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Alright, its truly time to stop whining. Stop caster bashing also. Be warned.
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
July 31 2011 00:36 GMT
#6801
Whitera's opponent is awesome already
Ladnil
Profile Joined July 2011
United States93 Posts
July 31 2011 00:37 GMT
#6802
On July 31 2011 09:33 Kh0nsu wrote:
Huge props to the guy playing White-Ra

- Gimix said to White-Ra, "let's do this the right way."

He then proceeded to throw all his SCVs at White-Ra in the first game, and then in the second game. Obviously, he lost both games. The series is now back even at 2-2 and has essentially been reset. -

Showing MLG that the extended series after a forfeit is ludicrous and completely defeats the notion of " the player who won the first set deserves to be ahead in a rematch".

It's less about "the player who won the first set deserves to be ahead in a rematch" than it is about preventing situations where you can be eliminated by a person you were actually ahead of in head to head games. If you 2-0 him the first time you meet, then he 2-1s you in the rematch, you beat him overall 3-2 but still got knocked out by him. The rule makes complete sense to me.
Have a nice day.
BaLoO-
Profile Joined January 2011
France318 Posts
July 31 2011 00:37 GMT
#6803
ToD kicked Optikzero out.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
July 31 2011 00:37 GMT
#6804
On July 31 2011 09:35 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 09:32 stlh2opolo wrote:
Incredible story coming out of the Open Bracket: Epgimix, the player who White-Ra DQ'd to yesterday, is playing him now. Before the start of the first game, in the pregame chat, Gimix said to White-Ra, "let's do this the right way."

He then proceeded to throw all his SCVs at White-Ra in the first game, and then in the second game. Obviously, he lost both games. The series is now back even at 2-2 and has essentially been reset.

Incredible manner and sportsmanship from Gimix.



gonna quote this hero spotted


What, that's so classy!

Much respect.
SoraLimit
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada747 Posts
July 31 2011 00:37 GMT
#6805
On July 31 2011 09:35 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 09:32 stlh2opolo wrote:
Incredible story coming out of the Open Bracket: Epgimix, the player who White-Ra DQ'd to yesterday, is playing him now. Before the start of the first game, in the pregame chat, Gimix said to White-Ra, "let's do this the right way."

He then proceeded to throw all his SCVs at White-Ra in the first game, and then in the second game. Obviously, he lost both games. The series is now back even at 2-2 and has essentially been reset.

Incredible manner and sportsmanship from Gimix.



gonna quote this hero spotted


Fuck, this is the most honorable epic way to play. Props to Epgimix for that.
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
July 31 2011 00:37 GMT
#6806
lol mr bitter, he makes some pretty bad calls

"kiwi in so much trouble"

"hmm nevermind, kiwi in a tremendous position"

lol
byah!
cENTRYZ
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway832 Posts
July 31 2011 00:37 GMT
#6807
On July 31 2011 09:35 sjschmidt93 wrote:
Nice from that guy.. but if I was him I'd rather lose to White-ra 4 times than 2 times O.O

nah, now he is a hero forever, which he wouldnt be if he played up straight and loss
Morta
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany557 Posts
July 31 2011 00:37 GMT
#6808
Infinite internet fame to you Gimix.

So manner.
if i'am sad i stop being sad and play starcraft 2 instead.True Story.
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
July 31 2011 00:37 GMT
#6809
MVP 2-0ed Machine. Upset of the tourney.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 31 2011 00:37 GMT
#6810
Kiwi is miles ahead.
I had a good night of sleep.
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
July 31 2011 00:37 GMT
#6811
I think Korea just won MLG...a month in Korea and FXO is ravaging everyone
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
July 31 2011 00:37 GMT
#6812
On July 31 2011 09:37 BaLoO- wrote:
ToD kicked Optikzero out.

Tod showing off his skills. I really hope he goes far =] and that he goes to Korea!
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flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
July 31 2011 00:37 GMT
#6813
On July 31 2011 09:34 DarQraven wrote:
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On July 31 2011 09:30 flowSthead wrote:
On July 31 2011 09:28 Mordiford wrote:
I feel like MLG definitely needs to take a look at their rules and perhaps consider revising them.

It's absolutely ridiculous to be disqualified and then be at a game disadvantage against the player who you were disqualified against. I always thought the point of tournament rules was to maintain fairness for the players but I don't see how this is fair at all.


Let's say player X wasn't just late, but just completely blew off the game and forfeited that match. Then met up again in the loser's bracket. Why should he get to start off even? How is that more fair?


Because it doesn't make sense. Not only does the forfeit drop them into loser's bracket, it also affects further matches? What, should Whitera just start 2-0 against all his further opponents then? At next MLG too? Where does the arbitrary punishment for a forfeit stop?

It's pretty simple: extended series exists so that players that are obviously superior to another player stand less of a risk of being eliminated through a fluke (cheese, etc) if they meet again. In this case, none of that is applicable since they haven't played before and as such, it is impossible to determine who is the better player. For all we know Whitera could be the better played that would have absolutely stomped the other guy if they'd played, and now extended series is doing the exact opposite of its job by making it harder for the better player to advance.


It's not about the better player, but promoting the player who won, which should be the better player. If the other player won, whether through games or forfeit, then he should retain an advantage. And the punishment isn't arbitrary, it is applied every time two players who played, play again.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
July 31 2011 00:38 GMT
#6814
Kiwi snipes both medivacs!
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
Triscuit
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States722 Posts
July 31 2011 00:38 GMT
#6815
On July 31 2011 09:35 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 09:32 stlh2opolo wrote:
Incredible story coming out of the Open Bracket: Epgimix, the player who White-Ra DQ'd to yesterday, is playing him now. Before the start of the first game, in the pregame chat, Gimix said to White-Ra, "let's do this the right way."

He then proceeded to throw all his SCVs at White-Ra in the first game, and then in the second game. Obviously, he lost both games. The series is now back even at 2-2 and has essentially been reset.

Incredible manner and sportsmanship from Gimix.



gonna quote this hero spotted


Wow, I just got tight in my chest. That dude's certainly a hero.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
July 31 2011 00:38 GMT
#6816
On July 31 2011 09:36 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 09:35 youngminii wrote:
On July 31 2011 09:34 youngminii wrote:
On July 31 2011 09:32 youngminii wrote:
On July 31 2011 09:31 youngminii wrote:
On July 31 2011 09:29 youngminii wrote:
On July 31 2011 09:28 youngminii wrote:
Kiwikaki 0-1 Moonan

Game 2
Kiwikaki @ 2 o'clock
Moonan @ 8 o'clock

3:30
Moonan with the gasless expand. Kiwikaki knows Moonan is gasless and is on one gas himself.

5:30
Kiwikaki takes his own expansion as Moonan finishes. Pokes Moonan's ramp with a Zealot and a Stalker and only sees a bunch of Marines.

7:30
Moonan lands his expansion just as Kiwikaki gets his expansion up. Kiwikaki gets a few free Marine kills with Stalker micro. Kiwikaki making Cannons in his mineral lines?

10:00
Moonan up to Medivac production with Stim finishing. Kiwikaki breaking the rocks at his Gold and starting Charge while +1 Armour finishes. Moonan moving across the map with a pesky MM force.

11:30
Kiwikaki starts a Dark Shrine and Moonan gets on the defensive with 5 Bunkers in total. He also drops Kiwikaki's main and taking out a ton of units as Kiwikaki attacks Moonan's Bunker line.

13:00
A base trade scenario has begun as Kiwikaki's production facilities are unpowered. Moonan loses his natural but keeps everything in his main. Kiwikaki's bases are both ruined.

15:30
So apparently Kiwikaki is way ahead on Probes and just powers up his buildings again. He takes his Gold while Moonan just starts taking his natural. Kiwikaki hanging around the Watchtower with Zealots and Sentries while leaving 5 Stalkers in his base that destroys a 2 Medivac drop.
lalala
sunman1g
Profile Joined May 2011
United States334 Posts
July 31 2011 00:38 GMT
#6817
as soon as I saw Kiwi picking shattered temple I KNEW he was gonna do 2-base 6gate zealot-sentry all in :D I've seen him do it so many times on this map... moonan did the wrong choice to drop Im sure if he went back and had ALL those units at home + 5 bunkers and meds he would have hold AND won the game easily. silly mistake oh well
Soulish
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1403 Posts
July 31 2011 00:38 GMT
#6818
silly husky, kiwikaki wasnt using starsense, one of his units was killed by medivac dropping stuff on it.
me all in, he drone drone drone, me win
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
July 31 2011 00:38 GMT
#6819
Yes Kiwi! It didn't look too good a few minutes ago, but he's owning now!
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
July 31 2011 00:38 GMT
#6820
ToD continues to advance, by beating Optikzero 2-0
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