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Alright, its truly time to stop whining. Stop caster bashing also. Be warned.
Flanq
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom2694 Posts
July 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#3081
On July 31 2011 05:34 Meancookie wrote:
WHO IS BETTER

MILKIS OR JOHN?

don't forget, john has yugioh powers!!


John's a yugioh bonjwa, so...
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#3082
Avenge the chin tyler! DO IT!
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Yubel
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada48 Posts
July 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#3083
I didnt think Koreans were manner. Way to represent your country Choya!
As soon as I learn to control group my army I can get to masters with the coveted 1a strategy I've heard so much about!
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
July 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#3084
On July 31 2011 05:33 flowSthead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 05:28 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
*Sigh*, non-protoss players everywhere feel Jinro's pain. Stupid DTs.

On July 31 2011 05:24 mikyaJ wrote:
If Jinro had beaten Choya with a Banshee FE because Choya had no detection due to not scouting it, people would be fine. So biased, it's pathetic really, and I hate Protoss.


Cloaked banshees are nowhere comparable to DTs.
DTs have unlimited cloak, banshees do not.
DTs start with cloak, banshees need them researched.
DTs kill workers in one shot, banshees in two.
DTs are produced by the very beginning production building, making higher number production [like 3 at once to split everywhere] far easier than starport production of banshees.

I'm not saying anything about overall game balance, but it's just absurd to put banshees on the same level.


Terran has scan earlier on, while Protoss needs Robo and observer or cannons.
Gateway, Cyber Core, Twilight, Dark Shrine vs Barracks, Factory, Starport with Tech Lab.
Banshees can be repaired, DTs die in 2 seconds.
Banshees can run away, DTs once found are dead.

I can do this too. What's your point?

So you are saying you never seen terran have to scan twice to kill a single DT or have never seen them escape?
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#3085
On July 31 2011 05:34 megapants wrote:
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On July 31 2011 05:29 Ryuu2 wrote:
On July 31 2011 05:26 mango_destroyer wrote:
On July 31 2011 05:25 Ryuu2 wrote:
On July 31 2011 05:22 Fionn wrote:
Still don't know how that was cheese or an all-in.

If the DT's failed? A setback for Choya, but he could transition into a very normal game. Jinro just played that wrong. Stop bashing Choya for something Jinro should have scouted/been prepared for.

The reason why Choyas build sucks: Its fucking unsafe. He would've died to ANYTHING except for what jinro ended up doing. Choya just threw a dice and he got extremely lucky and won.


LOL please go play the game.

NO ENGY BAY NO SCANS is safe?! Jinro played extremely risky and greedy and payed for it. He didnt even scout it.

Choyas build would've died to: 2rax pressure, 3rax, 4rax allin (obv), cloaked banshees etc. Choya PRAYED that jinro wouldn't do any of that and won.

people are excusing the fact that Choya scouted 1 rax no gas like right at the beginning of the game rofl. so the only risk he took was dying to a hidden rax, which he was pretty sure Jinro wouldn't risk in the last game of the series. EZ

Also cause Jinro has built a reputation of rarely cheesing.
And then Choya got in and saw the expand and was completely safe.
Moonwrath
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States9568 Posts
July 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#3086
On July 31 2011 05:34 Meancookie wrote:
WHO IS BETTER

MILKIS OR JOHN?

don't forget, john has yugioh powers!!

John = baller
Milkis = cutie
화이탱!! @moonsoshi9
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#3087
I'm sorry but could MLG please provide a locker for Milkis. Why does that poor guy has to carry around a backpack the whole day?!
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 20:35:57
July 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#3088
On July 31 2011 05:34 DystopiaX wrote:
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On July 31 2011 05:33 PHC wrote:
On July 31 2011 05:27 Synwave wrote:
Why is FXOboss stepping into this? Just asking, I have alot of respect for fxo's business sense but talking shit in a foreign language on tl? Im just confused.
Do I need google translate to understand wisdom or foolishness?
DJWheat moderate!


Because he's defending his friend and fellow teammate who has absolutely no reason to get hated on? The Choya hate here is completely unwarranted and you know it. Don't blame Choya for Jinro's mistakes. I love Jinro as much as the next guy, but he made mistakes that lost him the games.

I think anyone that beats Jinro in a tourney is going to get hate for it, he's too well loved.

Especially since he's not been performing so well, everyone hoping and praying he comes and kicks ass this MLG.
Zaxro
Profile Joined November 2009
United States261 Posts
July 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#3089
On July 31 2011 05:24 Zinthar wrote:
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On July 31 2011 05:21 Hybris wrote:

No... it wasn't all in. How would Jinro have pushed across the map if he had no scans. It would have taken him at least 3 scans to get across the map and even more than that to kill the nexus... Totally impossible to save that many without getting behing.


The DT's aren't free -- you trade 125/125 to make your opponent lose 270 minerals, which isn't exactly a favorable trade for Protoss. If you can get a marine kill on the way then maybe that tilts the balance into your favor, but you still had to build that expensive Dark Shrine in the first place, so it's probably still not worth it. DT's are only cost effective if you get free kills with them.

Except your analysis ignores all of the turrets your opponent has to put up after he sees those DTs and all of the map control you gain from the DTs
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
July 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#3090
bwahahaha choya, in interview: "I think the best player will win". Sorry choya, when your playing games, that isn't always true.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
peeeky
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada631 Posts
July 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#3091
Go Tyler! I hope he destroys him 2-0.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-30 20:38:33
July 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#3092
On July 31 2011 05:30 Jibba wrote:
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On July 31 2011 05:26 Talin wrote:
On July 31 2011 05:24 brutality wrote:
On July 31 2011 05:19 Talin wrote:
On July 31 2011 05:18 Whole wrote:
Why are people calling a DT expand cheese?


Because it wasn't a DT expand.


It kindof was lol

Choya didn't need much of an army b/c he scouted gasless expand. If Jinro would have thrown down 3 more barracks and pulled all scv's then it would have been a successful mindgame cheese. So all Choya's build was was a greedy expand into harrass b/c he took a good guess what Jinro was doing.


The point is that Jinro could have had Turrets up in time with his build, which makes choya's choice all in and cheese (because he had no way of knowing whether Jinro will be safe or not).

It's not. Even if they do no damage, the DTs turn into archons which become the core of your army.


He had one Gateway production initially, one Stalker and 3 DTs iirc, Archons or no Archons there's just not enough production behind it to make it safe. If DTs did no damage (and Jinro actually saw them, which you'd expect from a progamer), closing that game would be fairly trivial for Jinro.

Again, I'd love to see anyone who thinks this build was a "DT expand" show me a high level replay (or preferably several) where a DT expand looks even slightly similar to what choya did and it transitions into a normal midgame.
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
July 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#3093
fou Choya and FXOqxc combined powers to become FXOChoya
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
July 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#3094
On July 31 2011 05:35 Vertical wrote:
choya = bandana toss ?

Its an FXO thing, qxc is just too cool to not imitate.
Shagg
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland825 Posts
July 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#3095
On July 31 2011 05:34 Meancookie wrote:
WHO IS BETTER

MILKIS OR JOHN?

don't forget, john has yugioh powers!!

Obviously John has his imba trap cards rdy so Milkis has no chance!
"You're a pro or you're a noob. That's life"
Dumboprime
Profile Joined March 2011
985 Posts
July 30 2011 20:35 GMT
#3096
tyler fighting lets go
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22258 Posts
July 30 2011 20:36 GMT
#3097
On July 31 2011 05:35 TheKefka wrote:
I can picture the mods all siting together in front off a big screen watching MLG and debating who should get up to start banning people and go get some more beer from the fridge.


It's called multitasking son, we can do it all.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 30 2011 20:36 GMT
#3098
On July 31 2011 05:34 Hybris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2011 05:28 Denzil wrote:
On July 31 2011 05:27 Hybris wrote:
On July 31 2011 05:24 adeptz wrote:
Calling it here first.

Incontrol loses and writes an essay as a gg statement for Boxer.

ROFL. My thoughts exactly. Love how he smiles and looks pretty for the camera... So hypocritical


Are you telling me you wouldn't if you got to play against Boxer?

Oh I definately would, but he is completely different on the internet and on the forums than he is in real life. The guy is a two faced prick. Wake up.



your not...... talking about boxer.

Right?
twitch.tv/medrea
ticktack
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates874 Posts
July 30 2011 20:36 GMT
#3099
Tyler Vs Choya.. GO TYLER.. WOOOT!!! I prefer that over Jinro vs Tyler anyways.
A winner is just a loser who got pissed off and tried harder
SgtPepper
Profile Joined November 2010
United States568 Posts
July 30 2011 20:36 GMT
#3100
I just can't make myself excited about Tyler winning because I know if he wins he advances to the ultimate team kill pool against TLO, Haypro, and Huk (not to mention DRG).
"After I reconquer Ba Sing Se, I'm going to reconquer my tea shop! And I'm going to play Pai Sho every day."
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