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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
nOondn
Profile Joined March 2011
564 Posts
August 27 2011 21:13 GMT
#5161
Hypro very good @ creep spread O_o
Mid Master Terran @ kr server fighting !!!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45328 Posts
August 27 2011 21:13 GMT
#5162
On August 28 2011 06:12 blade55555 wrote:
haypro never going to take a third?


Probably been playing with Destiny.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
August 27 2011 21:13 GMT
#5163
Field of creep tumors covering half the map... ._.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 27 2011 21:13 GMT
#5164
Hay is a Pro creeper.
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
August 27 2011 21:13 GMT
#5165
On August 28 2011 06:12 Jyvblamo wrote:
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On August 28 2011 06:12 Mouzone wrote:
Hayder Hayder Hayder. Hayder? Hayder!

Hayders gonna hayde.


Indeed he is. Indeed. He. Is.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
August 27 2011 21:13 GMT
#5166
On August 28 2011 06:09 Serpico wrote:
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On August 28 2011 06:08 sharktopus. wrote:
The problem for EG is that their practice consists of ladder matches on the NA server all day. Regardless of if they are in GM or Masters, they are still laddering on the NA server, which in no way prepares them to show up at a tournament and post results against top Koreans and Europeans.

There is a reason why HuK, who continues to live and practice in Korea, is the only one posting fairly strong results.

Having a team house in the US did nothing but put them all under the same roof.

uhhh, practicing against each other from time to time helps a bit too.


Not really. IdrA, puma, huk, and demuslim can practice with each other, that's about it.

NesTea has MVP (who is better at TvZ than him), and any protoss in korea he wants to practice with, as well as the entire GM ladder in korea, where every single player on it is a pro-gamer.
Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
August 27 2011 21:13 GMT
#5167
No cancel. ;_;
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
August 27 2011 21:13 GMT
#5168
bomber kills off haypros hatch at the gold
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
August 27 2011 21:13 GMT
#5169
Haypro.............
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
August 27 2011 21:14 GMT
#5170
Haha Haypro always loses his hatches and never cancels . Seen it so often now.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
August 27 2011 21:14 GMT
#5171
no cancel on the hatch? ouch
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 21:14:49
August 27 2011 21:14 GMT
#5172
On August 28 2011 06:06 TT1 wrote:
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On August 28 2011 06:02 Orome wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:58 TT1 wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:56 Asha` wrote:
On August 28 2011 05:55 TT1 wrote:
im kinda intrigued in getting ur opinions on who u think the better player is between ret and nada, nada did beat ret yesterday

Poll: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

Nada (74)
 
65%

Ret (40)
 
35%

114 total votes

Your vote: Better Player, Ret or NaDa?

(Vote): Ret
(Vote): Nada





Nada...for now.

So unconvincing lately, but still good enough to be considered all round stronger than Ret.


u sure? from wat i saw yesterday id give ret a 60-40 edge(skillwise)


I think all these skill comparisons are still way too shaky and volatile right now to make much sense. Ret was looking relatively mediocre for quite a while until he absolutely tore through the EU invitational, while Nada was looking extremely strong and a real contender for Code S until he got abolutely dismantled by Byun last season. Right now I would give a small edge to Ret, but that might very well change again soon.


i shit u not all the progamees predicted that ret would crush the blizzard eu before it happened, that was based off of his ingame skill that we saw from him in practice games and such.. we didnt base our decision off of tournaments results(if we used that logic than naniwa should have been the favorite)


So what do you think determines those tournament results? Luck? Maybe once in a while a player will over-perform or under-perform, but over time, you get a pretty accurate view of who's performing consistently. You can't make a serious argument about Ret being better than Nada when Nada is clearly performing consistently well in the most competitive league in the world. That's not to say that Ret wouldn't be able to take a series off Nada, but he just doesn't have the results that would suggest that he is better yet.

Talking about "in-game skill" is pretty much the same as saying "my opinion based on absolutely nothing concrete" since there's no direct way to measure it. Also, you can have all of the "in-game skill" in the world, but if that's not translating into wins in those tournaments, then it's still meaningless.
Sithelin123
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada168 Posts
August 27 2011 21:14 GMT
#5173
Haypro being wrecked. No surprise though
The Touch
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom667 Posts
August 27 2011 21:14 GMT
#5174
Haypr0, less creep spread, more NOT LETTING YOUR EXPO DIE!
You Got The Touch
diverzee
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden992 Posts
August 27 2011 21:14 GMT
#5175
The observer cam seems zoomed in, and it makes it hard to follow. Or am I wrong? Is it zoomed out?
Parting
rdj107
Profile Joined December 2010
United States336 Posts
August 27 2011 21:14 GMT
#5176
2 bases, 4 queens; if his creep wasn't astounding I'd be yelling at haypro through my screen right now.
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
August 27 2011 21:14 GMT
#5177
Haypro always forgets to cancel hatcheries under attack. Always.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
August 27 2011 21:14 GMT
#5178
haypro you're banking 1k........get some more hatches bro
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 27 2011 21:14 GMT
#5179
On August 28 2011 06:12 sharktopus. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 06:09 Serpico wrote:
On August 28 2011 06:08 sharktopus. wrote:
The problem for EG is that their practice consists of ladder matches on the NA server all day. Regardless of if they are in GM or Masters, they are still laddering on the NA server, which in no way prepares them to show up at a tournament and post results against top Koreans and Europeans.

There is a reason why HuK, who continues to live and practice in Korea, is the only one posting fairly strong results.

Having a team house in the US did nothing but put them all under the same roof.

uhhh, practicing against each other from time to time helps a bit too.


I agree that teammates practicing against one another can be beneficial, like in the TL-oGs house. EG practicing against each other clearly isn't preparing them for these tournaments. I am not singling out a single player on EG to criticize, I'm just saying that as a whole, their SC2 team needs a lot of work.

They have been in the house for a total of 3 weeks dude. Way too soon to say the house is pointless.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 27 2011 21:14 GMT
#5180
Still not noticing the zoom ...
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
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