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man.. this feedback is killing my ears 
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Well if I had a choice to see PuMa vs Stephano or PuMa vs MaNa, I'd choose the second option. Not a huge loss imo.
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damn the audio is TERRIBLE
really hurting my ears
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yeah... sound feedbacks are quite annoying + game sounds too soft.
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On August 18 2011 20:08 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2011 20:06 iky43210 wrote:On August 18 2011 20:03 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 18 2011 20:01 KeksX wrote:On August 18 2011 19:57 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 18 2011 19:55 Usagi wrote:On August 18 2011 19:54 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 18 2011 19:53 iky43210 wrote:On August 18 2011 19:52 Xacez wrote:On August 18 2011 19:50 MadNeSs wrote:
if it got 1.4 mill viewers yesterday, then how com LoL only has 5k viewers right now? LoL's official (and free) HD stream have 45k. their huge IEM tourney stream logo and stream embedded right on the center of login screen pretty much ensure their huge (yet inflated) stream counts. how is it inflated? People stumble upon it instead of actually looking for it. Blizzard should really do the same. lol so by properly advertising the tournament and finding as many viewers as possible makes it inflated? give me a break. the views are legit. doesn't matter how its found or if it was intentional. if they decide to watch it, its a view. Blizzard should do the same. But the numbers aren't inflated. And I don't even like LoL, but they deserve the credit. Thats where you are wrong. If someone opens the stream and the connection between the stream server and the computer is set up, so that you transfer data, it's a view. So basically you could fake views by just loading the stream into the login screen, homepages etc. You could also fake views by opening multiple clients of streams within one machine. Don't just assume that something is legit. It's not a new thing to fake viewer counts, it has been done before and it will always be done in the future (Thats not bash at LoL here as it is likely to happen with SC2 streams as well.) But thats not what is happening. The stream isn't open until the people are clicking play. Why can't you just accept the numbers? Do you realize how many people play LoL? Them having 45k viewers right now is no surprise. stream jumped from 15k to 40k SOLELY because of the logo (I was there). If their playerbase truely cares about esport/their game, I think they would've know that their SECOND BIGGEST TOURNEY is going on and wouldn't need a huge shiny embeded stream to remind them Its still 40k people watching. Doesn't matter how they get there. By watching, they are showing interest in it. I mean hell look at the sc2 english stream right now. 5k people. So if 15k people were watching LoL before the logo was up, they are still doing something right.
I don't think this is the place to argue over LOL veiwership...
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On August 18 2011 20:08 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2011 20:06 iky43210 wrote:On August 18 2011 20:03 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 18 2011 20:01 KeksX wrote:On August 18 2011 19:57 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 18 2011 19:55 Usagi wrote:On August 18 2011 19:54 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 18 2011 19:53 iky43210 wrote:On August 18 2011 19:52 Xacez wrote:On August 18 2011 19:50 MadNeSs wrote:
if it got 1.4 mill viewers yesterday, then how com LoL only has 5k viewers right now? LoL's official (and free) HD stream have 45k. their huge IEM tourney stream logo and stream embedded right on the center of login screen pretty much ensure their huge (yet inflated) stream counts. how is it inflated? People stumble upon it instead of actually looking for it. Blizzard should really do the same. lol so by properly advertising the tournament and finding as many viewers as possible makes it inflated? give me a break. the views are legit. doesn't matter how its found or if it was intentional. if they decide to watch it, its a view. Blizzard should do the same. But the numbers aren't inflated. And I don't even like LoL, but they deserve the credit. Thats where you are wrong. If someone opens the stream and the connection between the stream server and the computer is set up, so that you transfer data, it's a view. So basically you could fake views by just loading the stream into the login screen, homepages etc. You could also fake views by opening multiple clients of streams within one machine. Don't just assume that something is legit. It's not a new thing to fake viewer counts, it has been done before and it will always be done in the future (Thats not bash at LoL here as it is likely to happen with SC2 streams as well.) But thats not what is happening. The stream isn't open until the people are clicking play. Why can't you just accept the numbers? Do you realize how many people play LoL? Them having 45k viewers right now is no surprise. stream jumped from 15k to 40k SOLELY because of the logo (I was there). If their playerbase truely cares about esport/their game, I think they would've know that their SECOND BIGGEST TOURNEY is going on and wouldn't need a huge shiny embeded stream to remind them Its still 40k people watching. Doesn't matter how they get there. By watching, they are showing interest in it. I mean hell look at the sc2 english stream right now. 5k people. So if 15k people were watching LoL before the logo was up, they are still doing something right.
there is no sc2 english stream. IEM doesn't care about starcraft
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On August 18 2011 20:06 iky43210 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2011 20:03 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 18 2011 20:01 KeksX wrote:On August 18 2011 19:57 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 18 2011 19:55 Usagi wrote:On August 18 2011 19:54 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 18 2011 19:53 iky43210 wrote:On August 18 2011 19:52 Xacez wrote:On August 18 2011 19:50 MadNeSs wrote:
if it got 1.4 mill viewers yesterday, then how com LoL only has 5k viewers right now? LoL's official (and free) HD stream have 45k. their huge IEM tourney stream logo and stream embedded right on the center of login screen pretty much ensure their huge (yet inflated) stream counts. how is it inflated? People stumble upon it instead of actually looking for it. Blizzard should really do the same. lol so by properly advertising the tournament and finding as many viewers as possible makes it inflated? give me a break. the views are legit. doesn't matter how its found or if it was intentional. if they decide to watch it, its a view. Blizzard should do the same. But the numbers aren't inflated. And I don't even like LoL, but they deserve the credit. Thats where you are wrong. If someone opens the stream and the connection between the stream server and the computer is set up, so that you transfer data, it's a view. So basically you could fake views by just loading the stream into the login screen, homepages etc. You could also fake views by opening multiple clients of streams within one machine. Don't just assume that something is legit. It's not a new thing to fake viewer counts, it has been done before and it will always be done in the future (Thats not bash at LoL here as it is likely to happen with SC2 streams as well.) But thats not what is happening. The stream isn't open until the people are clicking play. Why can't you just accept the numbers? Do you realize how many people play LoL? Them having 45k viewers right now is no surprise. stream jumped from 15k to 40k SOLELY because of the logo (I was there). If their playerbase truely cares about esport/their game, I think they would've know that their SECOND BIGGEST TOURNEY is going on and wouldn't need a huge shiny embeded stream to remind them
what is the problem if people who are not so much into esports stumbled upon the stream, and started watching it? This is actually good because some of these people may not be aware of the esports scene but start getting interested in it, and following it after watching the stream.
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On August 18 2011 20:10 iky43210 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2011 20:08 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 18 2011 20:06 iky43210 wrote:On August 18 2011 20:03 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 18 2011 20:01 KeksX wrote:On August 18 2011 19:57 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 18 2011 19:55 Usagi wrote:On August 18 2011 19:54 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 18 2011 19:53 iky43210 wrote:On August 18 2011 19:52 Xacez wrote:
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LoL's official (and free) HD stream have 45k. their huge IEM tourney stream logo and stream embedded right on the center of login screen pretty much ensure their huge (yet inflated) stream counts. how is it inflated? People stumble upon it instead of actually looking for it. Blizzard should really do the same. lol so by properly advertising the tournament and finding as many viewers as possible makes it inflated? give me a break. the views are legit. doesn't matter how its found or if it was intentional. if they decide to watch it, its a view. Blizzard should do the same. But the numbers aren't inflated. And I don't even like LoL, but they deserve the credit. Thats where you are wrong. If someone opens the stream and the connection between the stream server and the computer is set up, so that you transfer data, it's a view. So basically you could fake views by just loading the stream into the login screen, homepages etc. You could also fake views by opening multiple clients of streams within one machine. Don't just assume that something is legit. It's not a new thing to fake viewer counts, it has been done before and it will always be done in the future (Thats not bash at LoL here as it is likely to happen with SC2 streams as well.) But thats not what is happening. The stream isn't open until the people are clicking play. Why can't you just accept the numbers? Do you realize how many people play LoL? Them having 45k viewers right now is no surprise. stream jumped from 15k to 40k SOLELY because of the logo (I was there). If their playerbase truely cares about esport/their game, I think they would've know that their SECOND BIGGEST TOURNEY is going on and wouldn't need a huge shiny embeded stream to remind them Its still 40k people watching. Doesn't matter how they get there. By watching, they are showing interest in it. I mean hell look at the sc2 english stream right now. 5k people. So if 15k people were watching LoL before the logo was up, they are still doing something right. there is no sc2 english stream. IEM doesn't care about starcraft
I'm watching it now.
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Sc2 is on side stage stream instead of main stage, seriously ?
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Nerchio vs Tarson going on in GC LoL russian stream in english
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I just got home did MaNa beat stephano?
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wow i didn't expect tarson to take out that hatch at top left...
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On August 18 2011 20:04 Angelbelow wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2011 20:03 Ozcollo wrote:On August 18 2011 20:01 jmbthirteen wrote:
apparently we wont be seeing Puma vs Stephano any more as Puma won 2-1 Ugh, I haven't managed to watch PuMa play once so far for this tournament. Is he playing pretty solid? I watched Puma vs Sase and thought he outclassed him pretty hard. Opened both games kind of cheesy and fell behind but caught up with multiple drops - all which seemed to be effective.
Awesome, thanks a lot man.
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God Tarson is such a LAN beast!
Always brings it hard at live events.
On August 18 2011 20:11 Ym!r wrote:
Sc2 is on side stage stream instead of main stage, seriously ?
oh please, stop feeling so entitled. This isn't a SC2 tournament exclusively.
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Stephano vs PuMa on Stage 1 in a minute or two... oh shit so excting
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+ Show Spoiler +On August 18 2011 20:03 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 18 2011 20:01 KeksX wrote:On August 18 2011 19:57 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 18 2011 19:55 Usagi wrote:On August 18 2011 19:54 jmbthirteen wrote:On August 18 2011 19:53 iky43210 wrote:On August 18 2011 19:52 Xacez wrote:On August 18 2011 19:50 MadNeSs wrote:
if it got 1.4 mill viewers yesterday, then how com LoL only has 5k viewers right now? LoL's official (and free) HD stream have 45k. their huge IEM tourney stream logo and stream embedded right on the center of login screen pretty much ensure their huge (yet inflated) stream counts. how is it inflated? People stumble upon it instead of actually looking for it. Blizzard should really do the same. lol so by properly advertising the tournament and finding as many viewers as possible makes it inflated? give me a break. the views are legit. doesn't matter how its found or if it was intentional. if they decide to watch it, its a view. Blizzard should do the same. But the numbers aren't inflated. And I don't even like LoL, but they deserve the credit. Thats where you are wrong. If someone opens the stream and the connection between the stream server and the computer is set up, so that you transfer data, it's a view. So basically you could fake views by just loading the stream into the login screen, homepages etc. You could also fake views by opening multiple clients of streams within one machine. Don't just assume that something is legit. It's not a new thing to fake viewer counts, it has been done before and it will always be done in the future (Thats not bash at LoL here as it is likely to happen with SC2 streams as well.) But thats not what is happening. The stream isn't open until the people are clicking play. Why can't you just accept the numbers? Do you realize how many people play LoL? Them having 45k viewers right now is no surprise. I don't asumme anything and yes I realise the success of LoL. I just wanted to explain that you shouldn't just blindly say "You are wrong. It's all applepie good.". I'm glad people are interested in eSports and even though I don't like LoL I highly appreciate it's success. But that won't stop me from being sceptical about things I find fishy. And if I hear that Riot includes streams into their clients that makes me wonder. Nothing more. Just the same with MLG when they close the stream before an ad and then restart it to get more view hits. (It was just a rumor I think.)
Spoilered because too much OT imho.
Ontopic:
Sometimes, when I see Nerchio play, I think "Wow, great decision." And then 2 Minutes later I think "Okay, he started out soo good, why did he do THAT now?"...
I don't know what to think about this guy.
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Permanent commercials and 10 minutes cam on the audience in between.
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lol at the ppl thinking tarson will be outclassed by nerchio ^^ tarson steps it up for big lans!
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As I see it we won't see HuK in the EG Jersey today as all of his games will be shown only on the Sidestage.
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