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On August 17 2011 23:48 GreyKnight wrote:
rotterdam seem very ashamed of picking the wrong map. i don't know why, it's not a big deal. don't have to be so apologetic. it's a simple mistake.
The way it played out it was quite huge. Both players exposed their builds before they realized it was the wrong map. It's actually quite huge mentally, because you know your opponent can just go and check match history. It screws with what you had planned and its just really not a position you want to be in.
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On August 17 2011 23:49 wats0n wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 23:48 Doler wrote:On August 17 2011 23:44 wats0n wrote:On August 17 2011 23:41 Lordwar wrote:On August 17 2011 21:48 wats0n wrote:On August 17 2011 21:44 Fyzar wrote:On August 17 2011 21:41 Loxley wrote:
Rotterdam is top 100 EU (read it in this post, confirm anyone?) Day9, no one knows his rank. But considering his full schedule im guessing he hardly has time to train/ladder/play. But ye, doesn't really matter altho i would like to know day9's current rank.. For the time being, both are casters foremost. Confirm, he was top 100 EU before GM, I believe he dropped now due to an insane losing streak xd, but he is that level. Was that S2 as well. He just is the highest level playing caster atm, together with Artosis, you can't argue for Day9 because for all we know he's bronze. If you think anybody who could achieve A+ on ICCUP in a harder game couldn't get top 100 on EU then you're funny. i am pretty sure day9 has not even time to train that hard sc2. He might be in masters but thats it. top 100 is daydreaming. Brood war skills no matter how good you are, do not translate instantly to sc2 even if sc2 mechanics are easier. You need to really understand the game and traing builds well and execute all timings and stuff well, and it takes time. You dont get to top100 in sc2 easily even if you were A+ in ICCUP you are just silly Did you seriously just rehash an argument the mods said to drop from 2 hours ago to insult me? If you think Day who was A+ in ICCUP and obviously has sc2 knowledge couldn't grind his way into grandmasters you're a fool. Leave me alone now please. This argument is stupid. Ofcourse he could grind his way into grandmasters if he puts time and effort in it, which he doesn't, therefor his insight is outdated. Rotterdam on the other hand does put a lot of effort in playing the game, and so does mrbitter Uh, you don't know that he doesn't. He smurfs 
If you listen to his casts, and the day9daily, you can safely assumes he is not even close to grandmaster on any server
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On August 17 2011 23:46 wats0n wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 23:44 Lordwar wrote:On August 17 2011 23:44 wats0n wrote:On August 17 2011 23:41 Lordwar wrote:On August 17 2011 21:48 wats0n wrote:On August 17 2011 21:44 Fyzar wrote:On August 17 2011 21:41 Loxley wrote:
Rotterdam is top 100 EU (read it in this post, confirm anyone?) Day9, no one knows his rank. But considering his full schedule im guessing he hardly has time to train/ladder/play. But ye, doesn't really matter altho i would like to know day9's current rank.. For the time being, both are casters foremost. Confirm, he was top 100 EU before GM, I believe he dropped now due to an insane losing streak xd, but he is that level. Was that S2 as well. He just is the highest level playing caster atm, together with Artosis, you can't argue for Day9 because for all we know he's bronze. If you think anybody who could achieve A+ on ICCUP in a harder game couldn't get top 100 on EU then you're funny. i am pretty sure day9 has not even time to train that hard sc2. He might be in masters but thats it. top 100 is daydreaming. Brood war skills no matter how good you are, do not translate instantly to sc2 even if sc2 mechanics are easier. You need to really understand the game and traing builds well and execute all timings and stuff well, and it takes time. You dont get to top100 in sc2 easily even if you were A+ in ICCUP you are just silly Did you seriously just rehash an argument the mods said to drop from 2 hours ago to insult me? If you think Day who was A+ in ICCUP and obviously has sc2 knowledge couldn't grind his way into grandmasters you're a fool. Leave me alone now please. This argument is stupid. You are just idiot and you dont acknowledge it. Thats the problem here. You're right, I don't acknowledge it. But it's not a problem for anybody but you so get over it.
I actually find your arguments quite annoying. There's no way to possibly prove that Day[9] is better than *insert random bronze player* until someone figures out one of his names on Bnet. Arguing for him when you clearly have no clue is pretty.. dumb..
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At the risk of looking like an idiot, isn't the schedule showed on the Side Stage stream wrong?
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Btw, if any of you haven't checked out the TL layout, go check it out. srsly.
Augh... Ke$ha. I take it back.
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On August 17 2011 23:48 Loxley wrote:With all this stream switching and watching the pre-ads im definitately helping e-sports 
If you wanna help eSports maybe you should also use proxy servers to access the streams and restart you router to change IP :D
Not sure how they count the "unique viewers", but it's unique viewers that matter afaik and not just the same people switching streams often.
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On August 17 2011 23:50 Hatsu wrote:
At the risk of looking like an idiot, isn't the schedule showed on the Side Stage stream wrong?
Yes it is, they have no updated some things, for starters they still have IdrA on the sched
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On August 17 2011 23:48 Loxley wrote:With all this stream switching and watching the pre-ads im definitately helping e-sports
Good boy 
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Lol that desert operation ad is really annoying, it's a lot higher than the audio on stream and you can't mute it at all. T_T
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On August 17 2011 23:50 meRz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 23:48 GreyKnight wrote:
rotterdam seem very ashamed of picking the wrong map. i don't know why, it's not a big deal. don't have to be so apologetic. it's a simple mistake. The way it played out it was quite huge. Both players exposed their builds before they realized it was the wrong map. It's actually quite huge mentally, because you know your opponent can just go and check match history. It screws with what you had planned and its just really not a position you want to be in.
Sort of... Neither player got a scout off on the other. The only risk, as rotterdam said, was if one play watched the replay quickly and saw what the build was. Obviously the games can go way different and it CAN end up being a much bigger issue but yeah, I don't think it was a massive thing this time. Pretty unlucky with the random spawn position to close though too.
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On August 17 2011 23:42 ineq wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 23:37 faruq wrote:
I'm really trying to look beyond Kelly's reputation, but she has to at least sound "standard". I know some will argue about "Singaporean English" thing, but she is catering an international audience, so my friendly advice to her is maybe to refine her diction a little so that we she will be generally understandable. It's for her own good also. How can you not understand her? I'd blame that on your english skills, not on Kelly, i understand her perfectly fine. And i'd say i'm as far away from familiar with "Singaporean English" as you can get.
You're also living in a country that has one of the highest percentages of english speaking people in the world, with a school system actually teaching people proper english. You can't expect everyone to speak perfect english.
The fact that his might be worse doesn't mean that his complaint isn't legitimate. I can imagine people with poorer english have issues with certain accents they aren't used to.
Edit: This doesn't apply to just Kelly or anything, it applies to all non-native (and even some native) english speakers. If they'd stick someone up there with a heavy southern accent, you'd get the same reactions.
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If we're going to make a subtle and informed criticism of a caster, can't we just stick to specific instances and not broad philosophical generalizations about them and who they are. It's a bit arrogant to think we can gauge their knowledge outside of specific examples.
Oh, and can we NOT do it in this thread? Mmkay.
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On August 17 2011 23:50 ineq wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 23:46 wats0n wrote:On August 17 2011 23:44 Lordwar wrote:On August 17 2011 23:44 wats0n wrote:On August 17 2011 23:41 Lordwar wrote:On August 17 2011 21:48 wats0n wrote:On August 17 2011 21:44 Fyzar wrote:On August 17 2011 21:41 Loxley wrote:
Rotterdam is top 100 EU (read it in this post, confirm anyone?) Day9, no one knows his rank. But considering his full schedule im guessing he hardly has time to train/ladder/play. But ye, doesn't really matter altho i would like to know day9's current rank.. For the time being, both are casters foremost. Confirm, he was top 100 EU before GM, I believe he dropped now due to an insane losing streak xd, but he is that level. Was that S2 as well. He just is the highest level playing caster atm, together with Artosis, you can't argue for Day9 because for all we know he's bronze. If you think anybody who could achieve A+ on ICCUP in a harder game couldn't get top 100 on EU then you're funny. i am pretty sure day9 has not even time to train that hard sc2. He might be in masters but thats it. top 100 is daydreaming. Brood war skills no matter how good you are, do not translate instantly to sc2 even if sc2 mechanics are easier. You need to really understand the game and traing builds well and execute all timings and stuff well, and it takes time. You dont get to top100 in sc2 easily even if you were A+ in ICCUP you are just silly Did you seriously just rehash an argument the mods said to drop from 2 hours ago to insult me? If you think Day who was A+ in ICCUP and obviously has sc2 knowledge couldn't grind his way into grandmasters you're a fool. Leave me alone now please. This argument is stupid. You are just idiot and you dont acknowledge it. Thats the problem here. You're right, I don't acknowledge it. But it's not a problem for anybody but you so get over it. I actually find your arguments quite annoying. There's no way to possibly prove that Day[9] is better than *insert random bronze player* until someone figures out one of his names on Bnet. Arguing for him when you clearly have no clue is pretty.. dumb..
Except I'm not arguing for him. I'm arguing against the idea that he can't be at a grandmaster level. All I've said is that there's a very real possibility that he could be. And I didn't rehash this argument so it's astounding that you find my "arguments annoying" or say that I'm arguing something.
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On August 17 2011 23:48 Doler wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 23:44 wats0n wrote:On August 17 2011 23:41 Lordwar wrote:On August 17 2011 21:48 wats0n wrote:On August 17 2011 21:44 Fyzar wrote:On August 17 2011 21:41 Loxley wrote:
Rotterdam is top 100 EU (read it in this post, confirm anyone?) Day9, no one knows his rank. But considering his full schedule im guessing he hardly has time to train/ladder/play. But ye, doesn't really matter altho i would like to know day9's current rank.. For the time being, both are casters foremost. Confirm, he was top 100 EU before GM, I believe he dropped now due to an insane losing streak xd, but he is that level. Was that S2 as well. He just is the highest level playing caster atm, together with Artosis, you can't argue for Day9 because for all we know he's bronze. If you think anybody who could achieve A+ on ICCUP in a harder game couldn't get top 100 on EU then you're funny. i am pretty sure day9 has not even time to train that hard sc2. He might be in masters but thats it. top 100 is daydreaming. Brood war skills no matter how good you are, do not translate instantly to sc2 even if sc2 mechanics are easier. You need to really understand the game and traing builds well and execute all timings and stuff well, and it takes time. You dont get to top100 in sc2 easily even if you were A+ in ICCUP you are just silly Did you seriously just rehash an argument the mods said to drop from 2 hours ago to insult me? If you think Day who was A+ in ICCUP and obviously has sc2 knowledge couldn't grind his way into grandmasters you're a fool. Leave me alone now please. This argument is stupid. Ofcourse he could grind his way into grandmasters if he puts time and effort in it, which he doesn't, therefor his insight is outdated. Rotterdam on the other hand does put a lot of effort in playing the game, and so does mrbitter
If you think Mr.Bitter has more insight than Day9 you are horriblely wrong Day9 represent the US 2 times in WCG. And Im sure Day9 got some secret accout with at least Master. All that BW knowledge and SC2 knowledge put Day9 at the position hes in now!!
You don't see any Day9's play doesn't mean he doesn't have great insight and top notch analysis.
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On August 17 2011 23:52 jjmmtt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 23:50 meRz wrote:On August 17 2011 23:48 GreyKnight wrote:
rotterdam seem very ashamed of picking the wrong map. i don't know why, it's not a big deal. don't have to be so apologetic. it's a simple mistake. The way it played out it was quite huge. Both players exposed their builds before they realized it was the wrong map. It's actually quite huge mentally, because you know your opponent can just go and check match history. It screws with what you had planned and its just really not a position you want to be in. Sort of... Neither player got a scout off on the other. The only risk, as rotterdam said, was if one play watched the replay quickly and saw what the build was. Obviously the games can go way different and it CAN end up being a much bigger issue but yeah, I don't think it was a massive thing this time. Pretty unlucky with the random spawn position to close though too.
It's not even about watching the replay. Watching the replay is unethical in a situation like that and you can actually stop them from doing that because you see whenever a player is in a replay. But taking a look at Match history is something you can do in 10 seconds while you're in the lobby. Match history exposes the build perfectly anyways. These arent cloaked maps.
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On August 17 2011 23:51 Baituri wrote: Stream could not be initialized. Please refresh the page for trying it again. ____ Anyone has this message when they try to watch the premium stream? Can't seem to watch it anymore
Had it too earlier. It worked fine after a while, but I refreshed a lot of times. Just use the 2 treams on 2 tabs of your browser and never turn them off once they work :D (if your connection can handle two hq streams simultaneously that is )
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kas-killer any minute now
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oh no, i don't understand anything he's saying lol
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