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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
The Touch
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom667 Posts
August 28 2011 11:37 GMT
#10761
On August 28 2011 20:35 andis35 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 20:19 dampv wrote:
On August 28 2011 19:17 nojok wrote:
I don't want to create a topic to ask this and currently it's not live so I ask here : I find the price pool is ridiculously low comparing to the plane ticket for players coming from Europe, Korea or even from a distant place in the USA. Could someone explain me why they're are so many good players? Are fame and advertisement the only reason?


As someone already mentioned, the results from the smaller events are counted towards the final event, which has a $120k prize pool instead of a $14k one. The top 16 ranked players are guaranteed a slot in the RO32 in the winners bracket of the final event. And for a team that does not take a cut of a players prize money, the prize pool is actually secondary, the exposure of the event is the important thing for the sponsor. If you look closer at the players in attendance, you'll realize that there are basically 3-4 teams and the invited koreans there:

EG: idra, puma, huk, incontrol, demuslim, machine etc
Liquid: Jinro, Hero, TLO, Ret, Tyler, Haypro
Dignitas: Naniwa, Select
Fnatic: Rain

And there are still a lot of quality players missing, which is probably mainly because of the structure of the tournament and as you said, the low prize money.

Thorzain, merz, elfi, darkforce, lowely, nerchio, mana, brat_ok, strelok, white_ra, stephano, tod, sarens and cloud are players that I can name of the top of my head that are missing.


you forgot sjow for dignitas


Also Sheth for TL
You Got The Touch
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 11:53:09
August 28 2011 11:50 GMT
#10762
On August 28 2011 20:36 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 20:32 farnham wrote:
what happens if trickster gets the code s spot. he is already code s but only if he survives the up and down

is he going to do the up and down anyways or is his spot in the up and down going to be granted to another person ?

(probably wildcard tournament like always i guess)



well not that i think trickster will make it far this tourney anway but i think at the moment he's code s so he won't get it.

he is in code s but he also is in the up and down so he could loose his position

also i do think trickster could surprise us all

he has shown brilliant play against the koreans DRG and HerO

somehow he did not do so well against the foreigners though (loosing against slush and TLO...)
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 11:59:12
August 28 2011 11:52 GMT
#10763
Wow, the champ bracket is pretty interesting.
First, Drewbie slays a pair strong protoss in his way (HwangSin), and finally lose to incontrol xD
Second, TL don't have too much teamkills in the champ bracket (only Sheth and Hero)
Third, EG has idra vs huk on a collision course and machine vs incontrol who'll play first today, as in every MLG ^^.

Then, we have the best possible matchups for the pool's winner (2 TvZ instead of 1 TvT 1 ZvZ)
That should be a pretty good day of games. Last MLG we had 2 very good first days then the last day was average, this time (imo) we had a good first day, a bad saturday, and we'll have a good sunday.


edit : and Select is a beast
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
August 28 2011 11:53 GMT
#10764
On August 28 2011 17:48 Odoakar wrote:
Can't believe incontrol will most likely be in pool play next MLG, again....0-5, 0-5? Well, I just need to win this one game, and I'm set.

Serious? Stays in after 0-5? lol
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
The Touch
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom667 Posts
August 28 2011 12:02 GMT
#10765
On August 28 2011 20:53 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 17:48 Odoakar wrote:
Can't believe incontrol will most likely be in pool play next MLG, again....0-5, 0-5? Well, I just need to win this one game, and I'm set.

Serious? Stays in after 0-5? lol


Yeah the system rewards you based on your finishing position. People in Pool Play are guaranteed top 28, so to stay in the top 12 in terms of MLG points (to stay in Pool Play for the next tournament), you can get away with not performing very well at a number of tournaments before you slip out.

I'm all for having good seeding rewarded, but the current system skews the balance too far in favour of protecting the Pool Play seeds. That's why MLG are changing the system.
You Got The Touch
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
August 28 2011 12:03 GMT
#10766
On August 28 2011 20:53 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 17:48 Odoakar wrote:
Can't believe incontrol will most likely be in pool play next MLG, again....0-5, 0-5? Well, I just need to win this one game, and I'm set.

Serious? Stays in after 0-5? lol


Select was 0-5 and then 1-4 at the last two MLGs and is now a beast.

The system works both ways.
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
August 28 2011 12:11 GMT
#10767
On August 28 2011 20:53 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 17:48 Odoakar wrote:
Can't believe incontrol will most likely be in pool play next MLG, again....0-5, 0-5? Well, I just need to win this one game, and I'm set.

Serious? Stays in after 0-5? lol


In pool play, Incontrol is 1 - 20 and Machine is 5 - 18,, yet they are both playing eachother, and one of them is guaranteed to be TOP 20 and the other, TOP 24.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
Logo2010
Profile Joined October 2010
509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 12:21:51
August 28 2011 12:21 GMT
#10768
How long till the stream starts up for day 3?
Spitmode
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1510 Posts
August 28 2011 12:22 GMT
#10769
What happened to Incontrol? 0-5 is really rough
"Make house -> Robots come out of house -> Robots shoot lazers -> Someone wins"
poorcloud
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore2748 Posts
August 28 2011 12:36 GMT
#10770
On August 28 2011 21:22 Spitmode wrote:
What happened to Incontrol? 0-5 is really rough


He has been out of his depth for a long long while.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 28 2011 12:39 GMT
#10771
On August 28 2011 21:22 Spitmode wrote:
What happened to Incontrol? 0-5 is really rough

Well he's got a good game sense and SCBW experience but his mechanics are lacking, it's likely that at the beginning he had a nice headstart with general gamesense and BW knowledge but over time his mechanics are falling behind and I guess he's pretty cheesy and people figure those things out
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
common_cider
Profile Joined July 2011
342 Posts
August 28 2011 12:43 GMT
#10772
On August 28 2011 19:29 sOda~ wrote:
so basically puma and drg are competing for the code S spot?

don't count out idra huk and naniwa lol
Never eat at a chinese restraunt located by the pound
Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
August 28 2011 12:45 GMT
#10773
final day incoming <3
Comfort from bottles, cheers from beers the guitars are our weapons and we know how to kill!
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
August 28 2011 12:49 GMT
#10774
On August 28 2011 21:22 Spitmode wrote:
What happened to Incontrol? 0-5 is really rough

Is anyone surprised though? InControl is only seeded in to pool play because of stupid rules. He's pretty bad.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
August 28 2011 12:51 GMT
#10775
On August 28 2011 21:43 common_cider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 19:29 sOda~ wrote:
so basically puma and drg are competing for the code S spot?

don't count out idra huk and naniwa lol


HuK has a code S spot already... Naniwa isn't going to beat PuMa or DRG for it.

I'd say Hero has an outside chance, but unfortunately I can't see a foreigner getting past both PuMa and DRG (who are both Top 6 auto) - essentially you'd have to either get really lucky in your brackets or beat both of them. The ones with an outside shot are Naniwa, Select and Kiwi... but Naniwa already lost to Rain so if Rain makes it up (which is a good possibility) then Naniwa is gonna have a tough time already.
CraZyWayne
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany357 Posts
August 28 2011 12:53 GMT
#10776
Hahaha DeMuslim translates in PuMa interview:




:D ♥
"tahts halo. dont worry"
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
August 28 2011 12:53 GMT
#10777
On August 28 2011 21:49 labbe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 21:22 Spitmode wrote:
What happened to Incontrol? 0-5 is really rough

Is anyone surprised though? InControl is only seeded in to pool play because of stupid rules. He's pretty bad.


The "theory" goes that the pool players are the best, so InControl being the worst pool player (or second worst, Moonan isn't exactly showing flashes of brilliance) is still better than the open bracket players. InControl keeps supporting this theory by beating Choya in the last MLG and Drewbie in this one.

Sure the system is broken, but if players like Drewbie are scratching the edge of making it (back) to pool play, they have to beat players like InControl to do it. And they just aren't.
rareh
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal298 Posts
August 28 2011 12:53 GMT
#10778
On August 28 2011 21:53 CraZyWayne wrote:
Hahaha DeMuslim translates in PuMa interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7Hl7oPKDpQ&feature=feedu


:D ♥


lol so hilarious
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
August 28 2011 13:09 GMT
#10779
Great interview, surprisingly in depth answers by Puma.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
iLikeRain
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark504 Posts
August 28 2011 13:11 GMT
#10780
DeMuslim should translate on stage!
(┛◉Д◉)┛彡┻━┻ OW YEAH!!
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