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Moralez
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1857 Posts
July 10 2011 01:17 GMT
#9801
please july dont loose T_T
Master League Zerg - EGIdrA - IMNesTea - EGMachine - EGIncoNtrol - IMLosirA - Destiny - MVPDRG -
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 10 2011 01:17 GMT
#9802
On July 10 2011 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 10:16 Drazerk wrote:
Game Three starting on Xel'naga Caverns

In the top right is July

While in the bottom left is Puma


1:40

Barracks for Puma


2:00

Gas for Puma
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
July 10 2011 01:17 GMT
#9803
On July 10 2011 10:16 MassIncestor wrote:
see this is why Tastosis is lame.

PuMa did a beautiful fake out where he only showed 4 and microed them very meticulously, like they were his only ones and he wanted to keep them alive at all costs. July took the bait and made a lot of drones when he saw that.

Then PuMa retreats at the typical "ok enough hellion pressure let me take my expand" and July makes even more drones and a few lings.

Then PuMa suddenly shows up with >10 hellions and kills everything.

But do we get this kind of strategical analysis?

No, it's just

this is da lots of hellion build, herp derp


They don't do analysis. Im not trying to BM.

Im just saying, that is not an advertised feature.
twitch.tv/medrea
LDdota
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1465 Posts
July 10 2011 01:17 GMT
#9804
On July 10 2011 10:16 MassIncestor wrote:
see this is why Tastosis is lame.

PuMa did a beautiful fake out where he only showed 4 and microed them very meticulously, like they were his only ones and he wanted to keep them alive at all costs. July took the bait and made a lot of drones when he saw that.

Then PuMa retreats at the typical "ok enough hellion pressure let me take my expand" and July makes even more drones and a few lings.

Then PuMa suddenly shows up with >10 hellions and kills everything.

But do we get this kind of strategical analysis?

No, it's just

this is da lots of hellion build, herp derp


They described what happened exactly as you are talking about. You are either insane or not watching the same stream.
Klosetmonkey
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway208 Posts
July 10 2011 01:17 GMT
#9805
hellion opening third time not so smart. Puma is smart
Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3513 Posts
July 10 2011 01:17 GMT
#9806
On July 10 2011 10:16 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 10:15 TranceStorm wrote:
I imagine this build hasn't been all that popular on the ladder yet - it seems like no one really knows how to deal with it as well.


Get roaches and block ramp. July just doesn't get roaches in response. Some zergs like to get roaches in response so this build isn't really all that good.

Problem is it's hard to scout 1 reactor factory into banshee vs 2 reactor factory... roaches is also like autoloss vs cloak banshee...
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
July 10 2011 01:18 GMT
#9807
On July 10 2011 10:17 velocityqt wrote:
funny how somebody posted this 2reactoor hellion build on tl and everybody criticized him and said hes noob lol

Well, its not a good build, just a surprise build. Nothing really impressive to it.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
July 10 2011 01:18 GMT
#9808
On July 10 2011 10:16 MassIncestor wrote:
see this is why Tastosis is lame.

PuMa did a beautiful fake out where he only showed 4 and microed them very meticulously, like they were his only ones and he wanted to keep them alive at all costs. July took the bait and made a lot of drones when he saw that.

Then PuMa retreats at the typical "ok enough hellion pressure let me take my expand" and July makes even more drones and a few lings.

Then PuMa suddenly shows up with >10 hellions and kills everything.

But do we get this kind of strategical analysis?

No, it's just

this is da lots of hellion build, herp derp


Your over-analyzing something that isn't there. You don't need to micro 8-12 helions against 6-10lings.
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 10 2011 01:18 GMT
#9809
On July 10 2011 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 10:17 Drazerk wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:16 Drazerk wrote:
Game Three starting on Xel'naga Caverns

In the top right is July

While in the bottom left is Puma


1:40

Barracks for Puma


2:00

Gas for Puma


2:20

Hatchery first for July
EtohEtoh
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada669 Posts
July 10 2011 01:18 GMT
#9810
On July 10 2011 10:15 0ne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 10:13 Badfatpanda wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:12 0ne wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:11 MassIncestor wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:10 Olinim wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:09 Zane wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:08 ribboo wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:07 0ne wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:07 Telcontar wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:06 KimJongChill wrote:
Julyzerg, God of ZvT.

Sorry but I think that's DRG's title.

Who?

DongRaeGu

Is he a BW player? Never heard of him.

He's good but insanely overrated does really well in teamleague (if you're not sarcastic :D)


LOL DRG overrated

hahahaha

give me 2 better zergs

He's not even in the GSL. Calm down.


I thought he was code B

code B lol. I'm in code B too.


you're not at the top of the korean ladder lol
TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
July 10 2011 01:18 GMT
#9811
On July 10 2011 10:16 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 10:15 TranceStorm wrote:
I imagine this build hasn't been all that popular on the ladder yet - it seems like no one really knows how to deal with it as well.


Except for like.. what they just said.. roaches, spine crawlers or queens blocking the ramp.

Well yes, but you aren't expecting that many hellions in the first place. If you made roaches and the terran went starport then it would be difficult for the zerg.
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
July 10 2011 01:18 GMT
#9812
drone from july just manages to get in
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
July 10 2011 01:18 GMT
#9813
On July 10 2011 10:17 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 10:15 Medrea wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:13 Badfatpanda wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:12 0ne wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:11 MassIncestor wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:10 Olinim wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:09 Zane wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:08 ribboo wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:07 0ne wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:07 Telcontar wrote:
[quote]
Sorry but I think that's DRG's title.

Who?

DongRaeGu

Is he a BW player? Never heard of him.

He's good but insanely overrated does really well in teamleague (if you're not sarcastic :D)


LOL DRG overrated

hahahaha

give me 2 better zergs

He's not even in the GSL. Calm down.


I thought he was code B


Code B doesnt really exist, it is just the Korean GM ladder.


Not true. People who fall out of Code A and aren't in the GM ladder are still qualified for Code B.

There is no code B. Just Code A qualifiers
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
July 10 2011 01:18 GMT
#9814
Who won between MC and Select?
Fiel
Profile Joined March 2010
United States587 Posts
July 10 2011 01:18 GMT
#9815
It's not a final map. This is a Bo5.
MassIncestor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
743 Posts
July 10 2011 01:18 GMT
#9816
On July 10 2011 10:18 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 10:16 MassIncestor wrote:
see this is why Tastosis is lame.

PuMa did a beautiful fake out where he only showed 4 and microed them very meticulously, like they were his only ones and he wanted to keep them alive at all costs. July took the bait and made a lot of drones when he saw that.

Then PuMa retreats at the typical "ok enough hellion pressure let me take my expand" and July makes even more drones and a few lings.

Then PuMa suddenly shows up with >10 hellions and kills everything.

But do we get this kind of strategical analysis?

No, it's just

this is da lots of hellion build, herp derp


Your over-analyzing something that isn't there. You don't need to micro 8-12 helions against 6-10lings.


No I'm not over analyzing, this was exactly planned by PuMa as I described.
doihy
Profile Joined August 2010
668 Posts
July 10 2011 01:18 GMT
#9817
puma can't win a macro game
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
July 10 2011 01:18 GMT
#9818
I don't play Zerg (I play P, and BG is good for P) but Backwater should not be in a tournament map pool. And the maps should not be fixed for each round, there should be veto's, or at least losers picks. Just deciding to play maps seems really stupid.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Laboof
Profile Joined July 2010
United States113 Posts
July 10 2011 01:19 GMT
#9819
I feel like roaches with a spore + queens would be dandy vs both 2 reactor hellion and reactor hellion banshee, but I don't play either Zerg or Terran
nekuodah
Profile Joined August 2010
England2409 Posts
July 10 2011 01:19 GMT
#9820
On July 10 2011 10:18 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 10:17 Figgy wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:15 Medrea wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:13 Badfatpanda wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:12 0ne wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:11 MassIncestor wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:10 Olinim wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:09 Zane wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:08 ribboo wrote:
On July 10 2011 10:07 0ne wrote:
[quote]
Who?

DongRaeGu

Is he a BW player? Never heard of him.

He's good but insanely overrated does really well in teamleague (if you're not sarcastic :D)


LOL DRG overrated

hahahaha

give me 2 better zergs

He's not even in the GSL. Calm down.


I thought he was code B


Code B doesnt really exist, it is just the Korean GM ladder.


Not true. People who fall out of Code A and aren't in the GM ladder are still qualified for Code B.

There is no code B. Just Code A qualifiers


And if your korean and want to take part in code A qualifiers you have to be in GM (top 200) aka code b= gm korean ladder.
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