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kethers
United States719 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15723 Posts
I miss the Idra from GSL. | ||
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Pwere
Canada1556 Posts
On July 24 2011 14:20 brain_ wrote: And now that infestors don't counter mutas as hard, there's also the random muta all-in you can lose to, plus roach/infestor fights all come down to a few key fungals...And ZvZ has been shittier for longer than both of them.  Seriously, ZvZ started out as Roach vs Roach, then evolved into Baneling wars. It hasn't changed since, except now you have to throw in Infestors. Maybe it could be fixed if we finally learned to use Nydus. On July 24 2011 14:29 kethers wrote: Small advantages don't end the game. While Sen's play was good, he basically went all-in every game and won. He didn't use "brillant tactics", Idra simply guessed wrong (or didn't care enough and went auto-pilot, but that's not relevant to thsi discussion).Personally I can appreciate high level ZvZ that is shown by Sen. Because it is a very thin and volatile matchup, you can see brilliant tactics being experimented and discovered to exploit small advantages here and there to give him the advantage. | ||
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damod
1106 Posts
On July 24 2011 14:15 GreyArrow wrote: Good job Sen!, can't help but feel slightly happy the EG lost today. EG lost ? they were rated the highest in this tournament. idra 2nd axlave 3rd demuslim 4th Machine 5th that a huge win imo. | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
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GenoZStriker
United States2914 Posts
On July 24 2011 14:23 Apollo_Shards wrote: I am really glad for verizon sponsoring sc2 tournies! And can anyone confirm the prizes? There were 43 players. So the prize pool should have been $860 and the $1000 guaranteed. Distribution is 60/30/10 so $1116/$558/$186 On July 24 2011 14:32 damod wrote: EG lost ? they were rated the highest in this tournament. idra 2nd axlave 3rd demuslim 4th lzgamer5th that a huge win imo. Yup. Pretty much. Might not be first place, but taking top placements is more than enough to be satisfied. But if you know why the people are commenting like they you'd understand. | ||
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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On July 24 2011 14:29 Mohdoo wrote: Good thing that EG makes Idra do dumb shit like random shows and casting. Clearly helping him improve and focus on his gaming. Oh wait, no. I really hope that EG stops using their players are celebrities and tries to lean them more towards being killing machines. They aren't keeping up. I miss the Idra from GSL. He 2-0ed Sen earlier in this tourney, right? And he beat everyone else there getting back into the finals where he then lost to the other best non-Korean zerg. I don't really see how this represents IdrA as being a bad player now in any capacity. Losing to Sen 3-2 overall is really not a big deal. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On July 24 2011 14:32 damod wrote: EG lost ? they were rated the highest in this tournament. idra 2nd axlave 3rd demuslim 4th lzgamer5th that a huge win imo. Great point, they did awesome at this event. Looking forward to MLG! | ||
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Quintum_
United States669 Posts
Still cant say who is the best foreign zerg is from this, seeing as both sen and idra can take series off each other. Plus ZvZ is so bad that the tiniest mistake can cost you a game. I would say idra is still the better macro player while Sen deals with early aggression a lot better then idra. Why can they just combine there talents and make one super zerg player. Or at least another super zerg with nestea xp | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
Yup. Pretty much. Might not be first place, but taking top placements is more than enough to be satisfied. But if you know why the people are commenting like they you'd understand. After Sen it was pretty much an in house tourney. It's not like anyone else of note besides Sen showed up. If EG couldn't beat the no names who showed up at the tourney they might as well disband. | ||
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Pasado
United States142 Posts
On July 24 2011 14:12 ZeaL. wrote: Sen was like lol imma lose 2-0 first time around, beast the losers bracket and then 3-0 in the finals just to troll Idra. Scumbag Sen. Just kidding Sen is awesome. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On July 24 2011 14:40 Kraznaya wrote: After Sen it was pretty much an in house tourney. It's not like anyone else of note besides Sen showed up. If EG couldn't beat the no names who showed up at the tourney they might as well disband. lol haters gonna hate | ||
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MenSol[ZerO]
Canada1134 Posts
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
On July 24 2011 14:40 Quintum_ wrote: Wow interesting results, So Sen gets knocked down to the losers bracket being 0-2 by idra but then fights his way back to 3-0 idra in the finals, nice. Fan of both of them so i am sad to see one of them lose. Still cant say who is the best foreign zerg is from this, seeing as both sen and idra can take series off each other. Plus ZvZ is so bad that the tiniest mistake can cost you a game. I would say idra is still the better macro player while Sen deals with early aggression a lot better then idra. Why can they just combine there talents and make one super zerg player. Or at least another super zerg with nestea xp Sen has outlasted Idra at 4 consecutive tournaments (that they both participated in). I'd say Sen holds a small but definitive enough edge over Idra to be called the best foreign zerg at the moment. Not really a surprise since Sen ladders against Koreans and Idra ladders against North Americans. | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On July 24 2011 14:44 MenSol[ZerO] wrote: i think both sen and nerchio are above idra Oh yeah? Well Destiny and Haypro are better than Sen and Nerchio. My logic is infallible :D | ||
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Apollo_Shards
1210 Posts
On July 24 2011 14:40 Kraznaya wrote: After Sen it was pretty much an in house tourney. It's not like anyone else of note besides Sen showed up. If EG couldn't beat the no names who showed up at the tourney they might as well disband. Inka showed, but is that still kinda EG? | ||
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KonArtifex
United States2 Posts
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Quintum_
United States669 Posts
On July 24 2011 14:47 red4ce wrote: Sen has outlasted Idra at 4 consecutive tournaments (that they both participated in). I'd say Sen holds a small but definitive enough edge over Idra to be called the best foreign zerg at the moment. Not really a surprise since Sen ladders against Koreans and Idra ladders against North Americans. Ya, now that i think about i would have to agree, as much as i am an idra fan he is just so inconsistent. Some days idra is a beast like no other and other days he plays so bad. Sen allways has consistent play that is always high level giving him that small edge like you say. Plus he is not as easy to tilt as idra xp. I wonder how dimaga stacks up to idra and sen now, he was the other zerg that was constantly thrown in with idra and sen as the top three foreign zergs, I dont follow him but i know he is a high level player. | ||
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KillerPlague
United States1386 Posts
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JoeSchmoe
Canada2058 Posts
On July 24 2011 14:32 damod wrote: EG lost ? they were rated the highest in this tournament. idra 2nd axlave 3rd demuslim 4th lzgamer5th that a huge win imo. not really when the only big names in the tournament is EG and Sen. Sen is a fucking beast. People don't give this guy enough credit. | ||
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