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On July 12 2011 21:24 tdt wrote:
Top must be trying to wear Losira out. Worst GG timings.
Losira wasn't decisively going to kill TOP, so it's not like TOP was ever out of the match. All Losira needed to do was miscontrol the mutas and TOP would have been back in it.
In your esteemed estimation, when should have TOP gg'ed? After his hellions and banshee did next to no damage? He was behind from that moment, should he gg whilst Losira has 3 queens and 54 drones?
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On July 12 2011 21:25 clusen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 21:22 Mercury- wrote:
Does going into a macrogame like that ever actually work against Z at a high level? Yes? TOP needed a PF at the gold and should've switched to Ghosts earlier and he would#ve had a decent chance to win. Or look how MMA plays TvZ
True, Byun did it against Zenio a while back I believe. (not the group stage match)
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On July 12 2011 21:25 clusen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 21:22 Mercury- wrote:
Does going into a macrogame like that ever actually work against Z at a high level? Yes? TOP needed a PF at the gold and should've switched to Ghosts earlier and he would've had a decent chance to win. Or look how MMA plays TvZ
WTF is wrong with you??
MMA's playstyle is constant aggro.
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On July 12 2011 21:25 Hephaistas wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 21:24 Snowbear wrote:I don't see a possibility to win againt this broodlord infestor combo, unless the terran is much ahead. Ghost are okay but very expensive  But Broodlords and Infestors are cheap? lolll
No, they are not, but terran can not deal cost effective with broodlord + infestor. If the terran is not ahead, he will just lose the fight.
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On July 12 2011 21:25 lunchforthesky wrote:
lol @ people who said Losira was bad versus Terran.
I wouldn't say it was bad overall, just bad in comparison to how good his ZvP is. Clearly it's shown that he has fixed a few things up in this match up. Seems like he's swaying away from the roach baneling.
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Top was dead when his hellions got denied, and then banshees got denied, and Losira's third went down uncontested with a macro hatch. It's just that zergs can't finish an opponent they have a huge advantage over that makes it look such a one-sided game for so long.
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On July 12 2011 21:23 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 21:22 Mercury- wrote:
Does going into a macrogame like that ever actually work against Z at a high level? It does,  TOP beat  NesTea like that
Hardly...
Nestea took crippling early game blows against TOP when he lost.
The fact the games even went into macro mode was more about Nestea using his limited resources to the maxinium to even survive.
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I've already said it but air openings really seem to be an autolose vs topzerg, they defend it so cheaply nowadays.
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Losira is so handsome! <3 no homo
EDIT: should make a Losira's body thread! xD
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On July 12 2011 21:26 Mercury- wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 21:25 clusen wrote:On July 12 2011 21:22 Mercury- wrote:
Does going into a macrogame like that ever actually work against Z at a high level? Yes? TOP needed a PF at the gold and should've switched to Ghosts earlier and he would've had a decent chance to win. Or look how MMA plays TvZ WTF is wrong with you?? MMA's playstyle is constant aggro.
So? It works.
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On July 12 2011 21:24 Snowbear wrote:I don't see a possibility to win againt this broodlord infestor combo, unless the terran is much ahead. Ghost are okay but very expensive
200/100 is not expensive.
And they have snipe which is good against bio units. Which just so happen to be every single zerg unit and structure.
And they have EMP which is good against units with energy or shields, which just so happens to be every protoss unit and structure.
They are good!
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Game 2 TalDarim Altar TOP at 1 oclock Losira at 7 oclock
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On July 12 2011 21:25 Hephaistas wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 21:24 Snowbear wrote:I don't see a possibility to win againt this broodlord infestor combo, unless the terran is much ahead. Ghost are okay but very expensive But Broodlords and Infestors are cheap? lolll
Thats how I feel whenever I hear Ghosts are expensive.Sometimes you gotta tech and spend money yo.
GOGO TOP innovate beyond tank turret marine in game 2 :D
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The style LosirA used to use for ZvT was so bad, mass lings and banelings. He clearly had strong play so now that he seems to be using the much better muta ling baneling style he looks waaaaaay better. I predicted Top to win because he'd crush the normal style of LosirA but now I feel Top will lose.
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On July 12 2011 21:26 SafeAsCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 21:25 lunchforthesky wrote:
lol @ people who said Losira was bad versus Terran. He was. He had a retarded raoch/bane style. Now he is doing the superior ling/muta/bane into hive style that nestea and idra have been using forever.
That was never his problem. Losing half is shit to tanks before he even engaged and losing waaay too much to drops because he started his spire at 20 mins was 
If he is on the agressive side, no one can beat losira, but his defending used to be awful. He did well this game tho, the nestea spines helped a lot too
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Losira's girl looks like one of my friends
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On July 12 2011 21:27 Snowbear wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 21:25 Hephaistas wrote:On July 12 2011 21:24 Snowbear wrote:I don't see a possibility to win againt this broodlord infestor combo, unless the terran is much ahead. Ghost are okay but very expensive But Broodlords and Infestors are cheap? lolll No, they are not, but terran can not deal cost effective with broodlord + infestor. If the terran is not ahead, he will just lose the fight.
Ghosts are crazy cost effective.
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On July 12 2011 21:23 Daralii wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2011 21:22 eloist wrote:
Don't the broodlings get the melee attack upgrade and not flyer? The broods do an attack, and then the broodlings spawn. The initial attack benefits from flyer attack, the broodlings themselves benefit from melee attack/carapace once they're actually on the ground.
Thanks, I didn't know there was any direct damage actually.
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damn who is that chick who did losira's intro
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