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cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
July 07 2011 10:23 GMT
#141
Poll: Will Catz take more games off Europe than Drewbie

No (48)
 
68%

Yes (23)
 
32%

71 total votes

Your vote: Will Catz take more games off Europe than Drewbie

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No



Will Catz's unorthodox play win him more games, or are EU players too solid for that.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Morrisson
Profile Joined May 2011
289 Posts
July 07 2011 10:31 GMT
#142
On July 07 2011 19:14 Lorizean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 19:13 dani` wrote:
On July 07 2011 18:26 Ocedic wrote:
So Europe continues to embarrass NA. Nothing new here.

I seriously wonder which NA player can consistently do well vs top EU players. KiWiKaKi (technically Canada), SeleCT (Korean), and IdrA definitely, but other than that? Sadface.

HuK, if he still counts.


Meh, we look at place of training here. HuK is Korean trained now. Idra spent 3 years in Korea.
For NA, maybe Major, kiwikaki, dde ?
Special Endrey
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1929 Posts
July 07 2011 10:37 GMT
#143
updated the OP with

-results,
-replays
-(spoiler free) VODs
-wordclouds! + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
This signature is ruining eSports - -Twitter: @SpecialEndrey
fer
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada375 Posts
July 07 2011 10:56 GMT
#144
Lol @ CatZ. Although I'm not worried, not one bit. He has stated he has "what it takes" to compete with dem koreanz np, so naturally he'll do quite well here.
WellPlayed.org <3
Rabbitmaster
Profile Joined August 2010
1357 Posts
July 07 2011 11:00 GMT
#145
On July 07 2011 19:37 Special Endrey wrote:
updated the OP with

-results,
-replays
-(spoiler free) VODs
-wordclouds! + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Sweet! Fell asleep after game 1, so much love for that.
God is dead.
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
July 07 2011 11:04 GMT
#146
On July 07 2011 19:37 Special Endrey wrote:
updated the OP with

-results,
-replays
-(spoiler free) VODs
-wordclouds! + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Quite surprised for not seeing no "f-word mech" on that wordcloud:p
FaRess
Profile Joined September 2010
Tunisia937 Posts
July 07 2011 11:53 GMT
#147
On July 07 2011 18:26 Ocedic wrote:
So Europe continues to embarrass NA. Nothing new here.


I don't agree with you, even in NA drewbie and CatZ don't do well in tournaments, guys like White Ra KaS or beastyqt do very well in both online and for some of them offline tournaments.

I just think they are on a different level, it's as simple as that, you can't compare NA and Europe in this case.

If it was Kiwikaki, Idra or Select it would make sense
YoloStar <3
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
July 07 2011 13:53 GMT
#148
On July 07 2011 20:53 FaRess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 18:26 Ocedic wrote:
So Europe continues to embarrass NA. Nothing new here.


I don't agree with you, even in NA drewbie and CatZ don't do well in tournaments, guys like White Ra KaS or beastyqt do very well in both online and for some of them offline tournaments.

I just think they are on a different level, it's as simple as that, you can't compare NA and Europe in this case.

If it was Kiwikaki, Idra or Select it would make sense

So NA has 3 players that they can send out, otherwise it cannot be compared?

Seems to me that's not a good sign either.
Rayjin
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany205 Posts
July 07 2011 14:50 GMT
#149
A game against Darkforce would be nice. I think they are on the same level.
mr freeze
Profile Joined June 2011
20 Posts
July 07 2011 14:53 GMT
#150
catz is overrated.
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
July 07 2011 14:55 GMT
#151
On July 07 2011 22:53 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 20:53 FaRess wrote:
On July 07 2011 18:26 Ocedic wrote:
So Europe continues to embarrass NA. Nothing new here.


I don't agree with you, even in NA drewbie and CatZ don't do well in tournaments, guys like White Ra KaS or beastyqt do very well in both online and for some of them offline tournaments.

I just think they are on a different level, it's as simple as that, you can't compare NA and Europe in this case.

If it was Kiwikaki, Idra or Select it would make sense

So NA has 3 players that they can send out, otherwise it cannot be compared?

Seems to me that's not a good sign either.

I would add Major, DDE and Sheth, but yeah EU has better players, satisfied now?
DailYLeet
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany827 Posts
July 07 2011 14:59 GMT
#152
On July 07 2011 19:31 Morrisson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 19:14 Lorizean wrote:
On July 07 2011 19:13 dani` wrote:
On July 07 2011 18:26 Ocedic wrote:
So Europe continues to embarrass NA. Nothing new here.

I seriously wonder which NA player can consistently do well vs top EU players. KiWiKaKi (technically Canada), SeleCT (Korean), and IdrA definitely, but other than that? Sadface.

HuK, if he still counts.


Meh, we look at place of training here. HuK is Korean trained now. Idra spent 3 years in Korea.
For NA, maybe Major, kiwikaki, dde ?


dde? no way

kiwikaki and major : yeah i think so
"King Goody spoke - you have to treat his words like gold , he is the wisest man , who ever crossed the EU server" - Cloud
dde
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada796 Posts
July 07 2011 18:44 GMT
#153
On July 07 2011 23:59 DailYLeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 19:31 Morrisson wrote:
On July 07 2011 19:14 Lorizean wrote:
On July 07 2011 19:13 dani` wrote:
On July 07 2011 18:26 Ocedic wrote:
So Europe continues to embarrass NA. Nothing new here.

I seriously wonder which NA player can consistently do well vs top EU players. KiWiKaKi (technically Canada), SeleCT (Korean), and IdrA definitely, but other than that? Sadface.

HuK, if he still counts.


Meh, we look at place of training here. HuK is Korean trained now. Idra spent 3 years in Korea.
For NA, maybe Major, kiwikaki, dde ?


dde? no way

kiwikaki and major : yeah i think so


yes i dont stand a chance
yes
Huragius
Profile Joined September 2010
Lithuania1506 Posts
July 07 2011 18:49 GMT
#154
On July 07 2011 23:50 Rayjin wrote:
A game against Darkforce would be nice. I think they are on the same level.


... No ? Darkforce is a monster, you should check his matches sometimes.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
July 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#155
On July 08 2011 03:44 dde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 23:59 DailYLeet wrote:
On July 07 2011 19:31 Morrisson wrote:
On July 07 2011 19:14 Lorizean wrote:
On July 07 2011 19:13 dani` wrote:
On July 07 2011 18:26 Ocedic wrote:
So Europe continues to embarrass NA. Nothing new here.

I seriously wonder which NA player can consistently do well vs top EU players. KiWiKaKi (technically Canada), SeleCT (Korean), and IdrA definitely, but other than that? Sadface.

HuK, if he still counts.


Meh, we look at place of training here. HuK is Korean trained now. Idra spent 3 years in Korea.
For NA, maybe Major, kiwikaki, dde ?


dde? no way

kiwikaki and major : yeah i think so


yes i dont stand a chance


let yo results speak for themselves man, no need to respond to uninformed noobs
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
deerpark87
Profile Joined January 2011
760 Posts
July 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#156
Why not get idra, kiwi or select to represent NA? This is embarrassing to us NAers.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
July 07 2011 18:57 GMT
#157
On July 08 2011 03:44 dde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 23:59 DailYLeet wrote:
On July 07 2011 19:31 Morrisson wrote:
On July 07 2011 19:14 Lorizean wrote:
On July 07 2011 19:13 dani` wrote:
On July 07 2011 18:26 Ocedic wrote:
So Europe continues to embarrass NA. Nothing new here.

I seriously wonder which NA player can consistently do well vs top EU players. KiWiKaKi (technically Canada), SeleCT (Korean), and IdrA definitely, but other than that? Sadface.

HuK, if he still counts.


Meh, we look at place of training here. HuK is Korean trained now. Idra spent 3 years in Korea.
For NA, maybe Major, kiwikaki, dde ?


dde? no way

kiwikaki and major : yeah i think so


yes i dont stand a chance


Well...

This is awkward.
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
July 07 2011 19:02 GMT
#158
On July 08 2011 03:57 deerpark87 wrote:
Why not get idra, kiwi or select to represent NA? This is embarrassing to us NAers.


Because they are not in the Clan complexity. The Clan complexity is making this showmatches as far as I understood.
Ocedic
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1808 Posts
July 07 2011 19:07 GMT
#159
On July 07 2011 20:53 FaRess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 18:26 Ocedic wrote:
So Europe continues to embarrass NA. Nothing new here.


I don't agree with you, even in NA drewbie and CatZ don't do well in tournaments, guys like White Ra KaS or beastyqt do very well in both online and for some of them offline tournaments.

I just think they are on a different level, it's as simple as that, you can't compare NA and Europe in this case.

If it was Kiwikaki, Idra or Select it would make sense


Either way I find it ironic that Catz talks about keeping those money-stealing Koreans out because of their 'superior infrastructure for gaming' when he can't even beat Europeans.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 07 2011 19:10 GMT
#160
SixJaxMajor could easily compete w/ any EU player right now

I would give DDE a good shot too based on some recent play, still gotta cement his propro position though.
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