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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
On June 30 2011 16:15 KonohaFlash wrote: GSTL doesn't prove shit, it's just a bunch of BO1's where you snipe/cheese/luck most of the time. Real skill is shown in these single leagues and all code b's and a's pretty much.I guess you haven't watched the GSTL and pay attention only to individual leagues. They're back to back GSTL champions. | ||
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ItsMeDomLee
Canada2732 Posts
It's actually Heisenberg. | ||
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Engore
United States1916 Posts
On June 30 2011 16:14 Kamais_Ookin wrote: Why is just about every member in code b and a then? Because GSL is hard if you didn't know. I really don't know how you come off saying they are aren't a very good team. They are one of the best teams in Korea. Just because they are having a rough stretch doesn't make them bad. It means they need to work to get out of this rut. Why is Jinro in code a right now? Why has he been losing everything? Because GSL is hard and you can't win everything. | ||
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Stanlot
United States5742 Posts
On June 30 2011 16:12 Erotheis wrote: SlayerS in a slump recently :/ One lost GSTL match against MVP and one failed GSL season does not a slumping team make. They'll bounce back. They've got hearts of champions. | ||
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Seditary
Australia7033 Posts
On June 30 2011 16:15 ItsMeDomLee wrote: On a seperate note. Where the heck have the mods been for the last week of LR threads? So much crap floating around  Been around enough to give me a warning a couple days ago for use of a meme lol. They get around to it eventually. | ||
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naventus
United States1339 Posts
It just feels like T expo builds have a huge amount of trouble against P allins that dodge the front (VR , Blink). On the flipside, P expo builds basically hold everything with FF except for execution coinflip against 111 allin. So not sure what to do to make T expos stable vs P. | ||
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Aruno
New Zealand748 Posts
Needs to be more engaged and not seem lost. | ||
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MechKing
United States3004 Posts
On June 30 2011 16:15 lariat wrote: Marauders with stim are not a very effective response...it really changes nothing in the dynamic, maybe allows the terran to pick off a couple stalkers but nothing significant. I think siege tanks are the answer. Makes it instantly costly to blink. Nah, marauders are really really good against stalkers lol. In case you didn't know, marauders don't die xD. Tassadar's build was really good against what Ryung was doing because ryung was so marine heavy. | ||
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Fighter
Korea (South)1531 Posts
On June 30 2011 16:13 ItsMeDomLee wrote: What's BM? The guy leaving the game late or the guy dancing his stalkers inside the base to rub it in after an allin? To be fair the stalker dance probably wasn't so much of a rub at winning as it was saying, "hey dude, games been over for a while and if ur gonna bm with Fantasy gg then *STALKER DANCE*" | ||
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KonohaFlash
Canada1590 Posts
On June 30 2011 16:17 Kamais_Ookin wrote: GSTL doesn't prove shit, it's just a bunch of BO1's where you snipe/cheese/luck most of the time. Real skill is shown in these single leagues and all code b's and a's pretty much. The skill they've shown in the GTSL was much better than what they showed in these Code A matches the past week. | ||
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rewired
Canada630 Posts
On June 30 2011 16:14 Kamais_Ookin wrote: Why is just about every member in code b and a then? I dunno? but I guess you must have a real good answer for their back to back titles in TEAM LEAGUE but hey whatever you have more posts than me so you must be the authority on whether a team or player is bad. | ||
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SniXSniPe
United States1938 Posts
On June 30 2011 16:17 naventus wrote: Anyone know what T expansion build beats this? It just feels like T expo builds have a huge amount of trouble against P allins that dodge the front (VR , Blink). On the flipside, P expo builds basically hold everything with FF except for execution coinflip against 111 allin. So not sure what to do to make T expos stable vs P. It's just how it is. Protoss is a race built around many strong all-ins. Heck, even a properly executed 4gate is really difficult to stop if not scouted properly (like hidden for instance... in base pylons etc). 16 CC is just to behind in tech to be solid to hold off all-ins. | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On June 30 2011 16:17 naventus wrote: Anyone know what T expansion build beats this? It just feels like T expo builds have a huge amount of trouble against P allins that dodge the front (VR , Blink). On the flipside, P expo builds basically hold everything with FF except for execution coinflip against 111 allin. So not sure what to do to make T expos stable vs P. I think Thorzain's 2 rax expo build would do decent. 1 naked 1 tech lab expand with 2 marauders and fast concuss? Works a lot for me but im only in diamond so idk | ||
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Scrandom
Canada2819 Posts
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Engore
United States1916 Posts
On June 30 2011 16:17 Aruno wrote: Unstable seems distracted. Needs to be more engaged and not seem lost. He has a tooth ache. Wolf tweeted about it. Poor @FXOUnstable casting with a really bad toothache; be nice! | ||
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
On June 30 2011 16:18 rewired wrote: Just because I have a lot of posts it doesn't mean anything. I'm open to reason and other's opinions.I dunno? but I guess you must have a real good answer for their back to back titles in TEAM LEAGUE but hey whatever you have more posts than me so you must be the authority on whether a team or player is bad. | ||
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Rayansaki
Portugal1266 Posts
On June 30 2011 16:15 KonohaFlash wrote: I guess you haven't watched the GSTL and pay attention only to individual leagues. They're back to back GSTL champions. I'll be the one to do the obvious and say they only won the second time because IM wasn't in. They skipped an ace in gstl2 vs them because they underestimated slayers, they wouldn't do it again. | ||
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KonohaFlash
Canada1590 Posts
On June 30 2011 16:17 naventus wrote: Anyone know what T expansion build beats this? It just feels like T expo builds have a huge amount of trouble against P allins that dodge the front (VR , Blink). On the flipside, P expo builds basically hold everything with FF except for execution coinflip against 111 allin. So not sure what to do to make T expos stable vs P. 1rax fe with marauder opening. I've defended nearly every protoss all-in/pressure with this opening. It's honestly the safest, since you'll have a decent marauder count and concussive shells. | ||
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MechKing
United States3004 Posts
On June 30 2011 16:17 naventus wrote: Anyone know what T expansion build beats this? It just feels like T expo builds have a huge amount of trouble against P allins that dodge the front (VR , Blink). On the flipside, P expo builds basically hold everything with FF except for execution coinflip against 111 allin. So not sure what to do to make T expos stable vs P. Depends on what the P is doing. A 2 rax with fast conc shell marauders into expo and then immediately add 2 more rax would've held that most likely. The problem was that Ryung went so marine heavy that he couldn't get enough marauders out in time. The bad about that build though is that it's kinda weak against stargate builds, so it basically comes down to scouting. | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On June 30 2011 16:17 Kamais_Ookin wrote: GSTL doesn't prove shit, it's just a bunch of BO1's where you snipe/cheese/luck most of the time. Real skill is shown in these single leagues and all code b's and a's pretty much. Are you referring the to Slayers team performance in the super tournament which was meant to be there big sc2 tournament where Slayers had the 2nd place finish? | ||
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