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Cant believe theres so much hate in these threads while we're so blessed with a wonderful event, with wonderful games. Last warning, whine and insult the players or commentators? See you.
murd3r3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic102 Posts
July 31 2011 23:35 GMT
#10281
does anyone have that DONGRAEGUSTA pix aka me gusta head on muta ?
and the heavens shall tremble
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
July 31 2011 23:35 GMT
#10282
I don't see how people can complain about an SC2 TvT finals. If anyone has watched a ZvZ finals in a BW OSL or MSL, then you can watch fucking anything. Nothing worse than BW ZvZ, and that's pretty much an objective fact.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
July 31 2011 23:36 GMT
#10283
On August 01 2011 08:33 Steveling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 08:26 Robinsa wrote:
I know djwheat and co says that bringing Koreans to the events does increase the competition but I'm not even going to watch an all korean Bo 4. MLG bringing in more and more Koreans every time is slowly ruining the event and by that foreign esport. Who benefits from people losing interest and all the money going to Korea?

Other then this I love MLG and the games where I can see my favorite players compete with great casting / production.



Thank god, all major tournies started inviting Koreans.
I simply don't watch when a tour is consisted only by foreigns.


Same,. It's like watching minor league baseball when its all foreigners, and watching Major league baseball when watching GSL. I prefer a mix of both players, however.

I will master Speshul Taktics.!
Tehs Tehklz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States330 Posts
July 31 2011 23:36 GMT
#10284
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Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
July 31 2011 23:36 GMT
#10285
I hope Boxer takes it all in a Boxer vs MMA grand finals.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
July 31 2011 23:36 GMT
#10286
On August 01 2011 08:35 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 08:33 NotSorry wrote:
Where did people get this idea that TvT is a coinflip?

nobody thinks tvt is a coinflip

i'm pretty sure the people that hate tvts are the terrans, because of how long/frustrating/tiring/confusing/HARD tvt is

just like how zergs hate zvz and protoss hate pvp
i actually really enjoy tvt, as a protoss myself


There was probably 15-20 posts in the last 10pages or so calling tvt a coinflip, which is why I asked where people got this idea since it's so wrong
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-31 23:36:36
July 31 2011 23:36 GMT
#10287
Day 9/DJWheat are back on Red
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
July 31 2011 23:36 GMT
#10288
TvT is one of the most stable matchups out there, since both races have to get constant scv and unit production (instead of one or the other iow: a coinflip) and no lack of defender's advantage.

It basically means we're ensured a midgame.

People are just being really stupid thinking it's a bad mirror.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
July 31 2011 23:36 GMT
#10289
On August 01 2011 08:35 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 08:33 NotSorry wrote:
Where did people get this idea that TvT is a coinflip?

nobody thinks tvt is a coinflip

i'm pretty sure the people that hate tvts are the terrans, because of how long/frustrating/tiring/confusing/HARD tvt is

just like how zergs hate zvz and protoss hate pvp
i actually really enjoy tvt, as a protoss myself

? I love pvp
It appears I have been chosen.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
July 31 2011 23:36 GMT
#10290
On August 01 2011 08:35 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 08:33 MCDayC wrote:
On August 01 2011 08:26 Zinthar wrote:
On August 01 2011 08:23 Chicane wrote:
On August 01 2011 08:20 HolyArrow wrote:
DRG loses to MVP and MMA, suddenly he's overrated. LOL, people really have no idea what they're talking about. DRG may be Code B, but he clearly exhibits play capable of hanging with Code S-caliber players.


I don't see anyone saying he isn't Code S quality, but people treating him like a god when he has similar results to MMA makes him overrated (not because of the comparison to MMA, but because he is treated like the best player in the world when he's not)

Yes he is a VERY solid player who has a lot of potential... I don't see anyone denying that.


He's treated as a top 5 zerg player in the world, because he probably is.

Terrans make up over 50% of Code S, so it's hard to say whether MMA is similarly in the highest echelon of them (he probably is) because there's Bomber, Mvp, Byun, Clide, MKP, sC, Ryung, etc. etc.

This. MMA and DRG are about equal. But because there are about a billion incredible Terran players in Korea, and Zerg have a few (ridiculously) good top tier players, DRG gets all the attention. For me, in Zerg rankings it goes Nestea, who is a long way above Losira, who is a long way above DRG.


DRG isn't overrated so to speak, just a bit overhyped up for this tournament. MMA and DRG from what I've seen are pretty much equal in skill. MVP is just a whole step above DRG, but that's a given granted he's a 2 time gsl champ.


Overrated and overhyped are pretty much synonymous. Either way, I just hope people stop treating him like a god, and start treating him like a really good up and coming zerg with a lot of potential.
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
July 31 2011 23:36 GMT
#10291
On August 01 2011 08:30 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 08:26 Robinsa wrote:
I know djwheat and co says that bringing Koreans to the events does increase the competition but I'm not even going to watch an all korean Bo 4. MLG bringing in more and more Koreans every time is slowly ruining the event and by that foreign esport. Who benefits from people losing interest and all the money going to Korea?

Other then this I love MLG and the games where I can see my favorite players compete with great casting / production.

It has raised my interest in MLG. Quite frankly if they didn't invite Koreans, MLG would be falling behind. People want to see the best. Thats why they stay up to ridiculous hours to watch GSL. Thats why NASL had 80,000 viewers for Puma vs MC. Its why DreamHack invited Koreans. They elevate the level of competition and give the best games.

IPL is boring to me now. I love the production and casters and love the foreign players, but its just not the same. I would say IPL is losing more interest than MLG.

Oh and MLG didn't bring any more Korean players over, other Koreans just decided to come over for Anaheim.

Ok. I guess people have different preferences. I love MLG and always watch everything and I don't watch GSL at all since I'm not interested in the Korean community.

I might be wrong on this but doesnt Koreans get their qualifying spot from previous events plus the 4 GSL invites effecively increasing the number by 4 every event since they always get top placements?
4649!!
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 31 2011 23:36 GMT
#10292
On August 01 2011 08:35 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 08:33 MCDayC wrote:
On August 01 2011 08:26 Zinthar wrote:
On August 01 2011 08:23 Chicane wrote:
On August 01 2011 08:20 HolyArrow wrote:
DRG loses to MVP and MMA, suddenly he's overrated. LOL, people really have no idea what they're talking about. DRG may be Code B, but he clearly exhibits play capable of hanging with Code S-caliber players.


I don't see anyone saying he isn't Code S quality, but people treating him like a god when he has similar results to MMA makes him overrated (not because of the comparison to MMA, but because he is treated like the best player in the world when he's not)

Yes he is a VERY solid player who has a lot of potential... I don't see anyone denying that.


He's treated as a top 5 zerg player in the world, because he probably is.

Terrans make up over 50% of Code S, so it's hard to say whether MMA is similarly in the highest echelon of them (he probably is) because there's Bomber, Mvp, Byun, Clide, MKP, sC, Ryung, etc. etc.

This. MMA and DRG are about equal. But because there are about a billion incredible Terran players in Korea, and Zerg have a few (ridiculously) good top tier players, DRG gets all the attention. For me, in Zerg rankings it goes Nestea, who is a long way above Losira, who is a long way above DRG.


DRG isn't overrated so to speak, just a bit overhyped up for this tournament. MMA and DRG from what I've seen are pretty much equal in skill. MVP is just a whole step above DRG, but that's a given granted he's a 2 time gsl champ.

I think what tips it is the current metagame and the fact that there are so many Terrans with good skill working together to come up with crazy inventive shit.
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
July 31 2011 23:36 GMT
#10293
My ears just exploded
TheLast
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany59 Posts
July 31 2011 23:36 GMT
#10294
Oh shit Boxer vs. MVP.
Guess no work tomorrow 8)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 31 2011 23:36 GMT
#10295
On August 01 2011 08:36 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 08:35 youngminii wrote:
On August 01 2011 08:33 NotSorry wrote:
Where did people get this idea that TvT is a coinflip?

nobody thinks tvt is a coinflip

i'm pretty sure the people that hate tvts are the terrans, because of how long/frustrating/tiring/confusing/HARD tvt is

just like how zergs hate zvz and protoss hate pvp
i actually really enjoy tvt, as a protoss myself

? I love pvp


Tyler love PvP
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
July 31 2011 23:37 GMT
#10296
On August 01 2011 08:33 Jyvblamo wrote:
Hahaha @ Incontrol and Machine still being seeded into pools for Raleigh. Drewbie too, if someone from the top 16 doesn't go.


?!

Why would Inc + Machine be seeded that high when they've both failed miserably, to the point of being completely outclassed, in two entire MLG events? Doesn't seem fair to the rest of the players just below on ranking points. The pools should have the top 20 skilled players in, its pretty boring when a player is there who just goes 0-5 every time.
Elasticity
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
3420 Posts
July 31 2011 23:37 GMT
#10297
lol cut Day9 ftw
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
July 31 2011 23:37 GMT
#10298
ROFL did Day9 just get cut?
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 31 2011 23:37 GMT
#10299
WTF?
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Weemoed
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands741 Posts
July 31 2011 23:37 GMT
#10300
Does someone has (or knows) an overview about how well each clan currently does in this MLG?
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