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Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 17:17:10
August 18 2011 17:15 GMT
#4421
On August 19 2011 02:04 rO_Or wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:03 Asha` wrote:
Is Dota 2 better to spectate/understand for complete nubs than LoL?

I want to learn a bit more about one or the other this week, but if Dota is easier I'll duck out and prep some dinner before Dota comes on.


No, LOL is much simpler, easier to learn. DOTA teams actually utilize complicated strategies. If you are a complete noob, LOL is your game.


Just like SC2 in relation to BW.


...


Or at least that's what an angry elitist will say. More reasonable people will tell you it's just a different game with similar mechanics.
Bora Pain minha porra!
rO_Or
Profile Joined October 2010
United States306 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 17:17:55
August 18 2011 17:16 GMT
#4422
On August 19 2011 02:11 Anzekay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:04 rO_Or wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:03 Asha` wrote:
Is Dota 2 better to spectate/understand for complete nubs than LoL?

I want to learn a bit more about one or the other this week, but if Dota is easier I'll duck out and prep some dinner before Dota comes on.


No, LOL is much simpler, easier to learn. DOTA teams actually utilize complicated strategies. If you are a complete noob, LOL is your game.


Complete generalizations, LoL is not for 'complete noobs"- it's just a different and, yes, somewhat simpler game.

That doesn't mean it's just for 'noobs'. Playing it at the top level is still a very, very, difficult and taxing thing to do.


When the top HON player goes to LOL and in 3 weeks is undeniably the best player there it is safe to assume it's for noobs. Sorry there's no nicer way to put it.

Now that Chu is back to HON he is in terrible shape from playing LOL so much and playing within a much more forgiving/slow game.
On August 19 2011 00:04 Larryx wrote: The thing is that EU events are so much Difficultier than NA ones.
Anzekay
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia63 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 17:17:30
August 18 2011 17:17 GMT
#4423
On August 19 2011 02:16 rO_Or wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:11 Anzekay wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:04 rO_Or wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:03 Asha` wrote:
Is Dota 2 better to spectate/understand for complete nubs than LoL?

I want to learn a bit more about one or the other this week, but if Dota is easier I'll duck out and prep some dinner before Dota comes on.


No, LOL is much simpler, easier to learn. DOTA teams actually utilize complicated strategies. If you are a complete noob, LOL is your game.


Complete generalizations, LoL is not for 'complete noobs"- it's just a different and, yes, somewhat simpler game.

That doesn't mean it's just for 'noobs'. Playing it at the top level is still a very, very, difficult and taxing thing to do.


When the top HON player goes to LOL and in 3 weeks is undeniably the best player there it is safe to assume it's for noobs. Sorry there's no nicer way to put it.


Anecdotal evidence does not a strong argument make.
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 17:17:55
August 18 2011 17:17 GMT
#4424
On August 19 2011 02:14 Weemoed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:12 befek wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:10 Weemoed wrote:
So... what did IdrA exactly said about MaNa that makes everything mad? I missed the fuss about it. Not to start an argument or something, i'm just interested. Or a source where the bashing can be found.

THat Mana is awful and he is not talented at all and just bad.


Thank you for the reply. His usual bashings I quess. Respectless.

artosis skew and idra have always kind of disrespected mana in BW
the most recent obviously is IPL
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
and this image is lol
rO_Or
Profile Joined October 2010
United States306 Posts
August 18 2011 17:18 GMT
#4425
On August 19 2011 02:17 Anzekay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:16 rO_Or wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:11 Anzekay wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:04 rO_Or wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:03 Asha` wrote:
Is Dota 2 better to spectate/understand for complete nubs than LoL?

I want to learn a bit more about one or the other this week, but if Dota is easier I'll duck out and prep some dinner before Dota comes on.


No, LOL is much simpler, easier to learn. DOTA teams actually utilize complicated strategies. If you are a complete noob, LOL is your game.


Complete generalizations, LoL is not for 'complete noobs"- it's just a different and, yes, somewhat simpler game.

That doesn't mean it's just for 'noobs'. Playing it at the top level is still a very, very, difficult and taxing thing to do.


When the top HON player goes to LOL and in 3 weeks is undeniably the best player there it is safe to assume it's for noobs. Sorry there's no nicer way to put it.


Anecdotal evidence does not a strong argument make.


Anecdotal evidence? Look up Chu. It's empirical evidence, sorry bud.
On August 19 2011 00:04 Larryx wrote: The thing is that EU events are so much Difficultier than NA ones.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
August 18 2011 17:18 GMT
#4426
come home, see HuKs 0-3, lol
Hater of MKP since GSL Open Season 2 | Fanboy of: NesTea Stephano IdrA DIMAGA MorroW ret DongRaeGu Snute SaSe Mvp ThorZaIN DeMusliM
Weemoed
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands741 Posts
August 18 2011 17:18 GMT
#4427
On August 19 2011 02:15 FunnelC4kes wrote:
Is it just me, or does HuK have a really bad track record with IEM events?

I don't think I can remember him ever getting out of groups...


I just feel he's a bit inconsistent. Sometimes he really shines and outplays some of the best players in the world and other times he seems awfully shaky.
Bring me to space, and let me wander there forever
claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
August 18 2011 17:19 GMT
#4428
idra said mana is not talented?
good job for talking bullshit again,idra
Weemoed
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands741 Posts
August 18 2011 17:20 GMT
#4429
On August 19 2011 02:17 billyX333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:14 Weemoed wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:12 befek wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:10 Weemoed wrote:
So... what did IdrA exactly said about MaNa that makes everything mad? I missed the fuss about it. Not to start an argument or something, i'm just interested. Or a source where the bashing can be found.

THat Mana is awful and he is not talented at all and just bad.


Thank you for the reply. His usual bashings I quess. Respectless.

artosis skew and idra have always kind of disrespected mana in BW
the most recent obviously is IPL
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
and this image is lol


Never seen that picture before, despite following Broodwar for years. Damn, i'm always missing these things

Bring me to space, and let me wander there forever
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
August 18 2011 17:20 GMT
#4430
Travel must be getting to him. And I don't necessarily mean jetlag.

I just mean, when the hell is he supposed to practice? Probably hasn't had any decent practice for 2 weeks.
Anzekay
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia63 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 17:22:13
August 18 2011 17:21 GMT
#4431
On August 19 2011 02:18 rO_Or wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:17 Anzekay wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:16 rO_Or wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:11 Anzekay wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:04 rO_Or wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:03 Asha` wrote:
Is Dota 2 better to spectate/understand for complete nubs than LoL?

I want to learn a bit more about one or the other this week, but if Dota is easier I'll duck out and prep some dinner before Dota comes on.


No, LOL is much simpler, easier to learn. DOTA teams actually utilize complicated strategies. If you are a complete noob, LOL is your game.


Complete generalizations, LoL is not for 'complete noobs"- it's just a different and, yes, somewhat simpler game.

That doesn't mean it's just for 'noobs'. Playing it at the top level is still a very, very, difficult and taxing thing to do.


When the top HON player goes to LOL and in 3 weeks is undeniably the best player there it is safe to assume it's for noobs. Sorry there's no nicer way to put it.


Anecdotal evidence does not a strong argument make.


Anecdotal evidence? Look up Chu. It's empirical evidence, sorry bud.


Bah, nevermind offtopic
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 18 2011 17:22 GMT
#4432
The #IEM #SC2 1/4 Finals are:
MC - SeleCT
MaNa - mOOnGlaDe
Socke - Kas
Nerchio - PuMa.

wow
Stork[gm]
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
August 18 2011 17:22 GMT
#4433
On August 19 2011 02:19 claash wrote:
idra said mana is not talented?
good job for talking bullshit again,idra

Well idra is some1 that should never be taken serious really.

Mana fighting!
Predicted this as well .
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 17:23:24
August 18 2011 17:23 GMT
#4434
I haven't played LoL in months. I'm really surprised to see Caitlyn, Jax and Gangplank in competitive play.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
Bashion
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands2612 Posts
August 18 2011 17:23 GMT
#4435
Can someone spoil me the results for today?

I've got moves like Jagger
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
August 18 2011 17:23 GMT
#4436
On August 19 2011 02:23 Bashion wrote:
Can someone spoil me the results for today?


Look at the op.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
jujumonster
Profile Joined November 2010
10 Posts
August 18 2011 17:24 GMT
#4437
On August 19 2011 02:19 claash wrote:
idra said mana is not talented?
good job for talking bullshit again,idra

Idra also used to say that nestea was bad... You can't really take idra's biased hate too seriously
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 18 2011 17:24 GMT
#4438
On August 19 2011 02:22 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:19 claash wrote:
idra said mana is not talented?
good job for talking bullshit again,idra

Well idra is some1 that should never be taken serious really.

Mana fighting!
Predicted this as well .

nah its just positive IdrA blessing, expect MaNa to top Code S soon
Stork[gm]
FoeHamr
Profile Joined December 2010
United States489 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 17:25:30
August 18 2011 17:24 GMT
#4439
On August 19 2011 02:15 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:04 rO_Or wrote:
On August 19 2011 02:03 Asha` wrote:
Is Dota 2 better to spectate/understand for complete nubs than LoL?

I want to learn a bit more about one or the other this week, but if Dota is easier I'll duck out and prep some dinner before Dota comes on.


No, LOL is much simpler, easier to learn. DOTA teams actually utilize complicated strategies. If you are a complete noob, LOL is your game.


Just like SC2 in relation to BW.


...


Or at least that's what an angry elitist will say. More reasonable people will tell you it's just a different game with similar mechanics.


No, hes actually right. I play and like HoN and LoL, LoL is a casual game for a audience that overall isn;t as good.
Howl67
Profile Joined October 2010
United States148 Posts
August 18 2011 17:24 GMT
#4440
On August 19 2011 02:24 jujumonster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:19 claash wrote:
idra said mana is not talented?
good job for talking bullshit again,idra

Idra also used to say that nestea was bad... You can't really take idra's biased hate too seriously


He did later retract his statement however.
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