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Pyre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1940 Posts
July 18 2011 09:37 GMT
#401
On July 18 2011 18:36 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 18:36 Pyre wrote:
Protoss needs like a rock paper scissors in this match up. Like a unit that owns stalkers but dies quickly to zealots.


Like the immortal?


like a early game immortal that gets warped in
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 18 2011 09:37 GMT
#402
On July 18 2011 18:34 Phyxx wrote:
Puzzle almost caught up, but tassadar had the BO advantage.


It was an even build. Everyone knows your opponent will 4 gate on this map so there is no build order advantage, maybe puzzle had a larger advantage as it was agressive 4 gate vs 3 stalker into defensive 4 gate.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
July 18 2011 09:37 GMT
#403
Very interesting games so far, but I hope we don't see 2 more 4gate rushes because that would make for a very anti-climactic final.
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
July 18 2011 09:37 GMT
#404
NSHoseo = Protoss!
You know what I'm talking about
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
July 18 2011 09:37 GMT
#405
On July 18 2011 18:32 Deathmanbob wrote:
for a 4 gate vs 4 gate that was damn good, so much micro


puzzle really should have won that. He had the bo advantage and showed better micro, but he chose bad targets at certain times and also didn't handle that proxy pylon/zealot bit very well. When it was clear tassadar would get a proxy pylon, he should have killed the weakened stalker and backed up to reinforcements. The proxy zealot also should have either gone straight after probes to weaken the aggression or else not been proxied and kept for defense; he probably didn't shift click probes because he was microing the main fight. Tassadar pretty much won after handling that 1 zealot and then forcing puzzle to pull probes, but his mismicro just dragged it on.
lbmaian
Profile Joined December 2010
United States689 Posts
July 18 2011 09:37 GMT
#406
On July 18 2011 18:35 Ker wrote:
What's wrong with you, guys? Such a micro intensive games, how can you not love it?
You would really rather watch a 40 min TvT where they each take a half of the map and can't move out of base because of a zillion sieged tanks everywhere? ffs


To answer your last question, yes.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 18 2011 09:38 GMT
#407
You definitely have to appreciate micro battles to enjoy PvP and ZvZ - Stalker/Zealot or Ling/Baneling/Roach. ZvZ's micro battles are more interesting to me though because of the dynamic that the Baneling adds to everything, not to mention that it's interesting to see when/if a player chooses to Larva Inject amidst all the fighting. However, I feel like PvP has the more interesting midgame, Blink/DT/Colossus/Archon/Void Ray compositions, compared to ZvZ which seems like it boils down to big Roach/Hydra balls with the possibility of Infestors thrown in.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 18 2011 09:38 GMT
#408
On July 18 2011 18:36 Pyre wrote:
Protoss needs like a rock paper scissors in this match up. Like a unit that owns stalkers but dies quickly to zealots.


Immortal says hi.


Or wait, are you trolling?
twitch.tv/medrea
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 18 2011 09:38 GMT
#409
On July 18 2011 18:37 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 18:35 Medrea wrote:
On July 18 2011 18:34 425kid wrote:
how do people downvote that game? sick micro wars


Lot of TL folks dont like to see attacking unless 3 bases are had by both sides.


Most of SC 2 so far has been early aggression, dont really care to see more.

Not even that, it just sucks to see a player lose because he didn't 4gate and his opponent did. Build order losses of any kind suck. Great micro but the deciding factor wasn't control, it was the fact that Tassadar decided to 4gate and puzzle didn't.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
July 18 2011 09:38 GMT
#410
People need to stop complaining. That was a good game, and 50x better than watching a player turtle up and get 4 bases without attacking for 20 minutes and end up losing the game after 1 battle.

Alive vs. Darkforce honestly made me feel like quitting sc2
Ansalem
Profile Joined November 2010
564 Posts
July 18 2011 09:38 GMT
#411
On July 18 2011 18:37 phyren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 18:32 Deathmanbob wrote:
for a 4 gate vs 4 gate that was damn good, so much micro


puzzle really should have won that. He had the bo advantage and showed better micro, but he chose bad targets at certain times and also didn't handle that proxy pylon/zealot bit very well. When it was clear tassadar would get a proxy pylon, he should have killed the weakened stalker and backed up to reinforcements. The proxy zealot also should have either gone straight after probes to weaken the aggression or else not been proxied and kept for defense; he probably didn't shift click probes because he was microing the main fight. Tassadar pretty much won after handling that 1 zealot and then forcing puzzle to pull probes, but his mismicro just dragged it on.


How is 3-stalker rush a BO advantage over 4-gate?
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
July 18 2011 09:38 GMT
#412
On July 18 2011 18:37 Pyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 18:36 shabby wrote:
On July 18 2011 18:36 Pyre wrote:
Protoss needs like a rock paper scissors in this match up. Like a unit that owns stalkers but dies quickly to zealots.


Like the immortal?


like a early game immortal that gets warped in

Well in alpha the immortal was a gateway unit, but Blizzard decided that was too imbalanced.

I want my T1.5 immortals back. :<
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
July 18 2011 09:38 GMT
#413
On July 18 2011 18:35 Ker wrote:
What's wrong with you, guys? Such a micro intensive games, how can you not love it?
You would really rather watch a 40 min TvT where they each take a half of the map and can't move out of base because of a zillion sieged tanks everywhere? ffs

This type of micro isn't really beautiful to watch sadly.
WriterMaru
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
July 18 2011 09:38 GMT
#414
Now only if the 4th map was Scrap Station... Then wed truly have 4 4 gates. Gogo tassadar!
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Pyre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1940 Posts
July 18 2011 09:38 GMT
#415
On July 18 2011 18:38 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 18:36 Pyre wrote:
Protoss needs like a rock paper scissors in this match up. Like a unit that owns stalkers but dies quickly to zealots.


Immortal says hi.


Or wait, are you trolling?


when do you have a chance to get a immortal in a 4 gate push? I mean something that could be warped in around the same time.
parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
July 18 2011 09:39 GMT
#416
HAHA hope god of PVP will save my LB
I)etox
Profile Joined April 2011
1240 Posts
July 18 2011 09:39 GMT
#417
On July 18 2011 18:36 Pyre wrote:
Protoss needs like a rock paper scissors in this match up. Like a unit that owns stalkers but dies quickly to zealots.


do you even know what you're suggesting o__O
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
July 18 2011 09:39 GMT
#418
Just hopped out for a bit and it's 2-0 already???

:o
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 18 2011 09:39 GMT
#419
So far I've been more intrigued by the commercials playing between matches.

The ones on the screen in the GOM studio.


PvPzZzZz
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 18 2011 09:39 GMT
#420
On July 18 2011 18:38 Pyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2011 18:38 Medrea wrote:
On July 18 2011 18:36 Pyre wrote:
Protoss needs like a rock paper scissors in this match up. Like a unit that owns stalkers but dies quickly to zealots.


Immortal says hi.


Or wait, are you trolling?


when do you have a chance to get a immortal in a 4 gate push? I mean something that could be warped in around the same time.


10 gate into robo. Check it out.
twitch.tv/medrea
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