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Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
July 25 2011 12:27 GMT
#2801
The only Zergs that complain are the IdrA fan zergs. Since he whines so much about balance his followers do that and sadly he has a lot.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Gackt_
Profile Joined March 2010
335 Posts
July 25 2011 12:27 GMT
#2802
On July 25 2011 21:24 jdreamer wrote:
ZvZ is worse than PvP. TvT is still the best mirror matchup. I think I'll just skip the finals matches and check on the result in the night.. disappointing..


thats Im used to do with all the TvT matches on the GSL. And there is an insane amount of TvT in GSL and GSTL.

Im excited with some ZvZ coming up.
moltenlead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada866 Posts
July 25 2011 12:28 GMT
#2803
ZvZ finals. I probably won't stay up for that, will, probably only last for an hour of games.
BandonBanshee
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada437 Posts
July 25 2011 12:29 GMT
#2804
This is why I cant enjoy LR threads. EVERY race that wins is imba.....If you think this game is so broken why the fuck do you play it.
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
July 25 2011 12:29 GMT
#2805
On July 25 2011 21:04 Xeanrot wrote:
I rarely whine about balance but final with 2 zergs who both won 3-0 in semi... I think Losira and Nestea are better player than Byun or Hongun but still 3-0. I really think we need nerf for zerg


Did you saw the games? Their opponents got outplayed because both NesTea and Losira are the superior players. Races have nothing to do with it.

You have to wonder how did someone like HongUn got so far in the first place. He even admitted that he doesn't practice much.
Byun lost 2-4 vs TanDongho not long ago. His TvZ is simply bad and lost on his mistakes and not because Z>T.

If you want to talk about balance, have a look at the current state of Korean GrandMaster: http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks/kr
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
July 25 2011 12:30 GMT
#2806
On July 25 2011 21:24 jdreamer wrote:
ZvZ is worse than PvP. TvT is still the best mirror matchup. I think I'll just skip the finals matches and check on the result in the night.. disappointing..


I really like ZvZ and PvP, however I cannot stand TvT. I do not think I watched one TvT GSL finals yet.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 12:38:32
July 25 2011 12:33 GMT
#2807
On July 25 2011 21:16 Heavenly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 21:10 Serpico wrote:
On July 25 2011 21:06 setzer wrote:
On July 25 2011 21:00 Serpico wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:52 DrunkenTemplar wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:51 Beyonder wrote:
On July 25 2011 20:47 W2 wrote:
Both zergs 3-0 their opponents to reach ZvZ finals. Zerg is looking stronger than ever atm, much stronger than other two races when played well.


Shhhhhh, dont let Idra know :x


Yeah I really hope zerg crying stops for a while now, it was pretty unbearable after MC vs July finals

better players won each match, dont get the balance complaining.


People are angry most zerg users are giant hypocrites.

Zerg wins: "better player won, loser just played bad or didn't abuse"
Terran wins: "imba tanks, bunkers, marines"
Protoss wins: "lol forcefield imba, blink imba"

Even Idra whines along those lines most of the time.

Ok, but the better player should win and they did. Plus when one of them is the best player in the world you can't use them as an average example of anything because they're the best in the world and their standards are far above any normal player regardless of race. Ironically the late game broods--infestors never even occurred once in either matchup which is what most people complain about anyways.


How can you make the claim that Losira is actually a better player than Byun though? If zerg is imbalanced then how could you consider any member of that race to be "the best in the world"? Obviously imbalance didn't come into play at all in these games since Byun got way too behind in the early game in game 1 and got all-inned game 3 but you still can't act like Losira is objectively better than Byun. I'd consider Byun a good deal better in TvZ than Losira is in ZvT just because he doesn't recklessly through away units for no reason and a-move. The thing that won him the second game was the map allowing for the counter attack so Byun could basically never move out without that happening (stupid map design) and baneling bombs (stupid game design where a lucky placement can kill a ton of units and change the game around completely, but I guess reavers and spider mines were similar and BW was still fine).

Except byun did throw units away in games 1 and 2 which put him behind. The thing is though that Losira doesn't throw away units when it matters. I think we saw clearly superior decision making by Losira in all 3 of those games, and it got him a 3-0. Once Byun actually wins a series against a zerg let me know, but in the mean time Losira has gotten this far by beating TOP, marineking, and now byun.

And really? Complaining about map architecture for XNF? I guess steppes of war would be a balanced map in your eyes..
AimlessAmoeba
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 12:34:40
July 25 2011 12:33 GMT
#2808
*EDIT* oops
PDizzle
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark1754 Posts
July 25 2011 12:34 GMT
#2809
FUCK YEAH ZVZ FINALS
AimlessAmoeba
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-25 12:34:54
July 25 2011 12:34 GMT
#2810

Is there really any doubt that Nestea will win at this point? What are the odds, 80/20?
Zealot Lord
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong748 Posts
July 25 2011 12:34 GMT
#2811
On July 25 2011 21:20 tomatriedes wrote:
For all the 'zerg is OP' whiners consider this- these semi-finals could have been very different if MC and Bomber had made it through instead of Hongun and Byun. I know TvZ isn't Bomber's best match up but a player of his skill would still have put up a better fight than this.


nah I doubt it, before heading into this match I think most people would agree that Byun's TvZ is better than Bombers TvZ.

and while MC would obviously have given a better fight than Hongun - I personally don't see him winning more than a game. Considering how close he was to getting 3-1'ed by Sen in NASL, with Nestea being a full level above Sen, the series probably wouldn't be as close as to what people expect imo. There's a reason why Nestea has an absurd win rate against protoss and that he said he was ultra confident he can beat MC. its precisely because he's pretty much fully figured out the capabilities of protoss at each given stage of the game, and it shows. people can brush it off saying Hongun played terrible, but that really wasn't the case. hongun actually played a very solid first two games, its more that Nestea made him LOOK bad as opposed to him being bad.

L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 25 2011 12:35 GMT
#2812
On July 25 2011 21:24 jdreamer wrote:
ZvZ is worse than PvP. TvT is still the best mirror matchup. I think I'll just skip the finals matches and check on the result in the night.. disappointing..

also with MLG on, who needs it
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
July 25 2011 12:37 GMT
#2813
OMG.. ZvZ final.. that's too awesome for words.

and like what some have brought up already I wouldn't expect the finals to be one-sided. They should know each other's play style very very well - could generate interesting results and let's face it, anything is a step up from the last GSL final.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
July 25 2011 12:38 GMT
#2814
On July 25 2011 21:37 c0ldfusion wrote:
OMG.. ZvZ final.. that's too awesome for words.

and like what some have brought up already I wouldn't expect the finals to be one-sided. They should know each other's play style very very well - could generate interesting results and let's face it, anything is a step up from the last GSL final.


To be honest I'm just expecting a repeat from Nestea vs Inca, just ZvZ this time. Is anyone honestly expecting Losira to take more then a single game?
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
July 25 2011 12:41 GMT
#2815
On July 25 2011 21:38 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 21:37 c0ldfusion wrote:
OMG.. ZvZ final.. that's too awesome for words.

and like what some have brought up already I wouldn't expect the finals to be one-sided. They should know each other's play style very very well - could generate interesting results and let's face it, anything is a step up from the last GSL final.


To be honest I'm just expecting a repeat from Nestea vs Inca, just ZvZ this time. Is anyone honestly expecting Losira to take more then a single game?

Well they train together so i wouldn't be surprised if there were some epic mind games going on. It could be pretty exciting to see some fake outs :p

Other than that Nestea should stomp :p
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Samhax
Profile Joined August 2010
1054 Posts
July 25 2011 12:45 GMT
#2816
Losira ain't no joke in ZvZ and i think Nestea know that, don't underestimate him! I don't think it will be a walkover even if Nestea is clearly the favorite.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
July 25 2011 12:45 GMT
#2817
with so many people saying that the finals will get boring, they will get atleast one or two games on epic level.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
July 25 2011 12:48 GMT
#2818
On July 25 2011 21:41 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 21:38 Derez wrote:
On July 25 2011 21:37 c0ldfusion wrote:
OMG.. ZvZ final.. that's too awesome for words.

and like what some have brought up already I wouldn't expect the finals to be one-sided. They should know each other's play style very very well - could generate interesting results and let's face it, anything is a step up from the last GSL final.


To be honest I'm just expecting a repeat from Nestea vs Inca, just ZvZ this time. Is anyone honestly expecting Losira to take more then a single game?

Well they train together so i wouldn't be surprised if there were some epic mind games going on. It could be pretty exciting to see some fake outs :p

Other than that Nestea should stomp :p

You can't go into mind games with the man with 1000 IQ

"Losira I calculate and 87.94% chance that you are droning right now."

I wish Terran and Protoss would stop whining, the period of Zerg dominance is far too short to use as evidence of imbalance so we should wait.

Also when Zerg players start whining again I want to be able to take the moral high ground as a Terran user and say we just got on with it and waited for another meta-game shuft,
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
July 25 2011 12:49 GMT
#2819
Wow this is like Obiwan Kenobi vs Anakin Skywalker. Master vs apprentice, who will have the high ground advantage?
brentsen
Profile Joined November 2010
1252 Posts
July 25 2011 12:50 GMT
#2820
Come on, give it a chance. The finals can hardly get any more one sided (and partly boring) than what we have seen lately. There is enough time to complain after it's done.
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