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MisterTea
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1047 Posts
August 18 2011 11:00 GMT
#581
"Competitive" Racing games with the Race line still turned on lol, pretty funny
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
August 18 2011 11:00 GMT
#582
On August 18 2011 19:56 morbvs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 19:48 schaf wrote:
yeah IEM is not really as cool as I wished.

360p stream
endless ads
not even much info on the official site... meh.

I wish I could go myself to it all in reality-HD ^^


You could at least purchase the hd stream ;-)
Not only the quality is better... I also have hardly any ads. Only the regular commercial breaks with the guild wars 2 trailer and stuff.



Im not up to buying a pass for 5 euros for 3 days.

Not that it's propably a bad investment but I don't see what IEM makes so special that I have to pay for their stream when many other tournaments don't require this.
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 11:02:47
August 18 2011 11:01 GMT
#583
On August 18 2011 19:57 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 19:55 Usagi wrote:
On August 18 2011 19:54 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 18 2011 19:53 iky43210 wrote:
On August 18 2011 19:52 Xacez wrote:
On August 18 2011 19:50 MadNeSs wrote:
if it got 1.4 mill viewers yesterday, then how com LoL only has 5k viewers right now?

LoL's official (and free) HD stream have 45k.


their huge IEM tourney stream logo and stream embedded right on the center of login screen pretty much ensure their huge (yet inflated) stream counts.

how is it inflated?

People stumble upon it instead of actually looking for it.
Blizzard should really do the same.

lol so by properly advertising the tournament and finding as many viewers as possible makes it inflated? give me a break. the views are legit. doesn't matter how its found or if it was intentional. if they decide to watch it, its a view. Blizzard should do the same. But the numbers aren't inflated. And I don't even like LoL, but they deserve the credit.

Thats where you are wrong.
If someone opens the stream and the connection between the stream server and the computer is set up, so that you transfer data, it's a view.
So basically you could fake views by just loading the stream into the login screen, homepages etc. You could also fake views by opening multiple clients of streams within one machine.

Don't always just assume that something is legit. It's not a new thing to fake viewer counts, it has been done before and it will always be done in the future (Thats not bash at LoL here as it is likely to happen with SC2 streams as well.)

Anyway. Let's please just talk about the games. This trash talk about other games is annoying. People should know by now that many people tend to like new games and LoL. Thats nothing new.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
August 18 2011 11:01 GMT
#584
Nooooooooo

PuMa vs. Stephano not streamed?
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 18 2011 11:01 GMT
#585
apparently we wont be seeing Puma vs Stephano any more as Puma won 2-1
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
August 18 2011 11:01 GMT
#586
On August 18 2011 20:01 DoomsVille wrote:
Nooooooooo

PuMa vs. Stephano not streamed?


Already played it seems.

+ Show Spoiler +
TeamLiquidLIVE TL Live Report
Or not. Puma 2:1 stephano. Trust me schedule is as confusing here at the event as it is at home. Hoping for some starcraft on stage soon
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
August 18 2011 11:01 GMT
#587
TeamLiquidLIVE TL Live Report
Or not. Puma 2:1 stephano. Trust me schedule is as confusing here at the event as it is at home. Hoping for some starcraft on stage

http://twitter.com/#!/TeamLiquidLIVE/status/104144967034871808

Oh, ffs! I really wanted to see those games. Why can't ESL just sort out the schedules properly?
Get crunk
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
August 18 2011 11:02 GMT
#588
On August 18 2011 19:57 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 19:55 Usagi wrote:
On August 18 2011 19:54 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 18 2011 19:53 iky43210 wrote:
On August 18 2011 19:52 Xacez wrote:
On August 18 2011 19:50 MadNeSs wrote:
if it got 1.4 mill viewers yesterday, then how com LoL only has 5k viewers right now?

LoL's official (and free) HD stream have 45k.


their huge IEM tourney stream logo and stream embedded right on the center of login screen pretty much ensure their huge (yet inflated) stream counts.

how is it inflated?

People stumble upon it instead of actually looking for it.
Blizzard should really do the same.

lol so by properly advertising the tournament and finding as many viewers as possible makes it inflated? give me a break. the views are legit. doesn't matter how its found or if it was intentional. if they decide to watch it, its a view. Blizzard should do the same. But the numbers aren't inflated. And I don't even like LoL, but they deserve the credit.

Hey, I didnt say it was inflated, so dont jump on me please.
In fact I only stated that the average watcher of SC2 and LOL are different, most LOL watchers just find it (because LOL properly advertices it) while SC2 viewers are mostly all of them actively waiting for it. At least as it is now.

I could argue this talking about marketing's useful impacts theory, but I dont give a fuck, I just hope taht Either Blizzard starts doing the same, so no tricky outsmarting can pushover other legitimate things only because of high numbers (again, I didnt say inflated, only big)
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
August 18 2011 11:02 GMT
#589
Starting On the side stream though ;(?
It appears I have been chosen.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
August 18 2011 11:02 GMT
#590
On August 18 2011 20:01 KvltMan wrote:
TeamLiquidLIVE TL Live Report
Or not. Puma 2:1 stephano. Trust me schedule is as confusing here at the event as it is at home. Hoping for some starcraft on stage

http://twitter.com/#!/TeamLiquidLIVE/status/104144967034871808

Oh, ffs! I really wanted to see those games. Why can't ESL just sort out the schedules properly?

I kno eh!

That was probably the group stage match I wanted to watch the most...
bkjn
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany30 Posts
August 18 2011 11:02 GMT
#591
On August 18 2011 20:00 MisterTea wrote:
"Competitive" Racing games with the Race line still turned on lol, pretty funny


Just look at the fatass-nerd who is playing it. His hands are too fat for SC2 so he can only play with a racing-wheel.

User was banned for this post.
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
August 18 2011 11:03 GMT
#592
rotterdam and bitter have some pretty cool tshirts
http://twitter.com/jhNz
Ozcollo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States154 Posts
August 18 2011 11:03 GMT
#593
On August 18 2011 20:01 jmbthirteen wrote:
apparently we wont be seeing Puma vs Stephano any more as Puma won 2-1


Ugh, I haven't managed to watch PuMa play once so far for this tournament. Is he playing pretty solid?
Murdock
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland490 Posts
August 18 2011 11:03 GMT
#594
Tarson vs Nerchio Live!
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 18 2011 11:03 GMT
#595
On August 18 2011 20:01 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 19:57 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 18 2011 19:55 Usagi wrote:
On August 18 2011 19:54 jmbthirteen wrote:
On August 18 2011 19:53 iky43210 wrote:
On August 18 2011 19:52 Xacez wrote:
On August 18 2011 19:50 MadNeSs wrote:
if it got 1.4 mill viewers yesterday, then how com LoL only has 5k viewers right now?

LoL's official (and free) HD stream have 45k.


their huge IEM tourney stream logo and stream embedded right on the center of login screen pretty much ensure their huge (yet inflated) stream counts.

how is it inflated?

People stumble upon it instead of actually looking for it.
Blizzard should really do the same.

lol so by properly advertising the tournament and finding as many viewers as possible makes it inflated? give me a break. the views are legit. doesn't matter how its found or if it was intentional. if they decide to watch it, its a view. Blizzard should do the same. But the numbers aren't inflated. And I don't even like LoL, but they deserve the credit.

Thats where you are wrong.
If someone opens the stream and the connection between the stream server and the computer is set up, so that you transfer data, it's a view.
So basically you could fake views by just loading the stream into the login screen, homepages etc. You could also fake views by opening multiple clients of streams within one machine.

Don't just assume that something is legit. It's not a new thing to fake viewer counts, it has been done before and it will always be done in the future (Thats not bash at LoL here as it is likely to happen with SC2 streams as well.)


But thats not what is happening. The stream isn't open until the people are clicking play. Why can't you just accept the numbers? Do you realize how many people play LoL? Them having 45k viewers right now is no surprise.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
August 18 2011 11:03 GMT
#596
yay starcraft! gogo tarson!
first we make expand, then we defense it.
sibi
Profile Joined June 2011
Slovenia19 Posts
August 18 2011 11:03 GMT
#597
finally some sc2 in english! yeah
.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
August 18 2011 11:04 GMT
#598
WTFFFF I was dying to see Puma vs Stephano
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 11:05:05
August 18 2011 11:04 GMT
#599
Most casual gamers click on the shiny logo in LoL login screen because it is new, not necessary something they care about.

Sure, it brings them more viewers, and good strategy for them to do. But it ruins those of us that do care about esports and looks/watches for tourneys
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
August 18 2011 11:04 GMT
#600
On August 18 2011 20:03 Ozcollo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 20:01 jmbthirteen wrote:
apparently we wont be seeing Puma vs Stephano any more as Puma won 2-1


Ugh, I haven't managed to watch PuMa play once so far for this tournament. Is he playing pretty solid?


I watched Puma vs Sase and thought he outclassed him pretty hard. Opened both games kind of cheesy and fell behind but caught up with multiple drops - all which seemed to be effective.
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