinks deserves it. The guy is just never wrong. truth Artosis is bigger than esports. (but not bigger than his ferret; that thing is scary) Clide would be soooo rich I thought Artosis has switched his man-crush.
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On September 18 2011 05:15 Glioburd wrote: Sick comeback from DRG o,o
DRG didn't lose a lot to be honest...
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On September 18 2011 05:15 Tewks44 wrote: hey I'm just tuning in. How's it looking between Thorzain and DRG?
2-1 DRG
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Wow that Thorzain avatar was sick ! Any gif ?
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On September 18 2011 05:13 JoeSchmoe wrote: ghosts don't counter ultras -.-
people need to stop referencing that mvp vs july game.
they can just gotta make enough thorzain should have started them sooner. but still would have lost the ultras was a surprise and got overrun
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On September 18 2011 05:11 Enceladus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2011 05:09 akaname wrote: protoss player here... what is the perfect terran counter to ultras? Battlecruisers... ha. actually, i played a FFA with a friend where he got to ultras and i got to carriers, and he just ran around and stomped everything, and my carriers couldn't do damage to them fast enough!
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On September 18 2011 05:11 Jnai wrote: They should stop running tournaments and just have Artosis distribute money to whoever he thinks deserves it. The guy is just never wrong. If that happened, GosI[Terran] would be a rich man.
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