EPT[GSL] July Code S SemiFinals - Page 141
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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Gackt_
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On July 25 2011 21:24 jdreamer wrote: ZvZ is worse than PvP. TvT is still the best mirror matchup. I think I'll just skip the finals matches and check on the result in the night.. disappointing.. thats Im used to do with all the TvT matches on the GSL. And there is an insane amount of TvT in GSL and GSTL. Im excited with some ZvZ coming up. | ||
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moltenlead
Canada866 Posts
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BandonBanshee
Canada437 Posts
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
On July 25 2011 21:04 Xeanrot wrote: I rarely whine about balance but final with 2 zergs who both won 3-0 in semi... I think Losira and Nestea are better player than Byun or Hongun but still 3-0. I really think we need nerf for zerg Did you saw the games? Their opponents got outplayed because both NesTea and Losira are the superior players. Races have nothing to do with it. You have to wonder how did someone like HongUn got so far in the first place. He even admitted that he doesn't practice much. Byun lost 2-4 vs TanDongho not long ago. His TvZ is simply bad and lost on his mistakes and not because Z>T. If you want to talk about balance, have a look at the current state of Korean GrandMaster: http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks/kr | ||
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Sandermatt
Switzerland1365 Posts
On July 25 2011 21:24 jdreamer wrote: ZvZ is worse than PvP. TvT is still the best mirror matchup. I think I'll just skip the finals matches and check on the result in the night.. disappointing.. I really like ZvZ and PvP, however I cannot stand TvT. I do not think I watched one TvT GSL finals yet. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On July 25 2011 21:16 Heavenly wrote: How can you make the claim that Losira is actually a better player than Byun though? If zerg is imbalanced then how could you consider any member of that race to be "the best in the world"? Obviously imbalance didn't come into play at all in these games since Byun got way too behind in the early game in game 1 and got all-inned game 3 but you still can't act like Losira is objectively better than Byun. I'd consider Byun a good deal better in TvZ than Losira is in ZvT just because he doesn't recklessly through away units for no reason and a-move. The thing that won him the second game was the map allowing for the counter attack so Byun could basically never move out without that happening (stupid map design) and baneling bombs (stupid game design where a lucky placement can kill a ton of units and change the game around completely, but I guess reavers and spider mines were similar and BW was still fine). Except byun did throw units away in games 1 and 2 which put him behind. The thing is though that Losira doesn't throw away units when it matters. I think we saw clearly superior decision making by Losira in all 3 of those games, and it got him a 3-0. Once Byun actually wins a series against a zerg let me know, but in the mean time Losira has gotten this far by beating TOP, marineking, and now byun. And really? Complaining about map architecture for XNF? I guess steppes of war would be a balanced map in your eyes.. | ||
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AimlessAmoeba
Canada704 Posts
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PDizzle
Denmark1754 Posts
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AimlessAmoeba
Canada704 Posts
Is there really any doubt that Nestea will win at this point? What are the odds, 80/20? | ||
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Zealot Lord
Hong Kong748 Posts
On July 25 2011 21:20 tomatriedes wrote: For all the 'zerg is OP' whiners consider this- these semi-finals could have been very different if MC and Bomber had made it through instead of Hongun and Byun. I know TvZ isn't Bomber's best match up but a player of his skill would still have put up a better fight than this. nah I doubt it, before heading into this match I think most people would agree that Byun's TvZ is better than Bombers TvZ. and while MC would obviously have given a better fight than Hongun - I personally don't see him winning more than a game. Considering how close he was to getting 3-1'ed by Sen in NASL, with Nestea being a full level above Sen, the series probably wouldn't be as close as to what people expect imo. There's a reason why Nestea has an absurd win rate against protoss and that he said he was ultra confident he can beat MC. its precisely because he's pretty much fully figured out the capabilities of protoss at each given stage of the game, and it shows. people can brush it off saying Hongun played terrible, but that really wasn't the case. hongun actually played a very solid first two games, its more that Nestea made him LOOK bad as opposed to him being bad. | ||
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
On July 25 2011 21:24 jdreamer wrote: ZvZ is worse than PvP. TvT is still the best mirror matchup. I think I'll just skip the finals matches and check on the result in the night.. disappointing.. also with MLG on, who needs it | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
and like what some have brought up already I wouldn't expect the finals to be one-sided. They should know each other's play style very very well - could generate interesting results and let's face it, anything is a step up from the last GSL final. | ||
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
On July 25 2011 21:37 c0ldfusion wrote: OMG.. ZvZ final.. that's too awesome for words. and like what some have brought up already I wouldn't expect the finals to be one-sided. They should know each other's play style very very well - could generate interesting results and let's face it, anything is a step up from the last GSL final. To be honest I'm just expecting a repeat from Nestea vs Inca, just ZvZ this time. Is anyone honestly expecting Losira to take more then a single game? | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
On July 25 2011 21:38 Derez wrote: To be honest I'm just expecting a repeat from Nestea vs Inca, just ZvZ this time. Is anyone honestly expecting Losira to take more then a single game? Well they train together so i wouldn't be surprised if there were some epic mind games going on. It could be pretty exciting to see some fake outs :p Other than that Nestea should stomp :p | ||
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Samhax
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Eufouria
United Kingdom4425 Posts
On July 25 2011 21:41 bkrow wrote: Well they train together so i wouldn't be surprised if there were some epic mind games going on. It could be pretty exciting to see some fake outs :p Other than that Nestea should stomp :p You can't go into mind games with the man with 1000 IQ "Losira I calculate and 87.94% chance that you are droning right now." I wish Terran and Protoss would stop whining, the period of Zerg dominance is far too short to use as evidence of imbalance so we should wait. Also when Zerg players start whining again I want to be able to take the moral high ground as a Terran user and say we just got on with it and waited for another meta-game shuft, | ||
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caelym
United States6430 Posts
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