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On September 18 2011 01:54 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Oh stop whining you lot. Bunch of sissies on this forum. The only drama is coming from you guys. Enjoy the tournament and stop acting like this is TMZ XD
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
September 17 2011 20:15 GMT
#8481
On September 18 2011 05:12 Xivsa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 05:11 Enceladus wrote:
On September 18 2011 05:09 akaname wrote:
protoss player here... what is the perfect terran counter to ultras?

Battlecruisers...


Naw, too expensive. Banshees are the best pure counter, what with cloak and everything.


They both take way too long to kill ultras. Half ur base is dead before they cleaned up. Just MMM with marauders is the most efficient way to kill that composition. + Ghosts against infestors.
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
hewley
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1063 Posts
September 17 2011 20:15 GMT
#8482
On September 18 2011 05:12 oDDable wrote:
Does anyone else feel like Thorzain has reached the point where he simply needs to get faster? He has such a profound understanding of unit composition and his engagements are solid enough, but it just feels like DRG is outpacing him on everything.


Yeah, but it takes time to raise your apm. I'm sure he will be more faster in the future. Back in BW, it was an archievement if you could raise your average from 110 to 130 or so.
Esports bubble pop, bubble pop
Soma Cruz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States209 Posts
September 17 2011 20:15 GMT
#8483
Gogogo DRG! I want a Zerg win! :D
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
September 17 2011 20:15 GMT
#8484
Ghosts are okay vs. Ultras. They don't counter them, but you get ghosts because they are good vs:

1. Infestors
2. Brood Lords
3. Ultras

Whereas Vikings are good against only Brood Lords, while Marauders are good against only Ultras.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
September 17 2011 20:15 GMT
#8485
On September 18 2011 05:12 Baituri wrote:
DRG is killing Thorzain with his muta's. Thorzain is normally really spread out and people don't know what to do against it, since he is everywhere at once with that style. But DRG has such good muta control that he picks him apart.


I agree completely. Watching Thorzain against Zergs that don't have this kind of Muta control, it feels like he has the whole map and the Zerg can't move anywhere. Against DRG, he keeps losing those small groups of Marines and Tanks all the time, and can't really get his slow choke out style going like he wants to.
Nate.F
Profile Joined April 2011
918 Posts
September 17 2011 20:16 GMT
#8486
On September 18 2011 05:15 LawnMower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 05:12 oDDable wrote:
Does anyone else feel like Thorzain has reached the point where he simply needs to get faster? He has such a profound understanding of unit composition and his engagements are solid enough, but it just feels like DRG is outpacing him on everything.

Got the exact same feeling.

I think the time when Thorzain starts "picking up", is when his 3/3 upgrades are finished, at least thats how I see it as a spectator.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 20:16:21
September 17 2011 20:16 GMT
#8487
On September 18 2011 05:14 dsousa wrote:
Who's the blonde dude they keep featuring in that commercial? I've see it 10 times now, and still don't know.


cArn?
Famous Swedish CS player
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
September 17 2011 20:16 GMT
#8488
On September 18 2011 05:15 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 05:12 Crowned wrote:
On September 18 2011 05:11 Jnai wrote:
They should stop running tournaments and just have Artosis distribute money to whoever he thinks deserves it. The guy is just never wrong.


truth
Artosis is bigger than esports.
(but not bigger than his ferret; that thing is scary)


Clide would be soooo rich
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
BIGSTEVE808
Profile Joined April 2011
United States225 Posts
September 17 2011 20:16 GMT
#8489
Is TotalBiscuit's voice going? That will suck for him.
Crowned
Profile Joined August 2011
United States368 Posts
September 17 2011 20:16 GMT
#8490
On September 18 2011 05:14 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 05:12 Crowned wrote:
On September 18 2011 05:11 Jnai wrote:
They should stop running tournaments and just have Artosis distribute money to whoever he thinks deserves it. The guy is just never wrong.


truth


he has a long history of bad predictions lol

gositerran and clide would be rich



he's been picking like a champ on SOTG as of late though. Although this one was kind of obvious.
It's cool to love to win, but it's better to hate to lose.
xN.07)MaK
Profile Joined January 2006
Spain1159 Posts
September 17 2011 20:16 GMT
#8491
Am I the only one who thinks that Thorzain could kill like 10 more drones when they were transferred to the natural? It could have been so different...
El micro es el último recurso que les queda a los que no producen lo suficiente
Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
September 17 2011 20:16 GMT
#8492
Actually, Ultras absolutely destroyed Thorzain but a maxed out ling bling muta army would have done the same. I fail to see how ultras had any bearing on the outcome of that game.

Having said that, they aren't actually that terrible. They just have the 'well, if he made marauders/immortals, I actually lose the game in which I had a massive lead'. Thorzain only killed 12 drones with that drop, no more than those early roaches did. I dunno how DRG didn't die to that.
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
September 17 2011 20:16 GMT
#8493
On September 18 2011 05:14 Hodgins_ wrote:
I don't even think preparing for ultras would have helped that much, Thorzain just lost too much stuff to mutas, constantly losing small groups of marines and tanks to mutas really hurt him


Yeah... it's one of those situations where he just got picked apart all game long. The Ultras were the nail in the coffin and a great choice, but he would have lost that game even if he made Broodlords (or stayed on Lair tech) imo.

If Thorzain had been ahead all game, he could have gone Ghosts or whatever.
Nate.F
Profile Joined April 2011
918 Posts
September 17 2011 20:16 GMT
#8494
On September 18 2011 05:16 Linwelin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 05:15 figq wrote:
On September 18 2011 05:12 Crowned wrote:
On September 18 2011 05:11 Jnai wrote:
They should stop running tournaments and just have Artosis distribute money to whoever he thinks deserves it. The guy is just never wrong.


truth
Artosis is bigger than esports.
(but not bigger than his ferret; that thing is scary)


Clide would be soooo rich

I thought Artosis has switched his man-crush.
beamingrobot
Profile Joined October 2010
United States685 Posts
September 17 2011 20:16 GMT
#8495
On September 18 2011 05:15 Glioburd wrote:
Sick comeback from DRG o,o


DRG didn't lose a lot to be honest...
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46227 Posts
September 17 2011 20:16 GMT
#8496
On September 18 2011 05:15 Tewks44 wrote:
hey I'm just tuning in. How's it looking between Thorzain and DRG?


2-1 DRG
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
yummi
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland48 Posts
September 17 2011 20:16 GMT
#8497
Wow that Thorzain avatar was sick ! Any gif ?
Whiteman103
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1070 Posts
September 17 2011 20:16 GMT
#8498
On September 18 2011 05:13 JoeSchmoe wrote:
ghosts don't counter ultras -.-

people need to stop referencing that mvp vs july game.


they can just gotta make enough thorzain should have started them sooner. but still would have lost the ultras was a surprise and got overrun
akaname
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom599 Posts
September 17 2011 20:16 GMT
#8499
On September 18 2011 05:11 Enceladus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 18 2011 05:09 akaname wrote:
protoss player here... what is the perfect terran counter to ultras?

Battlecruisers...

ha. actually, i played a FFA with a friend where he got to ultras and i got to carriers, and he just ran around and stomped everything, and my carriers couldn't do damage to them fast enough!
There can be only none
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
September 17 2011 20:16 GMT
#8500
On September 18 2011 05:11 Jnai wrote:
They should stop running tournaments and just have Artosis distribute money to whoever he thinks deserves it. The guy is just never wrong.

If that happened, GosI[Terran] would be a rich man.
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