• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 20:18
CEST 02:18
KST 09:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners6Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO8 Preview5[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies21
Community News
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28)8[BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June4Weekly Cups (May 25-31): Clem doubles, 2v2 circuit heads toward finale0StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th153Weekly Cups (May 18-24): MaxPax wins doubles0
StarCraft 2
General
High level ptr replays? where can I find them? StarCraft II 5.0.16 PTR Patch Notes may 26th Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners TL Poll: How do you feel about the 5.0.16 PTR balance changes? TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection
Tourneys
Douyu Cup 2026: $20,000 Legends Event (June 26-28) Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule ! Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) GSL Code S Season 2 (2026)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 529 Opportunities Unleashed Mutation # 528 Infection Detected Welcome to the External Content forum
Brood War
General
Quality of life changes in BW that you will like ? [BSL22] Non-Korean Championship from 13 to 28 June BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ vespene.gg — BW replays in browser The Korean Terminology Thread
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals [BSL22] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CEST Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies Why doesn't anyone use restoration? Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Cricket [SPORT] TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Facing Challenges in Mobile App Development
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Streaming Impacts Game P…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
I'm an arrogant trash talke…
FlaShFTW
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10050 users

[FXO] FXOpen International KOTH #4 - Page 7

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 Next All
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 18:15:02
September 03 2011 18:10 GMT
#121
Seriously. Stephano has won against the best players in the world live, and there's not a huge difference between his games live and his games online. His overlord placement is great and he sees his minimap better than almost anyone else. Is it cheating? I doubt it, since he'd have to be checking the stream every couple seconds to get the reaction time he has. In BW, that kind of map vision was normal for progamers, in Sc2, everyone has lost it, apparently.

On September 04 2011 03:09 redloser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 03:08 frequency wrote:
Ok, White-Ra is missing, SjoW is in game, so sYz will play now. TT1 will replace White-Ra unless he shows up right now!

Game 11 live!

[image loading] [M]Stephano [image loading] sYz



TT1? lol.
To be fair, TT1 has the longest win streak in any FXOpen KOTH with 7 wins, including beating CrunCher and SeleCT. I wouldn't see him beating Stephano either, but he's not the worst player in this KOTH by any stretch.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
September 03 2011 18:13 GMT
#122
(still, he just paused again, "phone, sorry" lol, it's STILL getting annoying :p)
NoiR
Consolidate
Profile Joined February 2010
United States829 Posts
September 03 2011 18:13 GMT
#123
Stephano just paused for the sYz game.

Pretty weird.
Creature posessed the the spirit of inquiry and bloodlust - Adventure Time
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
September 03 2011 18:14 GMT
#124
Haha, they're both cheating!
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 18:15:03
September 03 2011 18:14 GMT
#125
Does anyone know if Stephano is superstitious or something?

Starting to feel like a ritual thing he does lol ><
Vira
Profile Joined November 2010
573 Posts
September 03 2011 18:15 GMT
#126
Stephano pausing on ladder in his own stream , and i am not sure in go look for his stream :D
redloser
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1750 Posts
September 03 2011 18:15 GMT
#127
On September 04 2011 03:10 tree.hugger wrote:
Seriously. Stephano has won against the best players in the world live, and there's not a huge difference between his games live and his games online. His overlord placement is great and he sees his minimap better than almost anyone else. Is it cheating? I doubt it, since he'd have to be checking the stream every couple seconds to get the reaction time he has. In BW, that kind of map vision was normal for progamers, in Sc2, everyone has lost it, apparently.

Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 03:09 redloser wrote:
On September 04 2011 03:08 frequency wrote:
Ok, White-Ra is missing, SjoW is in game, so sYz will play now. TT1 will replace White-Ra unless he shows up right now!

Game 11 live!

[image loading] [M]Stephano <Antiga Shipyard> [image loading] sYz



TT1? lol.
To be fair, TT1 has the longest win streak in any FXOpen KOTH with 7 wins, including beating CrunCher and SeleCT. I don't see him beating Stephano either, but he's not the worst player in this KOTH by any stretch.


I'm not talkin abt his skills, since people can have different opinions... I posted it becuz of his posting at GSL Ro8 LR :/
frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 18:37:00
September 03 2011 18:17 GMT
#128
Will update whose playing and what not in a second :S

Game 11 live!

[image loading] fnaticTT1 <Daybreak> [image loading] sYz
www.twitter.com/marconofrio | marconofrio.tumblr.com
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
September 03 2011 18:18 GMT
#129
On September 04 2011 03:14 Asha` wrote:
Starting to feel like a ritual thing he does lol ><


Ya, I remember him pausing in "offline" events pretty often... Maybe it's just his way of "sleeping" his opponent ^^
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Atrimex
Profile Joined July 2011
193 Posts
September 03 2011 18:21 GMT
#130
On September 04 2011 02:57 koko775 wrote:
Yes, acusing someone of cheating is really harsh and you want people to give facts, but I'm not capable of such things, but maybe there's someone in here (mods or so) who is capable of quickly checking if he was watching the stream or not.

I'm just saying that he was suspected earlier and DIMAGA said it himself, so... I'm just saying. (Yes I know DIMAGA cheated aswell, before someone brings this up, but that was a long time ago).

Here's the interview, jump to 05:55 for the part about Stephano


Dimaga only said, that stephano plays so good that he thought he would maphack, but the games at the LAN proved he is at the same level offline.
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 18:22:36
September 03 2011 18:21 GMT
#131
I don't see why pausing is indicative of stream cheating. Using a second screen for the stream would be much more effective and unsuspicious. He doesn't have to change the stream for every game like streamcheaters on the ladder.

It's not like Stephano isn't able to beat all this players.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12935 Posts
September 03 2011 18:22 GMT
#132
Lol at people thinking Stephano cheat...
He is simply far better than almost every player in the EU scene, and when he is against very good players (such as LucifroN) you can see that he can lose online too.
Btw he has not done "worse" offline because it's offline that he can really display his skills, beating Huk or SEn on lan for example, there aren't enough good players in online cups.
WriterMaru
Kahlgar
Profile Joined June 2011
411 Posts
September 03 2011 18:25 GMT
#133
so given that his level of play online is consistent with his level of play offline, the only thing that supposedly indicates that he is stream cheating is that he pauses everygame?

that seems pretty thin and/or stupid


really enjoying the games regardless
frequency
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1901 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 18:52:24
September 03 2011 18:36 GMT
#134
Ok, SjoW is going to go play in IPL and was busy all today (T_T), so GoOdy will take his spot.

Next game will be...

[image loading] fnaticTT1 <Crevasse> [image loading] ESCGoOdy
www.twitter.com/marconofrio | marconofrio.tumblr.com
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
September 03 2011 18:37 GMT
#135
Fuck yeah Goody fighting! : )
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
Magulina
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden152 Posts
September 03 2011 18:39 GMT
#136
I seriously doubt Stephano is streamcheating, also if you've ever watched his stream you notice that he pauses every game there as well.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
September 03 2011 18:44 GMT
#137
Results still not updated in the OP, annoying...
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 18:50:45
September 03 2011 18:46 GMT
#138
Goody not doing early aggression is so not true. Shows how little they know about Goody, cause he does so many aggressive things from one base, like reaper bunker rushes vs Zerg, 1-1-1 elevator, marine+tank+medivac push vs toss etc and his early game unit control is actually outstanding.
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
September 03 2011 18:50 GMT
#139
LOL Keep on rollin' GoOdy!
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 03 2011 18:51 GMT
#140
On September 04 2011 03:50 Badfatpanda wrote:
LOL Keep on rollin' GoOdy!

not much to roll over anymore
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 42m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 11
League of Legends
Doublelift5480
JimRising 496
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox384
Other Games
summit1g14589
Tefel129
ViBE126
UpATreeSC61
Trikslyr54
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick784
BasetradeTV171
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
9h 42m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
14h 42m
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
18h 42m
Jaystar vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs TerrOr
XuanXuan vs Bonyth
Mihu vs Dewalt
Messiah vs Jaystar
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
TerrOr vs Dewalt
Wardi Open
1d 10h
OSC
1d 23h
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
OSC
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
[ Show More ]
BSL22 NKC (BSL vs China)
6 days
XuanXuan vs Jaystar
Mihu vs Messiah
eOnzErG vs Dewalt
Bonyth vs Jaystar
TerrOr vs Messiah
XuanXuan vs Mihu
eOnzErG vs Jaystar
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - GSB
2026 GSL S2
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
YSL S3
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
SCTL 2026 Spring
Maestros of the Game 2
WardiTV Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Murky Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #2
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1

Upcoming

CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
HSC XXIX
Douyu Cup 2026
Heroes Pulsing #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.