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Escapist
Profile Joined July 2010
Portugal548 Posts
July 25 2011 11:00 GMT
#2021
Was just noticing that if Losira takes this series then both 1st and 2nd prize will go for team IM. Team ZeNEX deserves some of that pile of money for the evolution their players been going through.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 25 2011 11:00 GMT
#2022
On July 25 2011 19:59 Heavenly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 19:56 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On July 25 2011 19:54 Heavenly wrote:
Byun played so much better. :/ Stupid map.

not really, the openings were so favored for losira. also the map is heavily T favored


and yet, zerg wins on this all the time. Please explain how on a map where it is almost impossible to secure a third and keep all fronts defended, with terrain around the bases perfect for mutas, with counter attack paths everywhere, is bad for zerg just because SOME of the map is tight chokes when the rest of the map is wide open and perfect for zergling flanks. Look at the last series of Nestea v. Hongun, Hongun went for the third and Nestea just lol'd and went up to Hongun's natural from another path.

so funny, people STILL call this map t-favored. it's like a running joke of the lay report threads.

It's because tastosis said the map was bad for zerg every time for like the first 15 times the map was used. Now it has that reputation
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Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
July 25 2011 11:00 GMT
#2023
Anyone else hear some minor static in the stream?
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
July 25 2011 11:00 GMT
#2024
wtf...scv all in?
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
bo0
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium550 Posts
July 25 2011 11:00 GMT
#2025
On July 25 2011 19:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 19:58 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On July 25 2011 19:58 cilinder007 wrote:
On July 25 2011 19:56 L3g3nd_ wrote:
On July 25 2011 19:54 Heavenly wrote:
Byun played so much better. :/ Stupid map.

not really, the openings were so favored for losira. also the map is heavily T favored


no its not....

yes it is. theres chokes all over the map, which is terrible for ZvT, tanks are so good on this map

Mutas are amazing on crossfire, it's so hard for terran to secure a third


as a zerg player I have no problem admitting the map is slightly zerg favored tbh. The multiple attack paths just scream "COUNTERATTACK ME" for me the Terran :D
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
July 25 2011 11:00 GMT
#2026
well that's Terran for you.
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SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 25 2011 11:00 GMT
#2027
Losira has never lost a ZvZ series in televised matches, I don't think it would be 1-sided at all NesTea vs Losira, it would be a good ZvZ
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
July 25 2011 11:00 GMT
#2028
On July 25 2011 19:59 VirgilSC2 wrote:
Crossfire is only Terran favored if the Zerg is like gold league.


Nah, the gold league Zerg would still win probably.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
July 25 2011 11:00 GMT
#2029
I think xel naga fortress is a good terran map even though the stats dont say it =/
mutantmagnet
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3806 Posts
July 25 2011 11:00 GMT
#2030
On July 25 2011 19:55 Dreamer.T wrote:
It's just not possible for terran to come back after being so behind. Zerg's these days will capitalize on any advantage they get extremely well.

It would've been possible the way Losira was leveraging his advantage. If Byun had spent half his gas for Two Ravens and Two Thors he could've made his defensive positions that Losira kept attacking into into a one side slaughter fest.

Losira could still win by trying to circumvent the marine heavy army as he sniped tech but he seriously should've had Hive tech available with the lead he had.
DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
July 25 2011 11:00 GMT
#2031
ALLIN! I just love it to see zerg defend it. but right now it seems bad for Losira
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
July 25 2011 11:00 GMT
#2032
This is kind of weird.
Love is more fun than hate.
Escapist
Profile Joined July 2010
Portugal548 Posts
July 25 2011 11:01 GMT
#2033
Holy crap that is a lot of SCVs!
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TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
July 25 2011 11:01 GMT
#2034
This is actually a clever use of position.
Cackle™
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
July 25 2011 11:01 GMT
#2035
It's impressive how people are afraid of eveything which is a bit different! Crossifire is different from usual maps and it has nearly average wins/loss ratio between races, still all are complaining that it's imbalanced etc.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Robje
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands1044 Posts
July 25 2011 11:01 GMT
#2036
God I hate bunker rushes... marines are so insane in corners
Holy shit ziek leger
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
July 25 2011 11:01 GMT
#2037
I don't think people realize that if Byun went 2 rax on Crossfire he would have won immediately. And he should've done it blind, anyway, I think, regardless of seeing the gold base.
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
July 25 2011 11:01 GMT
#2038
This reminds me of MKP vs Nestea where he just repeatedly tried to cheese. Ah, good times.
Logic is Overrated
Umpteen
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom1570 Posts
July 25 2011 11:01 GMT
#2039
Byunusual opening, there.
The existence of a food chain is inescapable if we evolved unsupervised, and inexcusable otherwise.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 25 2011 11:01 GMT
#2040
when in doubt, 2rax!
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