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clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
August 28 2011 11:08 GMT
#10741
On August 28 2011 19:44 zYwi3c wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 19:38 clusen wrote:
On August 28 2011 19:36 zYwi3c wrote:
Can PuMa get Code A spot ?

No, but he can get a Code S spot. Code A is for foreigners only.


Well i dont get it, Puma isnt in a Korean team, he is practicing with foreigns...
SelecT and Moonan can get Code A spot.

Thats a weird system there

The thing is: the rules are not really clear in that regard.

The reason behind those Code A invites is to lure members of the foreign community to Korea and make them participate in GSL. Select and Moonan both live in the US. It doesn't make sense to give Puma an invite but Ganzi not.

And I highly doubt that Puma is training with foreigners. Playing with lag and training with lesser players is just not as good as playing with a good connection against Koreans, he still lives in Korea afterall. Except the few days between IEM and MLG, where he was in America.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
August 28 2011 11:08 GMT
#10742
On August 28 2011 20:04 Denar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 19:56 chrissummers wrote:
On August 28 2011 19:53 rareh wrote:
On August 28 2011 19:38 clusen wrote:
On August 28 2011 19:36 zYwi3c wrote:
Can PuMa get Code A spot ?

No, but he can get a Code S spot. Code A is for foreigners only.


He can get Code A since he is in a foreign team.


I doubt it. AFAIK the place of residence is the important thing. since puma was always able to take part in code a qualifiers and often did, it would be unfair to grant him something other koreans do not get granted. same goes for hero of course.

select is a totally different story.


Yes, but when GomTV were asked on this matter, their answer was : Korean = member of a Korean pro Team.

So that could mean a Code A spot for PuMa, the one very hard to decide case would be HerO though, as he is TL but at the oGs house with the oGs-TL partnership.

Ask yourself if Jinro could get code A spot then the answer should be the same for HerO regardless.
Both are living and playing in the same situation.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
KroN
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany438 Posts
August 28 2011 11:10 GMT
#10743
Can someone explain to me why DRG is first in his group? 4-1 as Select, then the win/loss should count... same wins as Select, MORE lost as Select...

why isnt Select first? I like DRG, i dont get the system here :D

Thanks
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 28 2011 11:10 GMT
#10744
On August 28 2011 18:48 Ysellian wrote:
DongRaeGu won't get a better shot at Code S then this. If things play right he may very well only have to play TvZs to win this whole thing unless Coca improved his TvZ.


i think his up and down matches might be easier than to play this tourney against coca, bomber and puma....though bomber and coca are alrdy code s so he might only have to take at least 3 if it's bomber vs coca finals, if it's bomber vs puma finals -> he's screwd, well but let's not forget what a beast he's in tvz, the only ones defeating him there so far are mvp and mma afaik
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 11:13:29
August 28 2011 11:11 GMT
#10745
On August 28 2011 20:10 KroN wrote:
Can someone explain to me why DRG is first in his group? 4-1 as Select, then the win/loss should count... same wins as Select, MORE lost as Select...

why isnt Select first? I like DRG, i dont get the system here :D

Thanks

He won against Select 2:0 so apparently direct comparison counts before map score.

@ AsnSensation
He isn't qualified for the up/down matches, is he? Afaik he lost in the ro16.
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 11:12:18
August 28 2011 11:11 GMT
#10746
On August 28 2011 20:10 KroN wrote:
Can someone explain to me why DRG is first in his group? 4-1 as Select, then the win/loss should count... same wins as Select, MORE lost as Select...

why isnt Select first? I like DRG, i dont get the system here :D

Thanks

Cause DRG beat select
EDIT: NINJA'D!
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KroN
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany438 Posts
August 28 2011 11:11 GMT
#10747
On August 28 2011 20:10 KroN wrote:
Can someone explain to me why DRG is first in his group? 4-1 as Select, then the win/loss should count... same wins as Select, MORE lost as Select...

why isnt Select first? I like DRG, i dont get the system here :D

Thanks


Or is it decided off the game between those two? Then its clear to me.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 11:14:00
August 28 2011 11:12 GMT
#10748
On August 28 2011 20:10 KroN wrote:
Can someone explain to me why DRG is first in his group? 4-1 as Select, then the win/loss should count... same wins as Select, MORE lost as Select...

why isnt Select first? I like DRG, i dont get the system here :D

Thanks


Because he beat SeleCT.

On August 28 2011 20:10 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 18:48 Ysellian wrote:
DongRaeGu won't get a better shot at Code S then this. If things play right he may very well only have to play TvZs to win this whole thing unless Coca improved his TvZ.


i think his up and down matches might be easier than to play this tourney against coca, bomber and puma....though bomber and coca are alrdy code s so he might only have to take at least 3 if it's bomber vs coca finals, if it's bomber vs puma finals -> he's screwd, well but let's not forget what a beast he's in tvz, the only ones defeating him there so far are mvp and mma afaik


What up & downs, JYP knocked him out in r16. DRG retained Code A but he has not shot at Code S outside of MLG.

DRG has a great shot since ZvT is his best match up and Bomber's worst. The bad thing for him is that Coca's not as (consistently) good at ZvT as he is at ZvP so Puma's going to be in with a shot too.
KroN
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany438 Posts
August 28 2011 11:12 GMT
#10749
Ok thanks guys
Quintum_
Profile Joined May 2011
United States669 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 11:16:01
August 28 2011 11:15 GMT
#10750
On August 28 2011 20:10 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 18:48 Ysellian wrote:
DongRaeGu won't get a better shot at Code S then this. If things play right he may very well only have to play TvZs to win this whole thing unless Coca improved his TvZ.


i think his up and down matches might be easier than to play this tourney against coca, bomber and puma....though bomber and coca are alrdy code s so he might only have to take at least 3 if it's bomber vs coca finals, if it's bomber vs puma finals -> he's screwd, well but let's not forget what a beast he's in tvz, the only ones defeating him there so far are mvp and mma afaik


I thought DRG went out in the round of 16 in code A, you have to make it to the round of 8 to have a shot at the up and downs right? So this would be his only chance at code S this season.
♠ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ♠ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ♠ (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ ♠
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 28 2011 11:18 GMT
#10751
Oh my bad then, i thought the jyp vs Drg match was ro8 sry^^

now i know why Mr chae "encouraged" him so hard on his twitter^^
dampv
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden83 Posts
August 28 2011 11:19 GMT
#10752
On August 28 2011 19:17 nojok wrote:
I don't want to create a topic to ask this and currently it's not live so I ask here : I find the price pool is ridiculously low comparing to the plane ticket for players coming from Europe, Korea or even from a distant place in the USA. Could someone explain me why they're are so many good players? Are fame and advertisement the only reason?


As someone already mentioned, the results from the smaller events are counted towards the final event, which has a $120k prize pool instead of a $14k one. The top 16 ranked players are guaranteed a slot in the RO32 in the winners bracket of the final event. And for a team that does not take a cut of a players prize money, the prize pool is actually secondary, the exposure of the event is the important thing for the sponsor. If you look closer at the players in attendance, you'll realize that there are basically 3-4 teams and the invited koreans there:

EG: idra, puma, huk, incontrol, demuslim, machine etc
Liquid: Jinro, Hero, TLO, Ret, Tyler, Haypro
Dignitas: Naniwa, Select
Fnatic: Rain

And there are still a lot of quality players missing, which is probably mainly because of the structure of the tournament and as you said, the low prize money.

Thorzain, merz, elfi, darkforce, lowely, nerchio, mana, brat_ok, strelok, white_ra, stephano, tod, sarens and cloud are players that I can name of the top of my head that are missing.
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
August 28 2011 11:19 GMT
#10753
Where can i find the results?
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
August 28 2011 11:19 GMT
#10754
On August 28 2011 20:19 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
Where can i find the results?

www.teamliquid.net/mlg :p
NeWeNiyaLord
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway2474 Posts
August 28 2011 11:20 GMT
#10755
thanks lol. just woke up :p
This is where we begin. Show your true self, Battosai.
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 11:33:07
August 28 2011 11:32 GMT
#10756
what happens if trickster gets the code s spot. he is already code s but only if he survives the up and down

is he going to do the up and down anyways or is his spot in the up and down going to be granted to another person ?

(probably wildcard tournament like always i guess)
Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
August 28 2011 11:34 GMT
#10757
Nani to recieve the code S spot, Nani & HuK in the same group GSL September :D (make it happen <3)
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
andis35
Profile Joined May 2011
Latvia346 Posts
August 28 2011 11:35 GMT
#10758
On August 28 2011 20:19 dampv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 19:17 nojok wrote:
I don't want to create a topic to ask this and currently it's not live so I ask here : I find the price pool is ridiculously low comparing to the plane ticket for players coming from Europe, Korea or even from a distant place in the USA. Could someone explain me why they're are so many good players? Are fame and advertisement the only reason?


As someone already mentioned, the results from the smaller events are counted towards the final event, which has a $120k prize pool instead of a $14k one. The top 16 ranked players are guaranteed a slot in the RO32 in the winners bracket of the final event. And for a team that does not take a cut of a players prize money, the prize pool is actually secondary, the exposure of the event is the important thing for the sponsor. If you look closer at the players in attendance, you'll realize that there are basically 3-4 teams and the invited koreans there:

EG: idra, puma, huk, incontrol, demuslim, machine etc
Liquid: Jinro, Hero, TLO, Ret, Tyler, Haypro
Dignitas: Naniwa, Select
Fnatic: Rain

And there are still a lot of quality players missing, which is probably mainly because of the structure of the tournament and as you said, the low prize money.

Thorzain, merz, elfi, darkforce, lowely, nerchio, mana, brat_ok, strelok, white_ra, stephano, tod, sarens and cloud are players that I can name of the top of my head that are missing.


you forgot sjow for dignitas
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 28 2011 11:36 GMT
#10759
On August 28 2011 20:32 farnham wrote:
what happens if trickster gets the code s spot. he is already code s but only if he survives the up and down

is he going to do the up and down anyways or is his spot in the up and down going to be granted to another person ?

(probably wildcard tournament like always i guess)



well not that i think trickster will make it far this tourney anway but i think at the moment he's code s so he won't get it.
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
August 28 2011 11:37 GMT
#10760
On August 28 2011 20:35 andis35 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 20:19 dampv wrote:
On August 28 2011 19:17 nojok wrote:
I don't want to create a topic to ask this and currently it's not live so I ask here : I find the price pool is ridiculously low comparing to the plane ticket for players coming from Europe, Korea or even from a distant place in the USA. Could someone explain me why they're are so many good players? Are fame and advertisement the only reason?


As someone already mentioned, the results from the smaller events are counted towards the final event, which has a $120k prize pool instead of a $14k one. The top 16 ranked players are guaranteed a slot in the RO32 in the winners bracket of the final event. And for a team that does not take a cut of a players prize money, the prize pool is actually secondary, the exposure of the event is the important thing for the sponsor. If you look closer at the players in attendance, you'll realize that there are basically 3-4 teams and the invited koreans there:

EG: idra, puma, huk, incontrol, demuslim, machine etc
Liquid: Jinro, Hero, TLO, Ret, Tyler, Haypro
Dignitas: Naniwa, Select
Fnatic: Rain

And there are still a lot of quality players missing, which is probably mainly because of the structure of the tournament and as you said, the low prize money.

Thorzain, merz, elfi, darkforce, lowely, nerchio, mana, brat_ok, strelok, white_ra, stephano, tod, sarens and cloud are players that I can name of the top of my head that are missing.


you forgot sjow for dignitas

we can as well add Tarson, NightEnd and plenty of others we can't think of now. Oh yeah, Socke. Also, are chinese players counted as *foreigners*?
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