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Obligatory public note for all large tournament threads:

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1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance.

It is in no way complete. Keep in mind that there's a difference between pointing out that the SC2 and CoD streams were switched and whining about it (same thing on pointing out/asking about stream lag and whining about it, etc.). Also, just because you post something and aren't immediately banned for it doesn't mean you won't get caught. We'll be going through this thread very carefully.

That being said, enjoy today's games!

Time stamp: page 38, 6:23.
AnxiousHippo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia1451 Posts
August 26 2011 23:57 GMT
#5281
Trickster makes a stargate, DRG already has an evo. DRG even scouts the void ray coming.
An apple a day keeps the Protoss away | TLHF
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 26 2011 23:57 GMT
#5282
On August 27 2011 08:56 ZaaaaaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 08:54 snafoo wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:53 ZaaaaaM wrote:
Why did DRG bother getting zergling speed on shakuras? absolutely useless unless trickster would have 4gated lol?


.... i think you just answered your own question...

what, you really think 4gate is an option at that lvl? I can even stop a 4gate nowadays without zergling speed and im just diamond


speed gives map control. how is that a bad thing?
Cyrak
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada536 Posts
August 26 2011 23:57 GMT
#5283
I can't figure out if Tasteless knows who DRG is, lol.
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
August 26 2011 23:57 GMT
#5284
On August 27 2011 08:54 IPA wrote:
I was at Anaheim and I feel we were much, much louder. Maybe they're just not capturing the true wall of sound? Those sound like some pathetic cheers for the players. :/


to be fair though I'm sure Anaheim live was loud as hell, MLG has good silencer so its not as loud as you would think when you watch it from their stream.

Youtube a recorded anaheim cheer and compare it to the VOD from anaheim, you'll see the difference.

Definitely look like alot less people at Raleigh, but probably just everyone watching it from home instead of risking the hurricane
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 26 2011 23:57 GMT
#5285
On August 27 2011 08:57 Drazerk wrote:
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On August 27 2011 08:53 Drazerk wrote:
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On August 27 2011 08:52 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

1:00

Pylon down at the ramp


2:10

Pool + gas for DRG


2:30

Forge on the way for Trickster


3:00

Nexus on the way for Trickster


3:40

Ling speed + expansion for DRG


4:10

Double gas for trickster


5:00

Core for trickster


5:30

+1 for trickster


6:40

Three gates + stargate for Trickster


7:20

Armour +1 for DRG


7:40

Void ray for Trickster

Third for DRG
arQ
Profile Joined October 2010
1033 Posts
August 26 2011 23:58 GMT
#5286
Hmm I guess I know this from earlier MLGs but it still strikes me as so odd that fans can get sooo close to players even when they are playing a match (looking at the blue stream atm). Is there any security at all there? I mean this game is growing, gotta start treating the stars like proper stars soon I guess.
"The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human ambition." -Carl Sagan || Flash || Mvp || Naniwa ||
Dumboprime
Profile Joined March 2011
985 Posts
August 26 2011 23:58 GMT
#5287
On August 27 2011 08:56 RykuX wrote:
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On August 27 2011 08:55 nebiki wrote:
DongRaeGu sounds so nice, why do people keep saying DRG? writing it is fine, but saying it out loud is so bad compared to the original.


Artosis says EYE Dra to, but what can yeah do?! oh well! :D

artosis blames it on that when he first read IdrA he decided it should be pronounced like that and now he wont change his mind
Beardedclam
Profile Joined September 2010
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 23:59:17
August 26 2011 23:58 GMT
#5288
On August 27 2011 08:56 ZaaaaaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 08:54 snafoo wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:53 ZaaaaaM wrote:
Why did DRG bother getting zergling speed on shakuras? absolutely useless unless trickster would have 4gated lol?


.... i think you just answered your own question...

what, you really think 4gate is an option at that lvl? I can even stop a 4gate nowadays without zergling speed and im just diamond



Genius almost took out Losria with a 4gate recently but Losira fell back into his main. Then Genius teched up to Void ray + 1 air attack with zealots and rolled him.
"bye bye" - genius "#$@% you" - Idra------------|Genius|DRG|Keen|---------Breakfast.213
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10000 Posts
August 26 2011 23:58 GMT
#5289
more 2base all or nothing gimmicks incoming..
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
August 26 2011 23:58 GMT
#5290
On August 27 2011 08:56 MrDudeMan wrote:
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On August 27 2011 08:51 DertoQq wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:49 UnKooL wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:49 Sithelin123 wrote:
This is why DRG's PvZ is bad. He still uses hydras.


He had to get hydras out to defend against the void rays.


a few infestors would have done the job, and it would also have work very well vs zealots

it takes like 4 fungals to kill one void.



Yes but it also takes 4 fungals to kill 6 voidrays. Hydras are too slow and too weak to go against this composition. The voidrays attacking DRG's main was genius because it takes the hydras too long to go from the main to the center of the map, thus DRG had to commit to one. Also the mass zealot into HT/Archons was also smart because hydras get eaten up by storm and zealots, and zerglings get eaten up by archons. If DRG went roach/infestor, he could have killed the 6 void rays right away as well as fair very well against the zealots and archons.


+ infestated terrans, they kill void ray so so fast.
"i've made some empty promises in my life, but hands down that was the most generous" - Michael Scott
nebiki
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany69 Posts
August 26 2011 23:58 GMT
#5291
On August 27 2011 08:57 coolyou wrote:
tasteless is high as usual


was huk high, too?
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 26 2011 23:58 GMT
#5292
On August 27 2011 08:57 Drazerk wrote:
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On August 27 2011 08:54 Drazerk wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:53 Drazerk wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:53 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

2:10

Pool + gas for DRG


2:30

Forge on the way for Trickster


3:00

Nexus on the way for Trickster


3:40

Ling speed + expansion for DRG


4:10

Double gas for trickster


5:00

Core for trickster


5:30

+1 for trickster


6:40

Three gates + stargate for Trickster


7:20

Armour +1 for DRG


7:40

Void ray for Trickster

Third for DRG


9:00

Attack on the way for trickster
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 26 2011 23:58 GMT
#5293
Hey guys,

if anyone has serious internet problems - rewind just a little bit backwards. As long as the stream runs 10-30 seconds behind, it gets enough time to buffer, and you can watch without lag.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
August 26 2011 23:58 GMT
#5294
On August 27 2011 08:57 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 08:54 IPA wrote:
I was at Anaheim and I feel we were much, much louder. Maybe they're just not capturing the true wall of sound? Those sound like some pathetic cheers for the players. :/


to be fair though I'm sure Anaheim live was loud as hell, MLG has good silencer so its not as loud as you would think when you watch it from their stream.

Youtube a recorded anaheim cheer and compare it to the VOD from anaheim, you'll see the difference.

Definitely look like alot less people at Raleigh, but probably just everyone watching it from home instead of risking the hurricane


Yeah props to the people who risked it. Hope we see more signs though, and not just ones that ruin esports.
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
MonsieurGrimm
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada2441 Posts
August 26 2011 23:58 GMT
#5295
On August 27 2011 08:57 Telcontar wrote:
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On August 27 2011 08:55 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:52 Telcontar wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:51 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:49 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:49 Sithelin123 wrote:
This is why DRG's PvZ is bad. He still uses hydras.


Well he kinda had to?

mutas or infestors would have been better. hydras are kind of crap

Mutas? When you know the protoss has at least 2 stargates? No. Infestors? Maybe, but it would take too long to tech to, and you need a fair amount of them with enough energy to combat so many voids.

mutas with a couple corruptors thrown in to zone isn't awful, it's a better option than hydras -______- the only reason you would have hydras in your army is to deal with air but they can't chase down air, don't do a lot of burst damage, and they become useless supply when your enemy gets AoE.

Unless trickster loses a fair amount of his intial voids, a 2 stargate phoenix/void combo vs a later spire muta/corrupter wouldn't have been even close. He had to do something to survive quickly, and hydras were the only viable option.

you're probably right :/ he just got too many. like I said, they're JUST a defensive response, you don't want any more of them than you need.
"60% of the time, it works - every time" - Brian Fantana on Double Reactors All The Way // "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt
AnxiousHippo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia1451 Posts
August 26 2011 23:58 GMT
#5296
+1 zealots die to DRG's massed zerglings. Trickster's void ray is forced to retreat.
An apple a day keeps the Protoss away | TLHF
CakeMaster
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada65 Posts
August 26 2011 23:58 GMT
#5297
For the last two game times you have the endings set for PDT.
EG.HuK Fighting!
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
August 26 2011 23:58 GMT
#5298
It's called Barcraft, Tasteless.
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
August 26 2011 23:58 GMT
#5299
BEERCraft HAHA
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 26 2011 23:59 GMT
#5300
On August 27 2011 08:58 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2011 08:57 Drazerk wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:57 Drazerk wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:57 Drazerk wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:56 Drazerk wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:55 Drazerk wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:55 Drazerk wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:54 Drazerk wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:54 Drazerk wrote:
On August 27 2011 08:53 Drazerk wrote:
[quote]

2:30

Forge on the way for Trickster


3:00

Nexus on the way for Trickster


3:40

Ling speed + expansion for DRG


4:10

Double gas for trickster


5:00

Core for trickster


5:30

+1 for trickster


6:40

Three gates + stargate for Trickster


7:20

Armour +1 for DRG


7:40

Void ray for Trickster

Third for DRG


9:00

Attack on the way for trickster


9:20

DRG repels the attack
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