On August 28 2011 19:17 nojok wrote: I don't want to create a topic to ask this and currently it's not live so I ask here : I find the price pool is ridiculously low comparing to the plane ticket for players coming from Europe, Korea or even from a distant place in the USA. Could someone explain me why they're are so many good players? Are fame and advertisement the only reason?
As someone already mentioned, the results from the smaller events are counted towards the final event, which has a $120k prize pool instead of a $14k one. The top 16 ranked players are guaranteed a slot in the RO32 in the winners bracket of the final event. And for a team that does not take a cut of a players prize money, the prize pool is actually secondary, the exposure of the event is the important thing for the sponsor. If you look closer at the players in attendance, you'll realize that there are basically 3-4 teams and the invited koreans there:
And there are still a lot of quality players missing, which is probably mainly because of the structure of the tournament and as you said, the low prize money.
Thorzain, merz, elfi, darkforce, lowely, nerchio, mana, brat_ok, strelok, white_ra, stephano, tod, sarens and cloud are players that I can name of the top of my head that are missing.
Wow, the champ bracket is pretty interesting. First, Drewbie slays a pair strong protoss in his way (HwangSin), and finally lose to incontrol xD Second, TL don't have too much teamkills in the champ bracket (only Sheth and Hero) Third, EG has idra vs huk on a collision course and machine vs incontrol who'll play first today, as in every MLG ^^.
Then, we have the best possible matchups for the pool's winner (2 TvZ instead of 1 TvT 1 ZvZ) That should be a pretty good day of games. Last MLG we had 2 very good first days then the last day was average, this time (imo) we had a good first day, a bad saturday, and we'll have a good sunday.
On August 28 2011 17:48 Odoakar wrote: Can't believe incontrol will most likely be in pool play next MLG, again....0-5, 0-5? Well, I just need to win this one game, and I'm set.
On August 28 2011 17:48 Odoakar wrote: Can't believe incontrol will most likely be in pool play next MLG, again....0-5, 0-5? Well, I just need to win this one game, and I'm set.
Serious? Stays in after 0-5? lol
Yeah the system rewards you based on your finishing position. People in Pool Play are guaranteed top 28, so to stay in the top 12 in terms of MLG points (to stay in Pool Play for the next tournament), you can get away with not performing very well at a number of tournaments before you slip out.
I'm all for having good seeding rewarded, but the current system skews the balance too far in favour of protecting the Pool Play seeds. That's why MLG are changing the system.
On August 28 2011 17:48 Odoakar wrote: Can't believe incontrol will most likely be in pool play next MLG, again....0-5, 0-5? Well, I just need to win this one game, and I'm set.
Serious? Stays in after 0-5? lol
Select was 0-5 and then 1-4 at the last two MLGs and is now a beast.
On August 28 2011 17:48 Odoakar wrote: Can't believe incontrol will most likely be in pool play next MLG, again....0-5, 0-5? Well, I just need to win this one game, and I'm set.
Serious? Stays in after 0-5? lol
In pool play, Incontrol is 1 - 20 and Machine is 5 - 18,, yet they are both playing eachother, and one of them is guaranteed to be TOP 20 and the other, TOP 24.
On August 28 2011 21:22 Spitmode wrote: What happened to Incontrol? 0-5 is really rough
Well he's got a good game sense and SCBW experience but his mechanics are lacking, it's likely that at the beginning he had a nice headstart with general gamesense and BW knowledge but over time his mechanics are falling behind and I guess he's pretty cheesy and people figure those things out
On August 28 2011 19:29 sOda~ wrote: so basically puma and drg are competing for the code S spot?
don't count out idra huk and naniwa lol
HuK has a code S spot already... Naniwa isn't going to beat PuMa or DRG for it.
I'd say Hero has an outside chance, but unfortunately I can't see a foreigner getting past both PuMa and DRG (who are both Top 6 auto) - essentially you'd have to either get really lucky in your brackets or beat both of them. The ones with an outside shot are Naniwa, Select and Kiwi... but Naniwa already lost to Rain so if Rain makes it up (which is a good possibility) then Naniwa is gonna have a tough time already.
On August 28 2011 21:22 Spitmode wrote: What happened to Incontrol? 0-5 is really rough
Is anyone surprised though? InControl is only seeded in to pool play because of stupid rules. He's pretty bad.
The "theory" goes that the pool players are the best, so InControl being the worst pool player (or second worst, Moonan isn't exactly showing flashes of brilliance) is still better than the open bracket players. InControl keeps supporting this theory by beating Choya in the last MLG and Drewbie in this one.
Sure the system is broken, but if players like Drewbie are scratching the edge of making it (back) to pool play, they have to beat players like InControl to do it. And they just aren't.
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