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Nice, Polt!
He is really good at analyze the opponent and counter it perfectly! Also, he sent the message through 2 previous games like "The only build what I prepared for today is Banshee harass and Marine+Maurauder+Tank composition"
And at last, Polt finally tricks MMA and do the heavy-mech play, opposite style of previous games.
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Nah, people just don't root for Polt because he has less emotional victories, but more solid plays and non-close games.
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A PINK so teeny
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On August 23 2011 19:26 Ryncol wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 19:25 Sabu113 wrote:On August 23 2011 19:22 Akhee wrote:On August 23 2011 19:21 Nayl wrote: TL hates Polt for absolutely no reason. Koreans already admit him to be one of the top players especially TvP. he IS the best TvP in the world. Bomber has a nice lategame tvp but overall polt is still better How does he have the best TvP? Honestly, what decent terran worth mentioning doesn't have a strong winning record vP? His mechanics are subpar so just on that note I doubt he TvP is thebest. Mvp is comparatively bad vs P. So is MMA.
60% vs 40%
not comparable
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On August 23 2011 19:26 Nayl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 19:24 Cassel_Castle wrote:On August 23 2011 19:23 ragnorr wrote:On August 23 2011 19:22 hugman wrote: lol the Polt hate around here is so strange Super tournement all over again. I remember when he beat people like losira etc. It was just cause his opponents played bad. Funny thing is that Polt said the exact same thing about Jinro. Well, Jinro hasn't really performed, where as Polt has consistent results throughout the season.
Jinro did beat Polt right after he said that though IIRC
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On August 23 2011 19:21 Nayl wrote: How does he have the best TvP? Honestly, what decent terran worth mentioning doesn't have a strong winning record vP?
MVP anyone? Loses to Adelscott, Alicia, and Genius, none of whom are exactly the best Protoss in the world. I'd put Polt's TvP above MVP's.
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On August 23 2011 19:25 Rarak wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 19:05 Koshi wrote:On August 23 2011 19:04 HolyArrow wrote: Bomber creams every Terran, even MVP. Except Byun, but that series was the most confusing shift I've ever seen. Puma is probably even better than Bomber in TvT. Based on what? Puma is good no doubt but Bomber has the best TvT in the world.. I wouldn't even say Puma is top5 TvT. MVP would like to have a word with you regarding best TvT.
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I just read an article in the Wall Street Journal (on the front page) about pro Sc2!!!
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Why does MMA play so wrong against Polt. He plays two games in a row like a mech vs mech game. Pushing out to secure early bases with hellions and late tanks, first getting rolled by a allin, then in the 2nd game he lost a bunch if battles trying to secure a fast 3rd with a tank like set up as if it was mech. Those low tank numbers are what marauders can smash. 3rd game he tried to hard counter Polts style with mass marine, and Polt somehow decides to go mech at the only time that mattered. MMA lost game three before it even started going marine tank, which mech roflstomps 19 out of 20 games. MMA has amazing mech vs mech, the 3rd game was the one game he absolutely needed to go mech but he tried to meta game Polt. His vs Polt decision making and strategies are literally the only strats he does that make no sense to me. All other matchups, all other opponents, I get his decisions, I get his strategies, but he plays entirely wrong vs how Polt plays.
Mech with fast tanks and delayed blue flame, with vikings and some banshee harass into 2 base turtle to 200 supply and pushing out to take a 3rd is what he should have done IMO. If you do that Polt has no chance. Hellions actually suck at holding off early pushes, where as tanks are great at it. I am so frustrated at that serious, like MMA is facing some weird alien race and doesn't know what to do against it. BAH! :'(
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On August 23 2011 19:26 Nayl wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 19:24 Cassel_Castle wrote:On August 23 2011 19:23 ragnorr wrote:On August 23 2011 19:22 hugman wrote: lol the Polt hate around here is so strange Super tournement all over again. I remember when he beat people like losira etc. It was just cause his opponents played bad. Funny thing is that Polt said the exact same thing about Jinro. Well, Jinro hasn't really performed, where as Polt has consistent results throughout the season.
This was way back when Jinro was a beast and polt was still a dingleberry on the ass of code S. Funny thing is Jinro owned the crap after him that same gel.
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On August 23 2011 19:23 TimeFlighT wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 19:22 JonnyLaw wrote:On August 23 2011 19:18 BFD wrote:Now that this is over, I wish everyone would go back and read the posts in the liquibet thread. http://www.teamliquid.net/liquibet2/betcomments.php?liquibet=176Give Polt the credit he deserves. He wins because he's better. He has better timing, he has better reactions, he has better multitasking, and he has great mindgames as evidenced by this last game. His 4-0 win against MMA wasn't a fluke, and, as a reminder, it was kinda in the finals of a gigantic tournament with the best players around. Haters probably gonna hate some more, but at least give him some credit for winning. Stop saying it's MMA who played badly therefore lost, or making up some excuses. Polt played better, he won. As usual. Period.  He makes mech. Mech is good. Mech is very good vs bio. So please enlighten us how Polt won game 1 today vs MMA where Polt went Marine heavy. Polt won game 1.
there was alot of build order countering imo. MMA went for a FE and got attacked before siege tanks were out. It was basically an all in from polt. when MMA went for marines he did an FE before it and polt had the time to actually build up an army.
the later the timing attack the better it is for mech. polt just gosu in deciding which builds to use i think
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People don't like him because none of his games are particularly impressive and filled with mistakes. The "he won he's the better overall player" mentality is pretty stupid.
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On August 23 2011 19:26 Kraznaya wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 19:24 Spitfire wrote:On August 23 2011 19:18 Nayl wrote:On August 23 2011 19:15 Serpico wrote:On August 23 2011 19:15 Govou wrote:On August 23 2011 19:13 Serpico wrote:On August 23 2011 19:12 Govou wrote: don't you just love seeing haters eat their words? nope, worse player winning. you are a perfect example of what i said not really, MMA is the better overall player. Just how it is. lol I love this foreigner bias for MMA after MLG columbus. No MMA is not a better overall player, Polt knows how to study and play against specific opponents. Thats what I dont like about Polt, he prepares 'sniping' builds, I dont feel like he could beat MMA, who I believe is a better player, in a straight up macro game. Got lucky in the last set, no way he could've known MMA was gonna suddenly switch to Marine-Tank but it worked out pretty well for him. oh man you clearly haven't seen how flash and jaedong play against each other
This. There is a Reason why Korean starleagues give out their opponents/maps/match ups week+ in advance. So players can prepare.
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is it wrong to hope for keen to 2-0 bomber to see how socked artosis would be? lol
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On August 23 2011 19:25 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 19:22 mr_tolkien wrote:On August 23 2011 19:19 babylon wrote: Okay, hopefully that is the upset of the evening. An UPSET ? Knowing Polt 4-0d him a month ago ? :/ Looking at liquibet percentages, yeah. This is not an upset, this just proves 80% of TL users are Americans.
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On August 23 2011 19:26 Ryncol wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 19:25 Sabu113 wrote:On August 23 2011 19:22 Akhee wrote:On August 23 2011 19:21 Nayl wrote: TL hates Polt for absolutely no reason. Koreans already admit him to be one of the top players especially TvP. he IS the best TvP in the world. Bomber has a nice lategame tvp but overall polt is still better How does he have the best TvP? Honestly, what decent terran worth mentioning doesn't have a strong winning record vP? His mechanics are subpar so just on that note I doubt he TvP is thebest. Mvp is comparatively bad vs P. So is MMA. Polt invented the 1/1/1. MVP refuses to use it. Of course he's bad at TvP. 
Kidding aside, Polt and Bomber have the best TvPs out there.
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On August 23 2011 19:25 Rarak wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 19:05 Koshi wrote:On August 23 2011 19:04 HolyArrow wrote: Bomber creams every Terran, even MVP. Except Byun, but that series was the most confusing shift I've ever seen. Puma is probably even better than Bomber in TvT. Based on what? Puma is good no doubt but Bomber has the best TvT in the world.. I wouldn't even say Puma is top5 TvT.
Puma - Polt is 1-0
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I wonder how we could possibly measure which player is the best out of Polt and MMA?
Perhaps if they played a BO3? No of course not, the only way to measure skill is an endless LR thread debate.
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Horrible series, very sloppy play from both players. Polt had the better builds while it seems MMA just douing some random shit. MMA is so unstable. Sometimes he plays like nobody can beat him (like in his game vs Nestea) and than he plays like copper when he faces players like Polt or HuK...
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Dem dead eyes......... XDXDXD
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