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Obligatory public note for all large tournament threads:

The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance.

It is in no way complete. Keep in mind that there's a difference between pointing out that the SC2 and CoD streams were switched and whining about it (same thing on pointing out/asking about stream lag and whining about it, etc.). Also, just because you post something and aren't immediately banned for it doesn't mean you won't get caught. We'll be going through this thread very carefully.

That being said, enjoy today's games!

Time stamp: page 38, 6:23.
RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
August 27 2011 13:22 GMT
#9921
Nade vs Kiwikaki games were sick.
Zeroxk
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway1244 Posts
August 27 2011 13:24 GMT
#9922
On August 27 2011 21:10 Corsica wrote:
Who else here thinks that MLG should bring only top code A players. Coca was top 8 not so long ago, so we will see korean damnation again. We should equalize the competition. Only Code A playas.

Well DRG is Code A...
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
August 27 2011 13:32 GMT
#9923
can you access the interviews anywhere?
England will fight to the last American
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
August 27 2011 13:37 GMT
#9924
On August 27 2011 22:09 TBO wrote:
Does anyone knows how Extended Series works with "did not shows"?

In the MLG game list, the result is 0-0 not 2-0...


It's a 2-0 lead in the extended series which is absolutely fucking retarded, this happened with White-ra but his opponent suicided twice to make it an even series.

It's completely idiotic that you can get a lead over a player you never faced, if your opponent is a no-show your advantage is getting a Bye and not having to play the series to advance, the extended series rule is meant to maintain fairness so someone doesn't advance over someone else without having a better head-to-head record against them, but if they never fucking played then they should start at 0-0.
gerundium
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands786 Posts
August 27 2011 13:45 GMT
#9925
On August 27 2011 22:37 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 22:09 TBO wrote:
Does anyone knows how Extended Series works with "did not shows"?

In the MLG game list, the result is 0-0 not 2-0...


It's a 2-0 lead in the extended series which is absolutely fucking retarded, this happened with White-ra but his opponent suicided twice to make it an even series.

It's completely idiotic that you can get a lead over a player you never faced, if your opponent is a no-show your advantage is getting a Bye and not having to play the series to advance, the extended series rule is meant to maintain fairness so someone doesn't advance over someone else without having a better head-to-head record against them, but if they never fucking played then they should start at 0-0.


this opens up a huge loophole and i'm amazed you don't see it. if i am going up against an opponent i win against a very small percentage of the time it's possibly in my advantage to be a no-show and get a level playing field against him later on instead of facing him. now that's idiotic.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
August 27 2011 13:48 GMT
#9926
On August 27 2011 22:45 gerundium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 22:37 Mordiford wrote:
On August 27 2011 22:09 TBO wrote:
Does anyone knows how Extended Series works with "did not shows"?

In the MLG game list, the result is 0-0 not 2-0...


It's a 2-0 lead in the extended series which is absolutely fucking retarded, this happened with White-ra but his opponent suicided twice to make it an even series.

It's completely idiotic that you can get a lead over a player you never faced, if your opponent is a no-show your advantage is getting a Bye and not having to play the series to advance, the extended series rule is meant to maintain fairness so someone doesn't advance over someone else without having a better head-to-head record against them, but if they never fucking played then they should start at 0-0.


this opens up a huge loophole and i'm amazed you don't see it. if i am going up against an opponent i win against a very small percentage of the time it's possibly in my advantage to be a no-show and get a level playing field against him later on instead of facing him. now that's idiotic.


You have to play a ton more games if you lose, you'd have to go through a large number of players for avoiding one and in the current system, you would entirely miss pool play when going through the open bracket. On top of that, you'd still have to face them later(in your given example) so you aren't avoiding anything.

I can't think of a single situation where intentionally no-showing would be worth it.
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
August 27 2011 14:05 GMT
#9927
On August 27 2011 22:24 Zeroxk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 21:10 Corsica wrote:
Who else here thinks that MLG should bring only top code A players. Coca was top 8 not so long ago, so we will see korean damnation again. We should equalize the competition. Only Code A playas.

Well DRG is Code A...


Purposefully bring worse players? Yup I sure hope so. I know people in LA were begging to have NJ Nets games aired instead of the Lakers...
We talkin about PRACTICE
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
August 27 2011 14:06 GMT
#9928
On August 27 2011 22:45 gerundium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 22:37 Mordiford wrote:
On August 27 2011 22:09 TBO wrote:
Does anyone knows how Extended Series works with "did not shows"?

In the MLG game list, the result is 0-0 not 2-0...


It's a 2-0 lead in the extended series which is absolutely fucking retarded, this happened with White-ra but his opponent suicided twice to make it an even series.

It's completely idiotic that you can get a lead over a player you never faced, if your opponent is a no-show your advantage is getting a Bye and not having to play the series to advance, the extended series rule is meant to maintain fairness so someone doesn't advance over someone else without having a better head-to-head record against them, but if they never fucking played then they should start at 0-0.


this opens up a huge loophole and i'm amazed you don't see it. if i am going up against an opponent i win against a very small percentage of the time it's possibly in my advantage to be a no-show and get a level playing field against him later on instead of facing him. now that's idiotic.


you're really trying too hard
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
August 27 2011 14:16 GMT
#9929
On August 27 2011 22:45 gerundium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 22:37 Mordiford wrote:
On August 27 2011 22:09 TBO wrote:
Does anyone knows how Extended Series works with "did not shows"?

In the MLG game list, the result is 0-0 not 2-0...


It's a 2-0 lead in the extended series which is absolutely fucking retarded, this happened with White-ra but his opponent suicided twice to make it an even series.

It's completely idiotic that you can get a lead over a player you never faced, if your opponent is a no-show your advantage is getting a Bye and not having to play the series to advance, the extended series rule is meant to maintain fairness so someone doesn't advance over someone else without having a better head-to-head record against them, but if they never fucking played then they should start at 0-0.


this opens up a huge loophole and i'm amazed you don't see it. if i am going up against an opponent i win against a very small percentage of the time it's possibly in my advantage to be a no-show and get a level playing field against him later on instead of facing him. now that's idiotic.

If you just play them you play him, and then some opponents in winner's.
If you throw the game you play a ton of opponents in losers and then him, possibly with a handicap if he won winner's. How is that an advantage?
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
August 27 2011 14:17 GMT
#9930
On August 27 2011 21:10 Corsica wrote:
Who else here thinks that MLG should bring only top code A players. Coca was top 8 not so long ago, so we will see korean damnation again. We should equalize the competition. Only Code A playas.

If you want to watch Code A caliber players, go watch Code A (I'm doing it as well from time to time). But at MLG, I want the bests, because... well... who the hell doesn't want to want the bests? I don't care if they are dominating and/or constantly reach top 6. MLG is a high-level StarCraft II competiotion, not some "try to make foreigners look good" act.

Terrible suggestion.
drcatellino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada346 Posts
August 27 2011 14:20 GMT
#9931
So proud of Kiwi. Quebec fighting !
quote unquote
Rhedsa
Profile Joined July 2011
Costa Rica594 Posts
August 27 2011 14:20 GMT
#9932
I didn't find the match between TLO vs Trickster Day9 mentioned yesterday night. They should have casted it, but i guess it never came on the stream?!
iNbluE
Profile Joined January 2011
Switzerland674 Posts
August 27 2011 14:20 GMT
#9933
Is it possible to find VODs from the first day already?
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 14:23:30
August 27 2011 14:23 GMT
#9934
On August 27 2011 23:20 iNbluE wrote:
Is it possible to find VODs from the first day already?

Maybe the thing where you can scroll the stream back if you had it up in running? Not sure how people are just now watching games from yesterday. I'm interested in knowing if that's possible while I wait for the stream to start
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Rhedsa
Profile Joined July 2011
Costa Rica594 Posts
August 27 2011 14:25 GMT
#9935
MLG still has the restream from yesterday running. You can just skip in time to find the matches.
Thezzphai
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1145 Posts
August 27 2011 14:54 GMT
#9936
On August 27 2011 23:17 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 21:10 Corsica wrote:
Who else here thinks that MLG should bring only top code A players. Coca was top 8 not so long ago, so we will see korean damnation again. We should equalize the competition. Only Code A playas.

If you want to watch Code A caliber players, go watch Code A (I'm doing it as well from time to time). But at MLG, I want the bests, because... well... who the hell doesn't want to want the bests? I don't care if they are dominating and/or constantly reach top 6. MLG is a high-level StarCraft II competiotion, not some "try to make foreigners look good" act.

Terrible suggestion.

To kind of equalize the competition I think more top European players should consider coming to MLG. No offense to the other players of course but it seems like there's a lack of European players especially this MLG. Mouz should really consider sending someone, I'd love to see MaNa and MorroW there and iirc MorroW has been at an MLG before.
futsel
Profile Joined August 2006
163 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-27 15:03:02
August 27 2011 14:57 GMT
#9937
great day
too bad I've missed NaDa vs Ret games
it's all a joke
KaRath_
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia245 Posts
August 27 2011 14:58 GMT
#9938
Just have to say this, thank you very much for posting the LR thread. Although the chances of you reading this is slight, thank you for the time taken for doing this <3
I wasted my nights, you turned out the lights, now I'm paralysed, still stuck in that time...
DeG3n
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany130 Posts
August 27 2011 15:00 GMT
#9939
On August 27 2011 23:54 Thezzphai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 23:17 Volband wrote:
On August 27 2011 21:10 Corsica wrote:
Who else here thinks that MLG should bring only top code A players. Coca was top 8 not so long ago, so we will see korean damnation again. We should equalize the competition. Only Code A playas.

If you want to watch Code A caliber players, go watch Code A (I'm doing it as well from time to time). But at MLG, I want the bests, because... well... who the hell doesn't want to want the bests? I don't care if they are dominating and/or constantly reach top 6. MLG is a high-level StarCraft II competiotion, not some "try to make foreigners look good" act.

Terrible suggestion.

To kind of equalize the competition I think more top European players should consider coming to MLG. No offense to the other players of course but it seems like there's a lack of European players especially this MLG. Mouz should really consider sending someone, I'd love to see MaNa and MorroW there and iirc MorroW has been at an MLG before.


I think so too, but I also think that sending a player to MLG wouldn't be really worth it, beacuse nobody can really deliver truely great results after fighting through the open bracket. MLG's system just causes more and more koreans participating, while the good foreigners, who aren't already seeded into poolplay, keep avoiding traveling to MLG.
This results to a lack of represantation of the european scene.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9031 Posts
August 27 2011 15:24 GMT
#9940
MC's teammate right there.
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