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Ethern
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland29 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 17:01:31
August 18 2011 17:01 GMT
#4401
Dota 2 Stream coming back!
ZeraToss
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1094 Posts
August 18 2011 17:02 GMT
#4402
On August 19 2011 02:01 Ethern wrote:
Dota 2 Stream coming back!

yeah nice, what do they show on IEM SC2 ?
"Personality should be irrelevant. This is a computer game tournament, not a dating show." EGIdrA on "introduce yourself and say something about your personality" Idra <3
claash
Profile Joined August 2011
Poland472 Posts
August 18 2011 17:02 GMT
#4403
On August 19 2011 01:57 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:50 claash wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:46 flowSthead wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:42 teddyoojo wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:39 flowSthead wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:35 claash wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:34 hugman wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:29 JohnMatrix wrote:
Poland>Sweden right now ?

It's hard to say who's better between Naniwa and Mana
I would say ThorZaIN > Tarson, Nerchio > MorroW & Haypro, but SjoW > DieStar


you can forget people like haypro and sjow to be honest and morrow isnt a 3 top zerg in europe as well.
you gotta compare each of them eachother so im sure poland is better


Wait what? You can forget Sjow for some reason? I don't understand your reasoning at all.

sjow is FAR away from being a decent player. he cant multitask for S**T. he just won because terran was OP and everyone was bad. nowadays skill actually matters much more than back then. you cant just win with a decently executed strategy.


Sjow did pretty decently at Assembly, losing to Mana, but beating TLO, Adelscott and Happy. At Anaheim he beat Sheth, Cruncher, and Haypro, losing to Huk. How does any of these recent results mean that Sjow is bad?


well 100020 americans and 9 europeans so of course you always look good and better as well
beating tlo,adel and happy..emm ye... doesnt make him better than the best polish players.
but i bet 100 euros that at least someone from sweden will try to defend it


No I was comparing him to DieStar lol

Anyway Naniwa beat both Tarson and Nerchio offline recently and MaNa hasn't played vs Naniwa in a while


At least 1 hero in sweden left;)
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 18 2011 17:03 GMT
#4404
Is Dota 2 better to spectate/understand for complete nubs than LoL?

I want to learn a bit more about one or the other this week, but if Dota is easier I'll duck out and prep some dinner before Dota comes on.
lolsixtynine
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
August 18 2011 17:04 GMT
#4405
I have to say, it's a little surprising that HuK went 1-6 but it's not really surprising that he didn't advance. He's had a rough month with travel and team changes and all that.
rO_Or
Profile Joined October 2010
United States306 Posts
August 18 2011 17:04 GMT
#4406
On August 19 2011 02:03 Asha` wrote:
Is Dota 2 better to spectate/understand for complete nubs than LoL?

I want to learn a bit more about one or the other this week, but if Dota is easier I'll duck out and prep some dinner before Dota comes on.


No, LOL is much simpler, easier to learn. DOTA teams actually utilize complicated strategies. If you are a complete noob, LOL is your game.
On August 19 2011 00:04 Larryx wrote: The thing is that EU events are so much Difficultier than NA ones.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 17:06:31
August 18 2011 17:04 GMT
#4407
On August 19 2011 01:57 Fyzar wrote:
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On August 19 2011 01:55 Shawngood wrote:
Since quite a lot of people have been asking about the "6 Pool", "4 Gate", "3 Rax" T-Shirts... you can pre-order them here:

http://www.esl-shop.net/index.php/language/en

Wow, those Gunnar optics glasses are expensive ;o.
I didn\t expect that, are they actually useful?

In theory yes but to be honest if you're having problems with your eyes from playing too much its probably an issue with your eyes being strained, which is fixed by proper glasses, and not with making the screen less bright.

I wear glasses when I read or spend long periods on the computer (cheaper ones from an actual optician) because my eyes can become strained if I spend too long reading or staring at a monitor and I would say its not worth buying something like this unless you notice problems, and if you do notice problems go to an optician to get a diagnosis instead of blindly buying a designer set of yellow glasses.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
August 18 2011 17:07 GMT
#4408
Wow MaNa has been on fire recently... god damn! Go MaNa!
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 17:10:44
August 18 2011 17:09 GMT
#4409
awww SC2 is over ? :/ any idea until what time LoL is ? hoping to catch the rerun.
Weemoed
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands741 Posts
August 18 2011 17:10 GMT
#4410
So... what did IdrA exactly said about MaNa that makes everything mad? I missed the fuss about it. Not to start an argument or something, i'm just interested. Or a source where the bashing can be found.
Bring me to space, and let me wander there forever
Anzekay
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia63 Posts
August 18 2011 17:11 GMT
#4411
On August 19 2011 02:04 rO_Or wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:03 Asha` wrote:
Is Dota 2 better to spectate/understand for complete nubs than LoL?

I want to learn a bit more about one or the other this week, but if Dota is easier I'll duck out and prep some dinner before Dota comes on.


No, LOL is much simpler, easier to learn. DOTA teams actually utilize complicated strategies. If you are a complete noob, LOL is your game.


Complete generalizations, LoL is not for 'complete noobs"- it's just a different and, yes, somewhat simpler game.

That doesn't mean it's just for 'noobs'. Playing it at the top level is still a very, very, difficult and taxing thing to do.

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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
August 18 2011 17:11 GMT
#4412
MaNa and Nerchio 1st in their groups, Europe fightning!
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 18 2011 17:12 GMT
#4413
On August 19 2011 02:10 Weemoed wrote:
So... what did IdrA exactly said about MaNa that makes everything mad? I missed the fuss about it. Not to start an argument or something, i'm just interested. Or a source where the bashing can be found.

I can't remember anyone he's called good tbh, so no real news. He called ret really good, probably because he's another zerg like him that enjoys making drones. He even called NesTea bad.

befek
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland413 Posts
August 18 2011 17:12 GMT
#4414
On August 19 2011 02:10 Weemoed wrote:
So... what did IdrA exactly said about MaNa that makes everything mad? I missed the fuss about it. Not to start an argument or something, i'm just interested. Or a source where the bashing can be found.

THat Mana is awful and he is not talented at all and just bad.
Dan "Artosis" Stark: Roaches are coming, Game of Drones begins!
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 18 2011 17:13 GMT
#4415
On August 19 2011 02:00 VileVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 01:41 mijagi182 wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:39 schben wrote:
On August 19 2011 01:36 VileVe wrote:
fuck yeah poland! ill forgive you for the stolen cars! Man - A/nerchio for top 2!

I thought only Germans have this stereotype. You always learn something useful on TL^^


nah idiots has no specific nation

naw, im sorry. no offense intended just some stereotype trolling. like nazi germans fat americans stupid swedes and bad teeth among the british

I don't know anything about stolen cars. It's not like we needed them during communism anyway...

relax people
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Yggydraseal
Profile Joined April 2011
United States285 Posts
August 18 2011 17:13 GMT
#4416
On August 19 2011 02:04 rO_Or wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:03 Asha` wrote:
Is Dota 2 better to spectate/understand for complete nubs than LoL?

I want to learn a bit more about one or the other this week, but if Dota is easier I'll duck out and prep some dinner before Dota comes on.


No, LOL is much simpler, easier to learn. DOTA teams actually utilize complicated strategies. If you are a complete noob, LOL is your game.


Not true at all and I don't see why people say this. Both games are 100% different. Play both.
"The greatest athletes of all time... Michael Jordan, Roger Federer, and SlayerSBoxer." - Artosis
Ethern
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland29 Posts
August 18 2011 17:14 GMT
#4417
On August 19 2011 02:10 Weemoed wrote:
So... what did IdrA exactly said about MaNa that makes everything mad? I missed the fuss about it. Not to start an argument or something, i'm just interested. Or a source where the bashing can be found.


It was last game of bo5, and first: after superb stupid A-move with lings/roahces into whole protoss army + FF , he typed: "its f******* joke" - or something like this, and second: then a lot Mana Stalkers totaly killed his last army or roaches at this natural, he typed "f*** you".

Mana is the most maner game from Bw and SC2, so I don't see a point to BM him ,but well Idra is Idra.
Weemoed
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands741 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-18 17:15:57
August 18 2011 17:14 GMT
#4418
On August 19 2011 02:12 befek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 02:10 Weemoed wrote:
So... what did IdrA exactly said about MaNa that makes everything mad? I missed the fuss about it. Not to start an argument or something, i'm just interested. Or a source where the bashing can be found.

THat Mana is awful and he is not talented at all and just bad.


Thank you for the reply. His usual bashings I quess. Respectless.
Bring me to space, and let me wander there forever
FunnelC4kes
Profile Joined July 2010
Ireland462 Posts
August 18 2011 17:15 GMT
#4419
Is it just me, or does HuK have a really bad track record with IEM events?

I don't think I can remember him ever getting out of groups...
Scholar. Shaman. Starcraft Enthusiast.
stevorino
Profile Joined April 2011
957 Posts
August 18 2011 17:15 GMT
#4420
On August 19 2011 02:10 Weemoed wrote:
So... what did IdrA exactly said about MaNa that makes everything mad? I missed the fuss about it. Not to start an argument or something, i'm just interested. Or a source where the bashing can be found.


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