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On September 12 2011 16:27 Goldfish wrote:
I know this has been already said but GOM has provided a lot of content for free over the year.
1. The first game of every match is free (for VODs). You can watch the first VOD for free then just read up on team liquid (liquid bets or LR thread) to see the results of the rest matches. Some first games are really epic too so it's not like the first games aren't a big deal or anything.
2. Special stuff like SC vs DRG and gomcam things (project A) for example are free.
3. World tournament.
4. The free VOD weekend.
Also you can't compare this to MLG because GSL does this all the time while MLG does this once a week with a much smaller prize pool (only the finals bring good prize but even then 1st place in finals is only a few dollars higher than first place monthly GSL seasons).
MLG also has other games too before SC2; MLG had time to build up while GSL just started out.
Finally this is just an extra thing they're putting out and organizing.
Gom was around before sc2. It does suck that they aren't having a free stream when every tournament out there has a free stream. Seems like an odd choice to me honestly.
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On September 09 2011 20:08 Kazeyonoma wrote:
well here's what everyone wanted. a chance to see the best of the best duke it out without cheesey or so called "undeserving" players knocking them out before we see them in a championship level matchup.
I don't see how we DONT see amazing games/playoffs from this.
so excited! And i get it free for being a loyal subscriber. yay!
So much irony in this statement the logical loop holes would overheat a super computer.
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I foresee MC getting assraped in his group...
GL to HuK, tough group as well.
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I'm going to reserve judgement on Naniwa. I was just checking out TLPD to compare Tester and him to all the other Protoss out there. While he hasn't proven much in GSL he does have a much better record than Huk and White-Ra in the international scene which I don't keep track of. Being debatedly #1 protoss career wise in the foreign scene is not bad.
Tester on the other hand I still think doesn't belong.
He doesn't have the halo factor of being a legend like Boxer and he squandered the popularity he had in beta with mediocre results.
While he has to play in a tougher scene than Naniwa,his career results are vastly inferior to Hungon who has been top 4 more times than he has been top 8; or Puzzle who has a winrate more than 60% in all matchups in his recorded career, compared to Tester who can't crack 50% vs Terran and is exactly 50% vs Protoss.
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On September 12 2011 13:42 Moralez wrote:10 days without gsl? 
edit: seems not
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On September 09 2011 23:48 Jakkerr wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 23:44 Airship wrote:On September 09 2011 23:41 Vul wrote:On September 09 2011 23:30 Airship wrote:
They don't need to offer a free stream at all, you're lucky that they do. It's worth paying for, so people pay for it. It's kind of how business works. And they'll do very well with this, it will most likely be a high quality show as usual, well worth the measly $5, and frankly losing people like you leeching their bandwidth who will clearly never pay for anything is probably for the best.
edit: this was aimed at Jakkerr This is a really ignorant thing to say. When people watch a tournament, even on the free stream, they are contributing by increasing the popularity of the show, which is what sponsors care about. I understand this, but gomtv's tournaments have been pretty firmly established now as the spotlight premier stacraft 2 leagues. If the free stream made them that much money, they'd have no reason not to offer it. They obviously want to move more towards a membership orientated business plan, at least with regards to fringe tournaments, and I hate to break it to you but they're popular enough to be able to do that. More to the point though, that doesn't change the fact that we all know it's worth the $5. And what u just said is exactly what they shouldn't do. They would make themselves effectively reliable of the fans, a business would ONLY try this as an effort to gain more money because there aren't enough companies that are willing to invest in korean SC2. Money from the public is never a reliable and steady source of income, which any company needs. Maybe I'm exaggerating and there aren't any problems, but I know what I'm talking about and this way of 'doing business' sounds very strange to me.
I generally agree with the idea that charging advertisers is more economically viable than charging viewers but it is not always going to be the most sensible. HBO avoided advertisers simply because advertisers are more organized as a group to stop a tv production team from producing content that they view as offensive. The only power viewers have is to change the channel.
We've already discussed or read about in the past how advertising systems can be detrimental to esports if you have too many of them wanting to be represented and thus forcing commercial breaks between casts. Only soccer has avoided this type of gameflow butchering. It provides hope that if any esport blows up and tries to go for the advertisement route they could be handled like soccor but that is something we as fans have to push for when the opportunity presents itself again.
For the time being what Gom is doing is fine.
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Will gladly pay for this to see all of the most entertaining/best/my fav players in 1 tournament.
Seriously
Huk, Nani, MVP, Nestea, DRG OMFFGGGG yes.
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On September 12 2011 13:38 mprs wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 14:22 anonymitylol wrote:
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SlayerS_BoxeR
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IMLosirA
IMMvp
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SlayerS_MMA
Dignitas.NaNiwa
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MarineKingPrime.WE
StarTale_TricKsteR
One of these does not belong... You mean the three Code A players and one Code B player? But you are right. Out of all the players that reach top 8 every season, trickster is the worst of them. GSL 1: Top 8 GSL 2: DNQ GSL 3: DNQ Code S 1 (JAN): Top 8 (lost to Rainbow 2-0) Code S 2 (MAR): Top 16 (lost to sC 2-1) Code S 3 (MAY): Up and Down (3rd seed), made it back to Code S Super Tournament: Top 32 (lost to TheBest 2-1) Code S 4 (JUL): Top 8 (lost 3-2 to Losira) Code S 5 (AUG): Up and Down (4th seed), 2-4, and Code A Yes, he did fall to Code A. But so did MVP, MC, and MKP. And he is Protoss!
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Sick sick line up!! And btw, every P player want to see Tester.
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On September 10 2011 02:31 Pretzelz wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2011 02:28 babylon wrote:On September 10 2011 02:20 Amestir wrote:
Wait, how did Trickster get in this? The same way Naniwa got in there ... ? I'm pretty sure this event is a direct reaction to the number of Terrans in Code S right now. Racial diversity, people! Just look at that even distribution! In my opinion someone like Puzzle deserves it more than Trickster.
And Trickster is more deserving than Naniwa. So if you want puzzle in then kick naniwa out.
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Off topic, but when will the Code S group selections be held?
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If I havent purchased a team league does that count towards this or will I still get this for free?
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Why would any1 be stupid enough to pay for this?
Gom has shown they are not capable of keeping your info safe... must be pretty stupid to buy anything from them at this point.
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This is going to very quickly become protoss-less.
Losira, Mma/Nestea, July and MVP in Ro4. Probably an Mma/Nestea vs MVP final. I don't understand what Naniwa is doing in one of those groups. He hasn't performed well in GSL this far, he didn't make it past ro32 in code A, he seems like he's there just to please the foreign community. (Unlike Huk, who's actually "earned" his spot so to speak).
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Boxer is here because he is Boxer and everyone wants to see him in every tournament. Likewise Naniwa is here because he is a foreigner favorite and since this is paid only to watch, GOM needs to attract potential buyers and inclusion of Boxer and Naniwa is a pretty smart way to do it. Trickster on the other hand has no business being here, he has had less results than Hongun, san, Inca... and is not as good as Puzzle or Genius. Trickster's popularity is almost nonexistant these days and nowhere near the level of the other players in this tourny. Protoss wise, Puzzle, Alicia, and Hero are all more popular players than him.
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Woot, buying every season pass is gonna pay off :D
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On September 12 2011 16:42 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 16:27 Goldfish wrote:
I know this has been already said but GOM has provided a lot of content for free over the year.
1. The first game of every match is free (for VODs). You can watch the first VOD for free then just read up on team liquid (liquid bets or LR thread) to see the results of the rest matches. Some first games are really epic too so it's not like the first games aren't a big deal or anything.
2. Special stuff like SC vs DRG and gomcam things (project A) for example are free.
3. World tournament.
4. The free VOD weekend.
Also you can't compare this to MLG because GSL does this all the time while MLG does this once a week with a much smaller prize pool (only the finals bring good prize but even then 1st place in finals is only a few dollars higher than first place monthly GSL seasons).
MLG also has other games too before SC2; MLG had time to build up while GSL just started out.
Finally this is just an extra thing they're putting out and organizing. Gom was around before sc2. It does suck that they aren't having a free stream when every tournament out there has a free stream. Seems like an odd choice to me honestly.
What do you mean?
There's a free low quality stream and a paid subscription for the VODs and HQ stream, just like every other tournament out there (except for TL-related tournaments really).
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MKP and MMA and Huk. I want one of those to win. Mostly MKP because he needs it the most
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On September 13 2011 01:36 wklbishop wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 16:42 jmbthirteen wrote:On September 12 2011 16:27 Goldfish wrote:
I know this has been already said but GOM has provided a lot of content for free over the year.
1. The first game of every match is free (for VODs). You can watch the first VOD for free then just read up on team liquid (liquid bets or LR thread) to see the results of the rest matches. Some first games are really epic too so it's not like the first games aren't a big deal or anything.
2. Special stuff like SC vs DRG and gomcam things (project A) for example are free.
3. World tournament.
4. The free VOD weekend.
Also you can't compare this to MLG because GSL does this all the time while MLG does this once a week with a much smaller prize pool (only the finals bring good prize but even then 1st place in finals is only a few dollars higher than first place monthly GSL seasons).
MLG also has other games too before SC2; MLG had time to build up while GSL just started out.
Finally this is just an extra thing they're putting out and organizing. Gom was around before sc2. It does suck that they aren't having a free stream when every tournament out there has a free stream. Seems like an odd choice to me honestly. What do you mean? There's a free low quality stream and a paid subscription for the VODs and HQ stream, just like every other tournament out there (except for TL-related tournaments really).
not sure if you missed it, but Arena of Legends has no free stream (which is a horrible idea imo)
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Boxer Go Go Go!~ Glad to see him showing up in so many different tournaments now, Still believe in his bonjwaness
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