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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 16 2011 02:15 GMT
#281
Why would you attack just before colossus range finishes?
Tanks were sieged far away from his nat, he still had time to stall.
Off-season = best season
Haydin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1481 Posts
September 16 2011 02:16 GMT
#282
On September 16 2011 11:13 Deshkar wrote:
That was a pretty poor 111 actually, but the response was even worse-_-

attacking before 2nd colo and thermal lance was mere seconds away from completion;
colo hitting bunkers and not rines-_-


This. So many mistakes by both players in every game.
aka ilovesharkpeople
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25737 Posts
September 16 2011 02:16 GMT
#283
Axslav's build seemed a pretty decent response, he just engaged badly by not waiting for thermal lance
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dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 02:17:10
September 16 2011 02:16 GMT
#284
On September 16 2011 11:15 -y0shi- wrote:
That 111 was pretty smoothly executed wasnt it?

But that means lance shouldnt have been done?


No he was supply blocked for a long time ><. He should have had much more marines.

Rain's been supply blocked in every of those three games somehow.

And Axlav should have waited for range.
Go go Alliance.
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
September 16 2011 02:16 GMT
#285
On September 16 2011 11:15 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 11:14 QTIP. wrote:
On September 16 2011 11:13 TheHova wrote:
Didn't Axslav say he always wins against 1-1-1? lol


Yeah.... if he can't hold Rain's 1-1-1... PuMa must be taking it easy on him.


Axslav did not control that well at all, and neither did Rain. To hold off the 1/1/1, you need to outmicro the terran. He didn't.


Couldn't agree with you more.
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
September 16 2011 02:17 GMT
#286
I can see why Axslav is confident against the 1/1/1. He responds correctly with a fast nexus, gets a good unit comp. Any crappier 1/1/1 attempts will get crushed by his defense/ But of course, a even slightly okay 1/1/1 still kills him...because it is the 1/1/1.
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
September 16 2011 02:17 GMT
#287
On September 16 2011 11:15 Kieofire wrote:
Rain needs to change it up a little bit, because when someone does find out a way to beat the 1-1-1 he is going to have a hard time.


Yeah, just like he had a hard time staying in code s when people worked out the 2 rax.

Wait, what?
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Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
September 16 2011 02:18 GMT
#288
To be fair to Rain, I would not judge him on whether he is 'just a cheeser' on this match up.

As far as I am concerned, there is just about no reason to not 1/1/1 on maps that are good for it in TvP. At least there is no reason not to do it until you meet a player that holds them off legitimately.

And Axslav, I had faith after the first game. Of course, the first game was the biggest anti-timing attack so far of NASL S2, but oh well.

And Orb, I am sorry about my premature comment about missing Lz earlier. You are awesome. Not that I do not miss Lz, but it has nothing to do with Orb's casting at this point.
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
September 16 2011 02:18 GMT
#289
im not even sure what to make out of that mess >.<

I think axslav was just feelikng like he had it and just attacked 1 second too early :/
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
September 16 2011 02:19 GMT
#290
You can see that Axslav knows how to beat the 1/1/1 he definitely responded appropriately he just unfortunately made a poor decision to engage and microed terribly. It's a knife edge encounter - it just seems Axslav played it worse than Rain (supply blocked?)
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-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
September 16 2011 02:19 GMT
#291
I think orb was in serious pain watching that xD
ranjutan
Profile Joined November 2010
United States636 Posts
September 16 2011 02:19 GMT
#292
On September 16 2011 11:15 Kieofire wrote:
Rain needs to change it up a little bit, because when someone does find out a way to beat the 1-1-1 he is going to have a hard time.

Not really... against top players, definitely... but it's not like all Rain can do is cheese. He has good late-game play as well, he just cheeses a lot. I think if he was consistently losing whenever he tried all-in plays, he'd change it up and still do pretty well.

definitely needs to work on his depot timing though.
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Adebisi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1637 Posts
September 16 2011 02:19 GMT
#293
Digging orb casting NASL~
Shaetan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1175 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 02:21:53
September 16 2011 02:21 GMT
#294
Wait rocks at Metalopolis gold? what?

edit: and Terminus has rocks at the 3rd?

whyyyyy
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Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
September 16 2011 02:21 GMT
#295
On September 16 2011 11:18 -y0shi- wrote:
im not even sure what to make out of that mess >.<

I think axslav was just feelikng like he had it and just attacked 1 second too early :/

I don't think it would have mattered. You need 2 base income to hold that build and to hold that first attack he would have lost all probes at his natural. the 2nd attack would come and he wouldn't have the units to hold a second push if he was able to break the first one, which is questionable.
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
September 16 2011 02:21 GMT
#296
On September 16 2011 11:19 bkrow wrote:
You can see that Axslav knows how to beat the 1/1/1 he definitely responded appropriately he just unfortunately made a poor decision to engage and microed terribly. It's a knife edge encounter - it just seems Axslav played it worse than Rain (supply blocked?)



I think their mistakes were kinda even. A proper 111 attacks so that you cant get thermal lance out and in that case the result wouldve been the same
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
September 16 2011 02:23 GMT
#297
Gogo BRAT_OK!
말크 : ^_^~ NeO)GabuAt, vGODieN
QTIP.
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2113 Posts
September 16 2011 02:28 GMT
#298
nooo haypro
"Trash Micro but Win. Its Marin." - Min Chul
Shaetan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1175 Posts
September 16 2011 02:29 GMT
#299
that was a really bad defense
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Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 02:29:51
September 16 2011 02:29 GMT
#300
On September 16 2011 11:19 bkrow wrote:
You can see that Axslav knows how to beat the 1/1/1 he definitely responded appropriately he just unfortunately made a poor decision to engage and microed terribly. It's a knife edge encounter - it just seems Axslav played it worse than Rain (supply blocked?)

Fast Colossus is good against 3-1-1, but not 1-1-1

1-1-1 auto wins if you go Colossus because it hits soo fast
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